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PPCGeeks boycott??
Apparently someone over at SU got mad at someone here and decided to start a boycott. Didn't get to far with that one:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=149659 Its from december but it wasn't that long ago |
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what a cry baby...Are you serious.
Im not sure why a guy with an iphone would be here in the first place. And I would agree the iphone is a status symbol. Similar to Escalades and Navigators. |
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I know who that is, I won't say the username.
That user was in different issues, but the one that caused the ban was that, after other users did not agree with him, he created another account to post on the same thread to give himself support. That's the gist of it... there were many other things. Anyway, I hope he is happy over at SU. If he really thinks that by posting a thread like that somewhere else he is going to hurt us, he is wrong. But everyone is entitled to their opinion... Oh well... the thread was dead as of 12/11/07 but someone made a post there today. If it's anyone from here, I'd just recommend and ask to let the thread die... that sends a stronger message by saying, "nobody cares what you think". Until today, that thread was active for exactly 1 day, so that should tell you enough ;) |
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He got 3 votes outta 20 and most of the people that voted didn't even know bout the site
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Haha. it's almost like advertising for ppcgeeks. (posts #13-14 or so) and everyone seems to be defending ppcgeeks. sucks for him
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Ah well its closed now anyway
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oh man, i remember that guy.....sheesh
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Maybe we should all boycott PPCGeeks too.
Damn what the heck would I do while i am sitting at the computer then? Nevermind... |
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I agree, everyone boycott PPCGeeks from 1:00 am CST to 12:59 am CST on March 32nd. Ok?
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What a loser... I'd be lost without this site.
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What a sheeple!
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I think, Don't feed the troll comes to mind!!!
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what a looser. just like some user said over @ SU, lets boycott the boycott
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I'm going to boycott all boycotts. i am going to do anything I want! Woo Hoo!
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We give users more than their fair share of freedom, to say whatever they like. As long as its not flaming. BUT... when you are told to stop, then stop. If not you get banned. Very simple.
Opinion-based threads can only go so far, because they are never settled and opinions are rarely changed. That's true on every Internet forum. I don't think you appreciate the responsibilities of a moderator, tbh. Knowing when to stop a conversation thats going downhill is not an easy call. |
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I think his point is valid. Certain mods end conversations at different points then others. It is confusing sometimes. Some mods let things slide then another will come and shut it down. If there was only one mod, users could get used to their style and follow it. However given the size of this site that is not possible and some discrepancies are bound to occur. But having an agreement between all mods and admin is crucial for a site this big. Things could be a little more transparent from mod to mod.
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well, not that its any of your business, but we do talk about these kinds of threads and decide, as a group, when/if to close them. The point at which a thread will be closed/deleted really depends on the users contributing to the thread. If there are constantly users interjecting meaningless posts and acting like Trolls (see how to behave on a forum thread in off-topic) then the thread will be closed asap. If the contributors are acting reasonably and not causing problems because of the thread, then we tend to keep it open for discussion.
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As a user, isn't how the site works part of our business. I don't want to tell you how to do your job, I do know what it is like to be a moderator. I understand that communication is happening but there seems to be a difference between different moderators. You are more conservative, whereas other mods are more likely to just shut stuff off from what I can tell. It also tends to change depending on the forum. I would assume that this site like most others has a staff only forum which is used to communicate such decisions. A site this big will never work as well as one with 1 or 2 mods. All I was saying is that in my opinion it could be a little more transparent from mod to mod in a perfect world, not likely to happen on a site this big.
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so wait wasnt that like months ago that he was banned? I remember that foolishness. and he's still so raw about it that he's making up boycott threads?!!? Classic.... i bet he's pissed at the mod who closed the boycott thread now as well....
bottom line wheter he felt he was right or wrong (and he was very wrong) when do you decide to make another screen name to co-sign your own posts? That's some multiple personality type stuff there! |
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As patmannyc said, we do not ban left and right, or just because we feel like it. I would be willing to bet we have one of the lowest banning rates as compared to other sites like this one. And even so, we issue temporary bans, and if after the ban the user still doesn't get it, a permanent ban is issued. The thread you are talking about remained open for a LONG time, we kept asking for feedback on how users felt the forum would be better ran since they were the ones complaining, not one single recommendation was made. Even after the thread was closed, a statement was made that we were open to feedback, but via PM from now on. As it was also said before, we are all human, just like you and all the other users, and we may miss something. That's what the Report Post button is for, in case a user feels we may have missed something. I don't feel because a user provides more tech assistance, has more posts, or has been here longer, he/she gets treated the same. As a matter of fact, these users, usually, know how to behave so they usually don't have actions by moderators taken against them, because there's nothing to take action against. You say you have/had threads saved to such an occasion like that thread, I feel that's very shady. Why not just send it to a moderator so that it can get fixed? That is what we asked for since the beginning. And by the way, I just re-read all 9 pages of the thread where you posted back then... there was only 1 link on all those pages where a user felt something was not fair, and I assure it was discussed among mods. You'll have to take my word for it. Keep this in mind, just because there's flaming in a thread, it does not mean it will be locked. If a thread is actually informative, the flame post will be dealt with so the thread can continue on. Quote:
Also, all us mods are different. What I think may be out of control now, another mod may feel it was out of control since the beginning. That is why we discuss A LOT behind scenes. In the end, I feel all the mods are contributing their time to make this community better. I hate to use this argument, but I thought it was funny when I saw that "how to behave in a forum" video in the Off Topic section... if you don't like how a site is ran, then move on. Finally, without pointing fingers but pointing them at the same time, has anyone noticed how after a certain disruptive users were dealt with the site went back to no issues? No threads complaining about mods being abusive? Heck, the amount of reported posts even went down. Just pointing it out... |
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I understand that you are not all online and that decisions cannot be made instantaneously. Sometimes this allows for a thread to continue longer than it should have. A site this big is going to have issues like this. It is up to the mods to handle it in the best possible way. You all do a good job at keeping things on topic and are not perfect. There is no way to be perfect. That however does not hide that some mods treat things different than others. Site rules and set punishments help keep things fair from mod to mod. I know site rules exist but I obviously have no knowledge of what punishments are. If they are not in place I would suggest making them, if they are, I would advise beefing them up and making sure all mods use them. Mods should be held just as accountable as users are. It is simply an observation I have made over the last month.
