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trobb09 03-25-2008 10:10 AM

DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Wow, I just found out about the advantages of using custom ROMs on my Sprint Mogul so I'm trying to figure out which one I should use.

I saw they just released the Titan Kitchen so that's the ROM I was planning on using but I saw the difference in free memory (22.56MB free in DCD and 15.32MB free in Titan Kitchen)... From what I understand, DCD has implemented custom power management, dialers, etc. What specifically does the Titan Kitchen do that DCD's doesn't?

Can anyone guide me on which one to use and why?
(Stability is a plus!)

zaya 03-25-2008 10:15 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Best way to decide is to test each one you are interested in for a cpl of days. when I had my Mogul I ran DCDs roms mostly. However, on my Touch No2chems work is very very impressive and I only run his rom. Try em out and see what works for YOU. Thats what custom roms are about... YOU

Pocketdoc 03-25-2008 10:28 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
I also have tried both and like PPCKitchen's. FOR ME, this one has so much more to offer, and it includes sounds from The Muppets!

boggsie 03-25-2008 11:13 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocketdoc (Post 229423)
I also have tried both and I like PPCKitchen's ... it includes sounds from The Muppets!

the clincher, no doubt




just a funny, no disrespect intended :)

nxtech3 03-25-2008 11:44 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
I have used both DCDs and No2Chems ROMS and no disrespect to DCD, he is an awesome chef but i like/prefer No2Chems ROMS they are very stable and easy to add your own OEMs. Ive used No2Chems 6.1 build5048 and DogGuys Kitchen to make my own custom and i havent looked at another ROM build since

crwinger 03-25-2008 11:58 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
hey has anyone noticed whats the differences b/w the new build number No2Chem is using and the one based in the PPC kitchen as well as DCD?

InvincibleLiving 03-25-2008 12:12 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
imo no2chems work is the best available for the mogul right now... lighting fast, super stable, and he's always fine-tuning and revising the roms for optimum performance... add to that he also has a tendency to throw in his own exclusive apps and tweaks and there's just no equal. but with everything opinions vary so i'd suggest trying many different ones yourself.

eehrhard 03-25-2008 01:03 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
I think it comes down to personal preference. I have tried no2chems and ended up switching back to DCD's. I have absolutly zero problems with his latest release and really see no reason to even consider switching unless there is something major.

That said I really do respect no2chems hard work and that the majority of the people here prefer his roms while its probably flipped over at xda. They both are outstanding period.

klwheat 03-25-2008 01:10 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
I've had nothing but luck with both. I've used DCDs and no2chems during the last week of owning a 6800. I've also used multiple roms on my 6700. Both of these are great, fast, stable. I like the customizability of the kitchen more...but thats me. I recommend...same as above, try them both out...and see which one works for you.

Machinehead 03-25-2008 02:12 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eehrhard (Post 229551)
I think it comes down to personal preference. I have tried no2chems and ended up switching back to DCD's. I have absolutly zero problems with his latest release and really see no reason to even consider switching unless there is something major.

That said I really do respect no2chems hard work and that the majority of the people here prefer his roms while its probably flipped over at xda. They both are outstanding period.

Same here.

I am happy that no2chem finally upgraded to the 3.35 base though.

tharris297 03-25-2008 07:08 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
I actually love both ideas, but i've been working so much on tweaking my dcd roms and kitchen and stuff that I just find it hard to leave his work. I really do like the feel of the ppcgeeks kitchen, but dcd just works for me.

I am really interested in the way that the ppcgeeks kitchen seems to be so modular in that you can simply pop in a basekit (it seems) and just upgrade your kitchen at will.

Seems so bleeding edge and thats why I love that idea.

ticalthepimp 03-25-2008 10:01 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Maybe we should hold a steel cage death match....

I think since DCD doesn't really have a presence on here anymore(he's on xda for those who live in a cave)that he's not getting his fair share of street cred. NO RISRESPECT TO NO2, but DCD makes some SICK ROMS & he shouldn't be discounted by anyone because he lives mainly on xda & NO2 lives here. I have used both NO2 & DCD & both are great chefs, IMHO, the best 2 around BY FAR. Like other people have said, it basically comes down to what YOU like. I mean it's YOUR phone so make it yours. My advice is to try them both, I mean once you understand how to flash your phone it's no big deal to switch between them until you find what suits you best.

paravis 03-26-2008 12:18 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ticalthepimp (Post 230153)
Maybe we should hold a steel cage death match....

I think since DCD doesn't really have a presence on here anymore(he's on xda for those who live in a cave)that he's not getting his fair share of street cred. NO RISRESPECT TO NO2, but DCD makes some SICK ROMS & he shouldn't be discounted by anyone because he lives mainly on xda & NO2 lives here. I have used both NO2 & DCD & both are great chefs, IMHO, the best 2 around BY FAR. Like other people have said, it basically comes down to what YOU like. I mean it's YOUR phone so make it yours. My advice is to try them both, I mean once you understand how to flash your phone it's no big deal to switch between them until you find what suits you best.

(kitchens aside)

DCD,s roms are the cleanest custom titan roms around. Which does not necessarily mean they are the best per say (for some people they are). They are stripped down to the very core. This is deal for people who want that (der :P).

No2chem's are clean as well, but he offers a lot of extra tools built in.

Both pretty much apply the same kind of performance tweaks and general customization to their base roms. So it comes down to:

Wants some extra tools?
or
Want it as clean as can be?

Other than that, the differences are neglible. Me? I used to flash strictly DCD. But eventually once no2chem created all these awesome tools, I switched over.

