Samsung keeps up with it's long line of not upgrading phones!

[gTen]

Originally Posted by testacon

I guess I'm just annoyed that they called this a "flagship" phone. Flagship devices usually require more attention to detail then any other product they offer. I just don't see that happening with the Galaxy S line. I just see mass production with lousy/slow customer service. If this was just any other phone line that wasn't hyped so much or they didn't charge premium pricing for this phone, I can understand the delays, but for a company trying to repair their name in the cellular business, I'm just not that impressed.

As far as some of the other parts of the world getting Froyo first, how much longer was the phone released there, I thought Europe saw it in early June? So it took 6 months or so to get that out, that also means that they've been working on these issues for alot longer and we just keep waiting and waiting. This is the same phone spread across dozens of carriers, one GSM chipset variant and one CDMA chipset, probably most of the same internal parts though. At&T and TMobile updates should have been released the same time as Europe was and CDMA shortly afterwards.

They could have gave us 2.2 months ago and then 2.2.1 sometime later and more slowly like HTC is doing. But hey, I shouldn't complain they made sure they released their Samsung Media Hub in a timely fashion before fixing anything else, which just shows again what the company's priorities are.

**Late Addition**: Also they hyped the fact that Froyo was coming soon as a selling point, not 5 months or later as it seems to be taking. For one year life of sales before being replaced by say "The Galaxy 2", 5 months or longer shouldn't be considered as soon...

But at the same time you can look at it this way..SGS came out same time as the EVO..and yet international SGS has 2.2.1 and HTC doesn't..so wouldn't that put HTC behind?

The problem that happened was this..The hummingbird was made in late 2009, so the cellphone had a much shorter cycle then say an EVO that already 2 years old...(they planned t release it earlier but they had the wimax issues remember?)...

At the time SGS was released Froyo just came out...by the time Samsung started working on 2.2...2.2.1 came out..so they decided to go with 2.2.1..I'm not denying that Samsung needs to restructure somehow to make it work faster..but in this case it seems more circumstantial.

The AT&T and T-Mobile need to load it up with their bloatware...samsung already gave Froyo to all the carriers..its in their hands...

[revaaron]

if it's in sprint's hands... ugh... it took me how long to get win 6.5 on my tp2... 8 months? 9 months?

[testacon]

Originally Posted by gTen

But at the same time you can look at it this way..SGS came out same time as the EVO..and yet international SGS has 2.2.1 and HTC doesn't..so wouldn't that put HTC behind?

The problem that happened was this..The hummingbird was made in late 2009, so the cellphone had a much shorter cycle then say an EVO that already 2 years old...(they planned t release it earlier but they had the wimax issues remember?)...

At the time SGS was released Froyo just came out...by the time Samsung started working on 2.2...2.2.1 came out..so they decided to go with 2.2.1..I'm not denying that Samsung needs to restructure somehow to make it work faster..but in this case it seems more circumstantial.

The AT&T and T-Mobile need to load it up with their bloatware...samsung already gave Froyo to all the carriers..its in their hands...

HTC has more than one style of phone out currently, I wasn't aware that NONE of their phones had 2.2.1 as of yet both domestic or internationally. I wasn't aware of the time line about the EVO or how new the Hummingbird is, but they are doing themselves a disservice by dragging this one out.

I've been waiting and waiting for a new phone, almost 18 months now, nothing prior to the Epic was that appealing to warrant a new 2 year contract with Sprint, so I waited. Now the Epic is getting up there in age and it still hasn't been upgraded. What Samsung hasn't figured out yet, I guess, is that if a new phone with better specifications gets announced say dual core and has Froyo to start with or possibly Gingerbread, why will I care about the Epic and 2.2.1 anymore? I'd just wait for that release and then those are lost sales. I'd rather buy a phone that ships with 2.2 so that most likely you'll see Gingerbread or 3.0 rather then the hopes that the Epic will see either of those two.

Sprint and Samsung has got to remember that between Verizon, HTC and Apple there's going to be some stiff competition coming in January.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but what guarantee do we even have that Sprint will decide to pass the certification of build 2.2.1? What happens after Sprint or other carriers reject that the new build is still flawed and it goes back to Samsung? Is there a time limit Samsung has with returning a flawed build back to Sprint to test or could that as well take more time? If the newest beta is time lagging for example, wouldn't Samsung be required to then fix the lag issue before Sprint pushes the update out?

[youngblack]

Why is this even a thread? The facts are so old it's already played out. Samsung has already got the tab on 2.2 it's just a matter of time for those phones that have not rooted.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk while your mom was putting her clothes on.

[derfnoslen]

Originally Posted by youngblack

Why is this even a thread? The facts are so old it's already played out. Samsung has already got the tab on 2.2 it's just a matter of time for those phones that have not rooted.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk while your mom was putting her clothes on.

Time is the reason.... it's taking forever. Unless you want to root you are screwed.

[gTen]

Guys...I have a theory that it should come by christmas...why do I think that?

well remember in DK17 is an icon to get a "free gameloft game"..but when you click on it, all there is is paid games...

so then gameloft announced this:

Blog Gameloft » Blog Archive » Twitter Advent Calendar

aka they will be giving away free games...

I wonder if its somehow related :/

Hey I know its a long shot but so far its the only lead we have ever since "by end of november" disappeared :/

[youngblack]

Originally Posted by gTen

Guys...I have a theory that it should come by christmas...why do I think that?

well remember in DK17 is an icon to get a "free gameloft game"..but when you click on it, all there is is paid games...

so then gameloft announced this:

Blog Gameloft » Blog Archive » Twitter Advent Calendar

aka they will be giving away free games...

I wonder if its somehow related :/

Hey I know its a long shot but so far its the only lead we have ever since "by end of november" disappeared :/

Good try good lead good job. Post more when you have more convincing info.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk while your mom was putting her clothes on.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by youngblack

Good try good lead good job. Post more when you have more convincing info.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk while your mom was putting her clothes on.

Well thats why I said it was a "theory" lol..but either way DK28 seems soolid enough :/

[revaaron]

keep up the good work. Samsung pulls Froyo update for Bell's Vibrant after reports of fried internal storage -- Engadget

[revaaron]

holds breath.