For those about to defect to Droid (or android)
 

Stop and think about this.
I've searched frantically for the last few days, trying to find similar apps for the Droid. Since I was convinced that it was the best move.
Can't find any XM Radio app
Can't find any Groovefish
Can't find Kinoma Play
WM already has voice activated Bing with directions located by GPS
Wm already has turn by turn directions with Bing, Google maps, Amaze.
WM already has all the apps anyone would ever logically use.
WM already has Tellme voice activated search w/ GPS functionality.
WM already has SPB Mobile Shell with smooth touch controls and panels with widgets. Or if you prefer TF3D, or if you prefer, Titanium, or if you prefer Stock Omnia widgets.
So OK what do you get with Android?
Well, you don't get apps that give purpose to the OS. That being "Intents" which is supposed to link apps together seamlessly. Yes, there are apps that join contacts with maps,(WM does as well) maps with search, (WM does as well) Really nothing stunning.
What you have is just another OS like any other with apps that mostly stand alone rather than take advantage of the OS platform.
So for any Omnia users, think twice. I was convinced I was jumping ship, I'm not so sure now.

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i haven't really considered switching (most because i'm nowhere near my upgrade) but just looking at some of the screenshots i can say that i like the interface better. it seems more polished and the majority of the apps i've seen are the same way.

just my $.02

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With the investment I have in s/w so far and that I have customized what I need and prefer, a change to a new OS would seem premature for me. The new devices for the new OS appear to be a nice line-up but wasn't that the case when the (gulp) Treo 700W came out too? Looks like I will wait for more experiences from others on the Android OS and devices before I consider if this will be a better alternative to WM devices.

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this was on my list but now reading about it, just seems like its overrated. a few places say its the best Phone on VZW now and it beats out the HTC Droid but I have narrowed my choices to TP2(which I keep reading that its kind of slow and buggy so thats out of the picture) Storm 2 or Omnia 2

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After this Droid launch tomorrow (I'm guessing within a couple weeks) Omnia 2 will be out. Twice the battery life of any smartphone yet produced. Amazing screen. Weighs almost the same as our current Omnias. As for the HTC Touch Pro 2, it is truly a nice phone BUT it's a heavy dog and thick as a brick. The coolness of the keyboard wears off after about 3 days. I returned mine after 2 weeks. I'm waiting to hear from real users about the Droid(s). Until then, I'm still hanging on for Omnia 2.

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personally, i think winmo will always be better. look at the sheer size of the developer community. i belong to three different websites devoted entirlely to the hacking winmo. thats something that will take android a long time to be able to say. just my opinion, of course.

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you're right about the mass quantities backing winmo but that took YEARS to build. the android (and anything else that has to do with google) community is growing rapidly and not looking back. i'm still going to stick with winmo but this new phone has me (almost) back on the market.

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hype and pretty much it.

I'll wait for version 3 or maybe 4.

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Android to me is just a modern version of Windows Mobile, very open and customizable in many different ways, but the aesthetics and visuals just look that much nicer and it operates more smoothly. I'd also think the development would be easier because the SDK is free and you don't need an expensive version of MS Visual Studio to create programs for it (unless you write in unmanaged code which is more time consuming). Plus it's got stellar Gmail/Google service integration, obviously. Other than that, WM works very well for me and there's no reason to change out. I'd rather wait until my upgrade in 2011 sometime and hop on the LTE bandwagon.

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Well, I got my Droid this morning and I'm really liking it so far :D Obviously my judgement can't be trusted at this point (everything new is awesome), but during the next 30 days I'm going to decide on whether I should keep it or not. After getting my Omnia to near perfection we'll have to see if this measures up. As soon as I got it all I did was type in my Gmail account and it synced up my e-mail, contacts, and calendar flawlessly. Unfortunately I can't say the same about the Omnia when I first got it. Also, I really like how they came out with a multimedia dock, it's sitting in there right now and makes a sweet clock/mp3 player/picture viewer/alarm clock while it's charging.

I'll probably start a post later on with a detailed comparison of the Omnia and the Droid once I get a better feel for things.

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Believe the hype my friends. I too love winmo and have pretty much flashed and customized my omnia to no end. But let me tell you, the Droid is pretty amazing. Right out of the box you know this phone is gonna blow your mind. Easy email setup, full customization possibilities just as winmo. Plugged in to pc, mounted, and synced up music library in minutes. Tested google nav on the way home, AMAZING. The nav blows away every gps app I've ever tried. Browser with webkit engine, forget about it, loads up in seconds. Apps and more apps. I can go on and on. Best bet is to find a friend who has one or get over to the vzw store and test out this beast. It's gonna keep me pleasantly occupied, at least until the Omnia2 drops.

