NO TV out on Sprint Epic!!!!

[austin420]

sprint just put a tower in my house. you cant beat an airave!

[cocochannel]

that CDMA thing doesnt make sense. If it works on the EVO why woudn it work with the Epic?

[compuw22c]

Well, for starters it has to do with the Evo having that as an extra feature added to the system which I might add, only outputs certain video, not mirroring the entire display. What I believe most people here are concerned with is getting the composite out working (although I certainly wouldn't complain about HDMI) mainly because we KNOW it DOES work on both the gsm US and international galaxy s.

I understand it has to do with the system-on-chip for the gsm radio that includes this feature (for whatever reason its tied into the headphone jack and audio system), but the cdma system on chip doesn't. And I believe that's the issue. The fact that many phones that are designed as GSM and have awesome features just "thrown in" like composite video and fm radio, only to have those same features left out in the cdma variants. The FM radio too is part of this system-on-chip. And who is responsible for the system-on-chip? Good 'ole Qualcomm. This also raises another question. The Evo is an entirely Qualcomm system. CDMA radio, Qualcomm snapdragon CPU, and so maybe they decided to add the HDMI to make them look good, but intentionally left the analog video out feature off the Galaxy S in an effort to make the competitor look bad any way the can. The same way I believe Samsung refused to give screens to HTC for their recent smartphones (specifically Evo and Incredible, also Droid X) in an effort to try and take them on in the marketplace. The DIFFERENCE is Samsung (and thus we) paid for the technology (surely a high fee) only to have the bare minimum garbage Qualcomm was willing to supply. And although I have very little/no evidence to support it, I'm not entirely convinced Qualcomm hasn't had a hand in the recently discussed "150kbps upload cap" issue...(according to noobnl the RIL is a gsm to cdma wrapper rather than direct access: cyanogen mod 6 port to the epic 4g - CyanogenMod Forum )

[sndtubes]

Originally Posted by compuw22c

Well, for starters it has to do with the Evo having that as an extra feature added to the system which I might add, only outputs certain video, not mirroring the entire display. What I believe most people here are concerned with is getting the composite out working (although I certainly wouldn't complain about HDMI) mainly because we KNOW it DOES work on both the gsm US and international galaxy s.

I understand it has to do with the system-on-chip for the gsm radio that includes this feature (for whatever reason its tied into the headphone jack and audio system), but the cdma system on chip doesn't. And I believe that's the issue. The fact that many phones that are designed as GSM and have awesome features just "thrown in" like composite video and fm radio, only to have those same features left out in the cdma variants. The FM radio too is part of this system-on-chip. And who is responsible for the system-on-chip? Good 'ole Qualcomm. This also raises another question. The Evo is an entirely Qualcomm system. CDMA radio, Qualcomm snapdragon CPU, and so maybe they decided to add the HDMI to make them look good, but intentionally left the analog video out feature off the Galaxy S in an effort to make the competitor look bad any way the can. The same way I believe Samsung refused to give screens to HTC for their recent smartphones (specifically Evo and Incredible, also Droid X) in an effort to try and take them on in the marketplace. The DIFFERENCE is Samsung (and thus we) paid for the technology (surely a high fee) only to have the bare minimum garbage Qualcomm was willing to supply. And although I have very little/no evidence to support it, I'm not entirely convinced Qualcomm hasn't had a hand in the recently discussed "150kbps upload cap" issue...(according to noobnl the RIL is a gsm to cdma wrapper rather than direct access: cyanogen mod 6 port to the epic 4g - CyanogenMod Forum )

This sounds like there will be NO fix. Maybe I should buy an EVO instead. Will we have composite TV out with the upcoming WMG160? It is sort of unclear if it will or not.

[m4f1050]

**WARNING**

Do *NOT* buy the EPIC 4G TV Out cable from 1800mobiles.com they claim to be compatible with the EPIC 4G and it's *NOT* compatible and they will not refund all your money afterwards. I paid for both shippings (to me and return shipping) and they partially refunded my money, lost $15 in a 3 cable order.

[Hypnotic2010]

Originally Posted by m4f1050

**WARNING**

Do *NOT* buy the EPIC 4G TV Out cable from 1800mobiles.com they claim to be compatible with the EPIC 4G and it's *NOT* compatible and they will not refund all your money afterwards. I paid for both shippings (to me and return shipping) and they partially refunded my money, lost $15 in a 3 cable order.

No cable will work with an Epic. Epics tv out functionality is disabled. There is no current hack or mod that can enablle this feature to date. It has been attenpted on XDA with some progress, but not functional as of yet. Probably never..

[m4f1050]

Yeah, I was warming people not to buy the cable, they claim it does work and it doesnt.

[darren.wlsn1]

Originally Posted by m4f1050

**WARNING**

Do *NOT* buy the EPIC 4G TV Out cable from 1800mobiles.com they claim to be compatible with the EPIC 4G and it's *NOT* compatible and they will not refund all your money afterwards. I paid for both shippings (to me and return shipping) and they partially refunded my money, lost $15 in a 3 cable order.

like people said in your xda post goes here too, im just clueless why you would think epic had tv out to support the cables you bought. it takes 5 min of owning a epic or 5 min of reading to know it does not have it. these are cheaper? Amazon.com: TV Out Cable for Samsung Galaxy S: Epic 4G Fascinate Captivate Vibrant Omnia II, 3.5mm to RCA Composite: Electronics

[m4f1050]

Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1

like people said in your xda post goes here too, im just clueless why you would think epic had tv out to support the cables you bought. it takes 5 min of owning a epic or 5 min of reading to know it does not have it. these are cheaper? Amazon.com: TV Out Cable for Samsung Galaxy S: Epic 4G Fascinate Captivate Vibrant Omnia II, 3.5mm to RCA Composite: Electronics

Trust me, I have gotten replies thanking me for warning them (once again because there ARE warnings already) but If you do a Google search you WILL find people with "progress" on the TV Out on the EPIC, even though that failed there are still people out there misinformed and buying these cables still. Just trying to help here. I'll edit/delete the post if it's out of place, not my intention to threadjack or fill the thread with nonsense...

[Megabiteg]

Originally Posted by m4f1050

Trust me, I have gotten replies thanking me for warning them (once again because there ARE warnings already) but If you do a Google search you WILL find people with "progress" on the TV Out on the EPIC, even though that failed there are still people out there misinformed and buying these cables still. Just trying to help here. I'll edit/delete the post if it's out of place, not my intention to threadjack or fill the thread with nonsense...

Funny thing is that someone took a pic of the back of the Epic's box and it says it supports TV OUT... $ammy once again lieing to us.....

Sent from an Epic with 4G