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gTen 03-17-2011 08:39 PM
Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Found this..checking if its valid from other sources while we all go crazy..:P

And am I blind or does it say "add Sprint ID" O.o????!??!

Quote:
Action Required: 3/21/11 Software Updates: Samsung Epic, Galaxy Tab, & Transform
Effective Monday, 3/21/11, these software updates will be available through Google Over-the-Air (OTA). All these devices will recognize a software update is required and will prompt the customer. See the device specific documents at ISC > Quick Links > Software Updates for required actions and associated screen shots. These device specific documents also include FAQs on how to use Sprint ID on the Epic and Tab. Other details:

Samsung Epic Upgrading to EC05

Update will be pushed to customers over a 4-day period
OTA duration time = 10-20 minutes; install time = 8-10 minutes
After the update completes, verify the new software version (Menu > Settings > About Phone)
Enhancements/fixes: upgrade to Android 2.2.1 (Froyo), add Sprint ID, install apps to external storage, improved Bluetooth device support, Bluetooth voice dialing, Flash Player 10.1, GPS enhancements improved OS performance.
Samsung Galaxy Tab Upgrading to EB28

Update will be pushed to customers over a 4-day period
After the update completes, verify the new software version (Menu > Settings > About My Galaxy Tab)
Enhancements/fixes: adding Sprint ID, adding DSA to check usage
Samsung Transform Upgrading to EB28

Update will be pushed to customers over a 4-day period
If a customer doesn�t initiate the update when prompted, the customer can install it manually after 3/24/11 (Menu > Settings > About Phone > System Updates > Update Android)
After the update completes, verify the new software version (Menu > Settings > About Phone)
Enhancements/fixes: upgrade to Android 2.2 (Froyo), addition of Swype, Sprint Zone 2.5, Sprint ID activation improvements, Google Syncing errors, landscape mode issues on Home Screen, Search shortcut key, Sprint 3G mobile Hot Spot, updating from version DI01 to DI11 with Bluetooth on.
Note: All software updates are subject to change.
Update: There is a screenshot:

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsun...print-march-21

shane6374 03-17-2011 09:40 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2070028)
Found this..checking if its valid from other sources while we all go crazy..:P

And am I blind or does it say "add Sprint ID" O.o????!??!



Update: There is a screenshot:

Samsung Epic, Galaxy Tab, and Transform OTA's coming from Sprint March 21 | Android Central
Damn, I thought it would be EC26.

masetas 03-17-2011 09:46 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
It does say add sprint ID. WTF please tell me this is something we can either deny to install when getting the update or is something we can remove.

gTen 03-17-2011 10:01 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by masetas (Post 2070052)
It does say add sprint ID. WTF please tell me this is something we can either deny to install when getting the update or is something we can remove.
The good news is we can remove it..the bad news is its extra bloat that may make updating to say Gingerbread more painful..

masetas 03-17-2011 10:22 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
im sure the developers which do a great job will find a way to remove this bloatware heck they were able to remove the carrier IQ mess.

gTen 03-17-2011 10:53 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by masetas (Post 2070068)
im sure the developers which do a great job will find a way to remove this bloatware heck they were able to remove the carrier IQ mess.
Removing it is not a problem..the problem is the more bloat is added to the device, the longer it takes the manufacturer/sprint to release updates...as they gotta make sure the bloat still works properly :/

pringlet 03-18-2011 12:18 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Sounds to me like Sprint ID is crapware/bloatware. Hopefully it's an apk that can be removed SDX Stock App.

Link to a review of Sprint ID
Sprint ID for Android smartphones (review) | CTIA 2011 - CNET Reviews

gTen 03-18-2011 12:57 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pringlet (Post 2070117)
Sounds to me like Sprint ID is crapware/bloatware. Hopefully it's an apk that can be removed SDX Stock App.

Link to a review of Sprint ID
Sprint ID for Android smartphones (review) | CTIA 2011 - CNET Reviews
Well Sprint ID is nice for those that dont know how to root or etc...but the problem is Sprint ID is built into the system..not optional...so updates are delayed by it :/..similar to a custom UI...

josidhe 03-18-2011 03:05 AM
My impression of SID isn't so much as a sense/twiz/blur desktop replacement as it is an 'experience' packager. If your phone is primarily social, a particular configuration and collection of apps can come all at once at you. Likewise if you travel, work business, etc.