So IMO there's really no need to try and analyze them as individuals and base your opinions of them on their reputations or popularity. Just look at the roms and your specific needs and wants. Then choose accordingly. Thats it!

my 2 cents

(keep up the good work no2chem)

Alpine- 03-26-2008 12:50 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Whats the deal with the new ppcgeeks kitchen? You just drop an OEM in or what? I dont get it or how it works. I'm still relatively new to the PPC world and custom roms, etc.

buck1623 03-27-2008 02:02 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
well u take one of the two mentioned creators builds, toss it in the kitchen, open the kitchen up and pick what extras you want add in the rom, then update the phone from the kitchen package... i personally use no2 because before i could make my own custom roms, i would use peoples like Nex, and i wouldnt have a problem with my phone functioning at all....

NexVision 03-27-2008 02:17 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
You guys realize the person who started the thread hasnt even posted again so obviously he was just making a thread to make it.

puff 03-27-2008 02:58 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trobb09
Wow, I just found out about the advantages of using custom ROMs on my Sprint Mogul so I'm trying to figure out which one I should use.

I saw they just released the Titan Kitchen so that's the ROM I was planning on using but I saw the difference in free memory (22.56MB free in DCD and 15.32MB free in Titan Kitchen)... From what I understand, DCD has implemented custom power management, dialers, etc. What specifically does the Titan Kitchen do that DCD's doesn't?

Can anyone guide me on which one to use and why?
(Stability is a plus!)

Actually depending on what all you include yourself in the kichen, your ROM could be closer to the 20MB free memory, unless of course you want to pack in as much as you can which i think most user end up doing, of course i know i do!!!

correct me if i'm wrong, but isnt there also a DCD Kitchen somewhere @ XDA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NexVision
You guys realize the person who started the thread hasnt even posted again so obviously he was just making a thread to make it.

trobb09, this is your queue to respond

ticalthepimp 03-27-2008 09:12 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NexVision (Post 231625)
You guys realize the person who started the thread hasnt even posted again so obviously he was just making a thread to make it.

Then we should definitely have s steel cage death match with him against DCD AND NO2. ;-)

NexVision 03-27-2008 09:21 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ticalthepimp (Post 231767)
Then we should definitely have s steel cage death match with him against DCD AND NO2. ;-)

Yeah cause that makes sense :/

qbunnie 03-27-2008 09:26 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trobb09 (Post 229402)
I saw the difference in free memory (22.56MB free in DCD and 15.32MB free in Titan Kitchen)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by naigaboy (Post 227480)
(Please Note these screenshots are from a cooked rom with many OEMs added, so Memory stats will vary)

I just wanted to clarify.
I got about 22 mb on boot from a fresh install of no2chem's, I believe they are comparable in that sense. You can make No2Chem's as clean as you like with the Titan kitchen. The only real difference I saw is that DCD is still having some issues with storage card encryption, if that is important to you. Still, no offense to DCD and his accomplishments, but the PPCkitchen does have more built in options. But in all honesty, both DCD and No2Chem are probably the best chefs for the mogul, and you can't really go wrong with either.

trobb09 03-27-2008 10:32 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Ha sorry people, I'm just learning and reading! This weekend, my project is to flash for the first time to a custom ROM! Thanks for all the replies, I've learned a lot over the past week and I can't wait to actually see how my phone turns out!

I'm leaning towards DCD's as of now but who knows, that might change before I actually go and flash..

ticalthepimp 03-27-2008 02:49 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NexVision (Post 231772)
Yeah cause that makes sense :/

Dude it's just a joke....

Hidavi 04-22-2008 05:01 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
DCD's is a bit unresponsive sometimes. I don't want to go to No2Chem and see that its the same thing and have to reinstall the 20 things I installed and put back all my settings...

ggaeta 04-22-2008 06:30 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
NexVision what is included on your ROM build?

I AM STUPID SORRY FOR THE ??? I SUCK A SEARCHING

rickyrecaro 04-22-2008 06:53 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
quick question?? i running dcd and this was my first flashing (and im using sprint update) once run a rom. how do you flash the the next. do i have to run the unlocker and the sprint update all over with the new rom of my choice

puff 04-22-2008 07:55 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyrecaro (Post 256973)
quick question?? i running dcd and this was my first flashing (and im using sprint update) once run a rom. how do you flash the the next. do i have to run the unlocker and the sprint update all over with the new rom of my choice

i recommend a brief read on the "no2chem kitchen thread"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 256866)
Personally, I do prefer No2Chem over DCD's roms. DCDs seem to have quite a few bugs. I highly recommend checking out 5060 build, it is probably the most stable Mogul build I have ever used.

thought this quote should be included here :mrgreen:

Logs 04-22-2008 08:33 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
I've used No2Chem's roms quite a bit including his latest, but in the end I always go back to DCD's. While they both have advantages, I find No2Chem's roms to be a bit snappier than DCD's, but the cost is that they idle with about 4-5mb less ram than DCD's do.

After a day of use, I can usually get DCD's to still rock 19mb of memory free, where as No2Chems quickly fall to 14mb with the same apps installed.

All preference, but since the mogul already suffers in the RAM department, I try to maintain every bit that I can.

RobDFW 04-22-2008 09:26 PM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyrecaro (Post 256973)
quick question?? i running dcd and this was my first flashing (and im using sprint update) once run a rom. how do you flash the the next. do i have to run the unlocker and the sprint update all over with the new rom of my choice


No, you do not have to run the unlocker or sprint update first if you want to flash another ROM. Just flash your new ROM.

brushrop03 04-23-2008 07:51 AM

Re: DCD vs. No2Chem
 
I've used both roms. I cooked them both in PPCKitchen. Wasn't much of a memory difference if any if I remember correctly. It depends on what you throw into your rom. I'm using No2Chem right now. It just worked out better for me. DCD has great roms though. I was using his prior to no2chem.


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