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Bottom line is if a mod closes a thread, it's within reason. I have rarely seen otherwise. And if you disobey a mod, you should be banned. If you disagree, suck it up, think about it, then get over it. It's not a fight you'll win anyway |
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Probably came out wrong on his post, but I can assure you that's what he meant |
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/\ I only know of one time, and it was when a thread was closed that we decided was the wrong decision. It happens. The thread was reopened an hour or so later.
Anything else you may be referring to I am not aware of. But regardless, I don't think anything seriously wrong has been done, and harping on it will make a bigger deal out of it then warranted. |
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I am officially boycotting this boycott thread. I will not return to post in it until it has been locked... that is all carry on.
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If there is somehting I'm not aware of feel free to PM me and fill me in. |
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What's with all the mod bashing? Sometimes I don't like when a thread I'm having fun in is shut down, but this is a PPC forum meant for discussing PPCs and software/hacks/mods for PPCs. If you are discussing other items, flaming, being annoying, etc. then there is a perfectly reasonable expectation that the thread will be closed. If it sometimes seems that one mod closes more threads than others, then it is possible that person is online more often or has been assigned the 'thread closing duties.'
Really, none of our lives are made any worse by the decisions any of the mods make. As a matter of fact, it is directly due to their diligence that PPCgeeks is such an enjoyable site to be a member of. I've been here for a long time. Not once have I thought 'That mod sucks so bad I want to leave.' Quite the opposite. Most of the time I think 'Man I'm glad a mod took care of that fiasco.' And, if you get upset with a mod, why make it public or keep a record of everything you feel they did wrong? Send them a PM to see if you can resolve it privately. If not, ask the mod you are having an issue with whether another mod could serve as an intermediate in your situation. If things are handled well on your part, I can assure you the mods here will do all they can to handle things well on their end. |
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i had a disagreement with that guy, and let me tell you he's narrow minded. i used to be on that site, and it was nothing but trouble makers trust me(all talk and don't know nothing about our phones). ppc geeks by far is the best cell phone site i have ever been on. this site has taught me a lot thank you guys very much peace. oh forgot about xda developers great site sorry lol!
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It definitely came out wrong. What you actually talk about is your business, the fact that you actually discuss it is more general knowledge. I would not expect you to post the info that you talk about on a specific user but saying that decisions are made by more than one mod is worthy of users knowing.
Moderators should be held just as accountable for their actions as the standard user. They may be less likely to break certain rules but are you saying they should be allowed to do it? I think not. A mod is nothing special, they were once a user and are now chosen to volunteer their time to help make the forums better. If they are making the forums worse, either by posts, abusing power, not using power etc. They should be held just as accountable. I have seen mods loose their job before, they are not invincible and some take the position too far. No one at this site seems to have that problem but I would argue that some mods are more strict than others. Having set rules for users and set punishments might help this. Also making sure that mods follow their rules from the admin is crucial. Feedback from the admin should be often, whether it be good job, or this could have been done better. That would help even out some of the discrepancies between mods. Nothing I have seen is really a big deal but it is slightly frustrating when one mod tells you something is ok, by leaving it open. And another mod comes and closes it later. Just annoying, nothing we can't all deal with. |
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Dear Goddbody,
You have received an infraction at PPCGeeks. Reason: Spammed Advertisements ------- please dont spam. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...679#post200679 we dont need that here. if you have any questions or feel you did nothing wrong, then dont hesitate to contact me or another moderator. have a good day. ------- This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire. All the best, PPCGeeks This is too funny!! Now I recieved an infraction point for spam advertisement today after voicing my opinion . As I recall it this is how it started out with ole dude who started the boycott ppcgeeks petition. I guess I am next on the chopping block. I think I can strongly defend me arguement at this point. For one I spoke to Wideawake before Christmas about developing a Noob site to help assist with the redundant questions that were being asked in the forum. I also created a forum for them over there to discuss issues. Noobs own place. Wide saw the site Pibe saw the site no points for the aledged spam ads. Now today some petty Mod who didnt like what I posted decides to check me out and decides to give me points for a website that has been up for months now. Now thats personal. So I'll be direct. Pibe and Patmannyc do a hell of a job moderating the rooms, but it's that childish and petty 2% that this very thread, Thread in question, and others that gives merit to the guys original arguement as well as my own. I think I rest my case. Drops mike walks off the stage....... |
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The biggest problem is that us users were attacked for voicing our opinions about the mods. That is the reason that this thread has not died. If the mods would have taken our opinions with a grain of salt then this thread would have died where it belongs. I think this is especially evident that the most prominent mod on the forum (Pibe38) simply quit posting. I'm sure he read everything as he usually reads everything, but he read the comments, understands them, and moves on. It is the mods that felt the need to defend themselves that kept us explaining our thoughts. I think this has reached and pointless end and should be closed. I'm sorry you didn't like our comments, but they are what they are, comments. Take them or leave them.
I'm staying out of the spam infraction but that does sound pointless if true. I would suggest the admin looking into it to make sure the mods did as they should have. Giving an infraction for a post months old is just dumb. |
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