It definitely sounds potentially less bloaty than other crap we see in the Android world, and if I had to choose between motoblur and SID, well hell.

At some point we have to realize that pure AOSP is never going to be the norm without enforcement from Google, and the best we can do is support the least boggish carrier additions, cuz blanket whining won't accomplish a dang thing.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

gTen 03-18-2011 03:20 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by josidhe (Post 2070145)
My impression of SID isn't so much as a sense/twiz/blur desktop replacement as it is an 'experience' packager. If your phone is primarily social, a particular configuration and collection of apps can come all at once at you. Likewise if you travel, work business, etc.

It definitely sounds potentially less bloaty than other crap we see in the Android world, and if I had to choose between motoblur and SID, well hell.

At some point we have to realize that pure AOSP is never going to be the norm without enforcement from Google, and the best we can do is support the least boggish carrier additions, cuz blanket whining won't accomplish a dang thing.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
Yes its not a replacement..its a themer thing...as stated its nice for average users..for us we can load up our own themes/profiles..

Truthfully Intercept/Moment/Transform have ASOP launcher..

The problem here is whe they say work on Gingerbread for our phones..we will get delays because they have to make sure both TW and SprintID work..thats extra work...thus delays..:/

flyers2114 03-18-2011 10:54 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
If they do not incorporate the video lag fix...this will be a failed update....does not matter to me as the fix has been posted on xda of course....but if i was a stock user i would be pissed over that...

MrNybble 03-18-2011 11:19 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
<rant on>
Why can't Sprint just listen to it's customers? We want a stable phone with the latest software without spyware and bloatware. Maybe they will learn some day...nah as long as we keep paying money they will continue to treat their customers like mushrooms.
<rant off>

If there was a better cellular carrier I'd probably switch but they do seem to be the best of the worse...and the worse is pretty bad...IMHO

masetas 03-18-2011 02:23 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
This goes out to Sprint:

Sprint quit working on stuff like this which just adds bloatware (developers are just going to find a way to remove it anyways) and give us Gingerbread!!!!!! oh and better 4g coverage as well.

dsibarra72 03-19-2011 01:37 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
how will this update affect the eb13 users who did the manual update? will the ota update still happen or do we have to bring the phone back to 2.1?

gTen 03-19-2011 03:23 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsibarra72 (Post 2070661)
how will this update affect the eb13 users who did the manual update? will the ota update still happen or do we have to bring the phone back to 2.1?
chances are they will push OTA to both DI18 users and EB13 users..which one will get it first I am not sure..either way I'm guessing most of us will update via odin if there is any issue.

gorelow 03-19-2011 06:53 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
isnt the addition of bloatware to an os a hidden revenue for sprint. wouldnt that be incentive for them to not do anything about it?

gTen 03-19-2011 07:04 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gorelow (Post 2070742)
isnt the addition of bloatware to an os a hidden revenue for sprint. wouldnt that be incentive for them to not do anything about it?
Well its kinda simple..the Premium Data plan already includes some of the stuff they had bloat in..so Sprint ID helps them sell phones due to better user experience..at same time it gives "access" to content which they can charge you more for..

Sprint ID for the consumer is a good thing overall..it sucks for us who want releases the fastest possible.

Johnny.Bravo 03-19-2011 07:25 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2070745)
Well its kinda simple..the Premium Data plan already includes some of the stuff they had bloat in..so Sprint ID helps them sell phones due to better user experience..at same time it gives "access" to content which they can charge you more for..

Sprint ID for the consumer is a good thing overall..it sucks for us who want releases the fastest possible.
Its a good thing for those who are happy to just use the phone as it is. Globally, what percentage of Android users don't root and then customize their phones? I mean really, that's why I went with Android in the first place. I almost bought an iPhone 4 until I did a little research.

gTen 03-19-2011 07:38 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny.Bravo (Post 2070749)
Its a good thing for those who are happy to just use the phone as it is. Globally, what percentage of Android users don't root and then customize their phones? I mean really, that's why I went with Android in the first place. I almost bought an iPhone 4 until I did a little research.
Probably over 90%..as many of us there are and as vocal we are, we are still a minority...

revaaron 03-21-2011 09:10 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
so... where is it?
my phone is starting to slow up again on midnightrom 4.1.
I want this new rom before I flash again.

theredmonkey 03-21-2011 12:21 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by josidhe (Post 2070145)
My impression of SID isn't so much as a sense/twiz/blur desktop replacement as it is an 'experience' packager. If your phone is primarily social, a particular configuration and collection of apps can come all at once at you. Likewise if you travel, work business, etc.

