Or they are a quitter and jumped ship after messing up the install. :)

Well I'd argue that if you never managed to figure out the install, you never really upgraded. ;)

where can i get the old rom 2.13?

I don't think there was a 2.13, but you can download the most current OEM ROM here....

http://www.america.htc.com/support/m...downloads.html

i ment the old radio rom 2.13

I just had sprint do an "HLR reload" which is said to fix roaming problems (which I do have inspite of some post where I said otherwise). Instead it broke everything.. MDN and MSID are fine. Sprint could find nothing wrong and treid a few resets. I downgraded to 2.17 and still the same problem. I can dial *2 but everyhitng else disconnects instantly and no data. Sprint tried to help but eventually told me (I was upfront with them) that 2.17 is an upgrade rom and that it doens't overwrite everyhting. they suggested downgrading to the original rom. Can anyone confirm this? If this is true.. downgrading might not actually give you a pristine 2.17 rom.

also I just checkd every single setting in my EPST settings against my touch. Everything matches except the phone numbers and the scurity entry. My userneame did get mangled... I wonder if the password isn't also.. but this shouldn't affect the phone I wouldn't think. Anyway... that's probably for another thread.

I am still holding on to the latest one. I will wait for the official release which will likely have some the same bugs in it. Time will be the teller.

Same here. I'm not going to play around with leaked BETAs and brick my phone. I've heard horror stories (like the one in the post not too far up the page) of older 2.17s not working like they originally did. So until an OFFICIAL version is released, I'm playing it safe.

ive havent had anyproblems with the new unofficial rom

Bricking the phone is kind of hard to do unless you slumber into idiot mode during the flash update. But I did flash back to 2.17 because of a bug which was very annoying. No matter what I set the backlight settings to the device kept shutting off after about 5 seconds which made it a nightmare using the GPS. And all this talk about REv A speeds baffles me, because a basic specidied server settings like openDNS are just as fast as REVA. In fact now that I am back to 2.17 i really dont see a difference at all in connection and data speeds.