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I picked up a Droid today also. Must say that I like it so far. Much nicer then I expected and the sound it puts out is simply awesome. I have 30 days to decide if I want to give it back but right now I'm pretty happy with it.

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I have fought off the urge/compulsion/need awaiting the Omnia2 but I am soooooo tempted. I talked to someone yesterday who says the Droid feels about the same thickness as the omnia in your hand but a little heavier. I usually carry my Omnia in my shirt pocket. Will the Droid tear off my pocket or do you think it's reasonably light?

Thanks.

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The Droid is very close to the same size as the Omnia. Main difference is in weight. I don't think it will rip your pocket off but I do think you will notice a bit more pull to it.

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My friends has had a t-mobile G1 since the release date and well after about a year of playing "anything you can do I can do too" i'm over Android. But i do still have till January to decide if i want to hack something new, get an O2 or jump ship and goto an HTC lol

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Thanks! I bit the bullet and got a Droid this afternoon. It's a great size. My wife upgraded her HTV Vogue to the HTC Droid Eris. Also a really cool phone.

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Sorry if this seems like too personal a question, but how do so many of you guys upgrade phones so quickly? The Omnia hasnt even been out two years? Are you all paying full price? I was thinking, I am part of a family plan with my mom, my two brothers, and my 9 year old son, it would be just 9.99 a month to add a new line. Could I do that to be able to get a new phone at upgrade price, and just suck up the 9.99 extra a month for two years? Since I wouldnt be using my Omnia anymore, I would cancel the 30 dollar data plan on the line I have now, since I know I would have to add it to whatever new phone I get. Am I calculating all this correctly, or living in lala land lol

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well i got my i910(got it from ebay brand new for 295) in feb of 09 comin from a xv6700. i usually upgrade my phones every year or so. but im at my 10 month upgrade point at VZW so im just tryin to hold in for the O2.

as far as the upgrade. you can add the line for 9.99 BUT that wont be the monthly price for the 2 years. you will have to pay for the plan you choose. which is 39.99(the lowest). so really i dont think its going to be worth it in my opinion for your situation. just try and wait off for the update plan. if your on a 1 year contract, the upgrade date is after 10 months where you start getting discounts. if your on 2 years its after 20 months.(at least thats what it is for me)

if you plan on upgrading your phone keep the data plan if you want to use it on the new phone

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Thanks for the response. How are you able to get upgrade pricing every year? Is that basically by paying a little bit more for your phone up front, but choosing a 1 year contract for the phone instead of 2 year?

Im confused about the 39.99 minimum plan though. We share all our minutes, which is why I thought the 9.99 for another line to share those minutes came in. Isnt that what the 9.99 means? Why would I have to get a minute plan if Im paying the 9.99 to use the minutes that my main phone is paying for? Or am I misunderstanding the whole thing?

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sorry the 39.99 minimum was for a single line. for family, depending how you set it up. im guessing its all split up. so due to my misunderstanding you could add the line for 9.99 and just pay the little portion that the "non user" line would have.. for example


for example if your plan is 60 you would split it

mom: 9.99
brother 1: 9.99
brother 2: 9.99
son: 9.99
you: 9.99
non-user:9.99


so it would most likely be whatever you pay now + your son + the fake user.


so yes you can add the extra line. when you add the line and get a new phone you might have to switch it online. so you get the new phone and the fake user will have the i910

as far as upgrade goes i guess it varies per client. as i was sayin for me they said i could upgrade on Nov 1st since i been a customer for 10 months. the catch is if i want to get the phone real cheap i would have to sign 2 years(which i dont mind) im guessin the O2 will only cost me 199.99 on 2 years which is great. if i go month to month they will make me pay full price which im sure will be close to 6 or 7 hundred. then in Sept 2010 they said i could upgrade again because of the every 2 program, which is pretty cool. so i guess it depends.