It definitely sounds potentially less bloaty than other crap we see in the Android world, and if I had to choose between motoblur and SID, well hell.

At some point we have to realize that pure AOSP is never going to be the norm without enforcement from Google, and the best we can do is support the least boggish carrier additions, cuz blanket whining won't accomplish a dang thing.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
It just bulk installs apps and changes icons. It not very complex when it comes down to it.

revaaron 03-21-2011 01:00 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
I'm waiting for this still... I refresh this forum over and over... waiting.

gTen 03-21-2011 01:13 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
lol..i so far dont see anything on samsungs site..eb13 i remember sprint ushed out like at 9 oclock afternoon :/

source is out though: http://opensource.samsung.com/

shane6374 03-21-2011 03:33 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Just noticed that EB13 was pulled sammys site. How long ago did that happen?

gTen 03-21-2011 03:56 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shane6374 (Post 2071584)
Just noticed that EB13 was pulled sammys site. How long ago did that happen?
I know its been gone for at least a week :/

revaaron 03-21-2011 08:55 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
7 minutes til 9pm.
from samsung: J/k!

ajac 03-21-2011 10:16 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
wish they would put the full flash on samsung.com again

uranidiot 03-23-2011 12:40 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by revaaron (Post 2071741)
7 minutes til 9pm.
from samsung: J/k!
still nothing wtf! lies...LIES!
YouTube - Fleetwood mac - Little lies

cruecifer 03-23-2011 01:02 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Guy over at androidcentral said he had since this morning

gTen 03-23-2011 01:44 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
some ppl are claiming it got delayed till the 24th due to issues :/..and sprint PRL is down..

revaaron 03-23-2011 10:31 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
it got delayed til infinity?

Jago 03-23-2011 11:08 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by revaaron (Post 2072586)
it got delayed til infinity?
yup!!

shane6374 03-23-2011 12:00 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Hopefully they do some work on the modem with this before they release it because if the modem that the bonsai team intercepted is what the Sprint release is going to be, this will be a failed release. 3G speeds are horrible!!

This modem reminds me of the stock TP2 rom. It just does not work!

flyers2114 03-23-2011 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shane6374 (Post 2072624)
Hopefully they do some work on the modem with this before they release it because if the modem that the bonsai team intercepted is what the Sprint release is going to be, this will be a failed release. 3G speeds are horrible!!

This modem reminds me of the stock TP2 rom. It just does not work!
I am hearing some mixed results...but for me my signal got way better and so has dl speeds..my bars at home went from 2 to 5...battery does seem worse though...but I just calibrated to see if it improves at all...

Sent from my SPH-D700

Hypnotic2010 03-23-2011 05:52 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epi...-download.html

gTen 03-23-2011 06:12 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Seems like DI18 people are getting it first? or does this work on EB13 as well?

got a chance to try it yet?

Hypnotic2010 03-23-2011 06:20 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2072818)
Seems like DI18 people are getting it first? or does this work on EB13 as well?

got a chance to try it yet?
Only for Di18 to Ec05 at this point.

gTen 03-23-2011 06:23 PM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypnotic2010 (Post 2072823)
Only for Di18 to Ec05 at this point.
Yeah I figured but was worth a shot :/


Well anyways now that means more custom roms will start rolling in :)

KaliS 03-24-2011 10:32 AM
Yesterday at 4:03pm, I got the followijg text message from Sprint:
"SprintFreeMsg: Coming soon! Sprint ID on your Epic. ID packs bundle apps, wallpapers, ringtones and more for your lifestyle. Learn more http://sprint.us/id1"

I'm on EB13, manual update from the samsung easy download method. Wondering if EC05 is coming OTA for me or if there will be another link from the samsung site or by google for a manual upgrade. Also, should we try going back to DI18 and wait?

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

revaaron 03-24-2011 10:34 AM
Re: Epic 4g EC05 - 3/21?!?1 Discussion
 
yeah, I got that txt too. the info at that link shows me nothing that I would ever want.


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