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well played with it in 2 different stores, talked to a bunch of sales rep who really weren't trained and gave pat answers that prooved it. When I asked can it sync with Oulook, the response was absolutely. When asked how, the mumbled stuff. Bottom line, if you are usign outlook with pop and not an exchange server, there is nothing out there like windows mobile/active sync. You need some 3rd party software, and gmail to sync at best contacts and calendars only, and I'm not sure that works 100%. yes its done wirelessly which is great, but there are severe limitations. I've checked on android forums and others as well, seems to be a consistant issue and no one is sure why. Looks like there are some people out there working on complete solutions, so beware....or tell me I'm wrong.

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you can only have 5 lines on a family plan.
i added a 5th line for my Dare about midway through a contract so i have a line come up every year. its worth the $9.99 a month and have a spare i use for calling folks i dont want to know my number and also for family members who need a phone for a brief time instead of buying a contract or prepay on a tightly fixed income

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You can add a line then have the new phone transferred over to your current line. Then activate an older feature phone on the new line. That's what I did for this go around and I gave the feature phone to my older son (needless to say he is a happy camper :) ).

This worked best for me as I don't loose my phone number and I get the low price for the Droid.

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Google will sync with Outlook. No third party software needed.

http://www.google.com/googlecalendar/new.html

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^^^ good stuff BW

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Is there any truth with the storage of apps on the driod? I heard that programs can only be installed on the internal RAM (512?) and not the 16 GB storage, the storage is only for the movies and Mp3s. Also without the sling player android is a big no no for me, I'd give it another year to mature and it might become a winner.

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This is correct. Most apps though are under a MB and the ones that are larger can usually store the data on the storage card. In the end you can put a whole lot on your phone before you run in to any problems.

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"According to the iphoneblog, Apple is making a smaller, CDMA compatible “World Phone” for Verizon.It is supposed to arrive Q3 of 2010, but may be later."

I might have to wait on my upgrade even longer...

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a little to late for that. by that time HTC Leo, HTC Dragon, HTC Passion, HTC Desire and O2 will be out

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Thanks guys for all the answers. Arggh, I just realized we already have 5 lines on our plan, so I guess that extra line is out of the question. Darn it! The weird thing is that I have heard from several sources that the main line on a family plan is entitled to an upgrade once a year, but when I checked the main line on My Verizon, it just shows the New Every Two Status, and when I pretended to upgrade the phone through the site, it gave me no discount option. A year would have passed in August 2009 on that line. Also, I remember my mom getting a letter from Verizon around August stating that she can upgrade at discount pricing, but we didnt pay attention to it at that time. I guess if I call I have a feeling they will most likely say that I can upgrade that line, I just wish they would show it online so I wouldnt have to call customer service.

Anyway, Im making such a big deal about all this when I cant even really afford to spend 200 bucks anyway, with christmas coming up and my son's christmas list being about a mile long lol. I am just SO frustrated at not being able to have a newer phone, it's an obsession for me.

By the way, I know alot of people already know this, but if you choose a 1 year contract with upgrade pricing, the Droid only goes up by like 30 bucks. For 30 bucks more, you can upgrade at discount pricing in a year, and we all know in a year we are going to be obsessing over something new. If I were able to upgrade right now, I would definitely pay the 230 to be able to upgrade again in 10 months

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NE2 and annual upgrade are entirely different. after a year on a 2 year contract the main line can get new line type price. NE2 just takes additional $50 off

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I know they are different, I just hate that all they show you online is NE2. It never shows just regular upgrade availability on it like on the other lines. Maybe it's not on all accounts, I havent heard of anyone having this problem, I dont know why just ours has it

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With a plan like your Solange, your main line may be on the VIP program--eligible for upgrades after a year AND a $50 discount off promo pricing. Call to find out.

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Sorry if this is being repetitive, but just to clear any doubt up: you can actually upgrade yearly on any Verizon plan. You get the advertised pricing, but you have to pay a $20 upgrade fee. If you wait for two years there's no upgrade fee, and if you are the main line (or only line) then you get an additional $50 off (although Verizon has dropped it to $30 if you have a newer contract, at least that's what the rep told me). Also, you can only do the yearly upgrade through Verizon (in-store or online), which I learned when I tried to get my Droid from Best Buy to avoid the mail-in rebate junk.

Also, about Android only allowing you to install apps to the internal memory: yes, it is true, but as Blazingwolf mentioned most apps are really small (MUCH smaller on average than Windows Mobile apps). I've already installed a ton of apps/games on my phone and I've only used around 80MB of storage, so I really don't see it being a problem. And just for clarification, although it does have 512MB of storage you can only use about 256MB of that for storing apps. Once again, I really don't think it's going to be a problem.

The only thing this phone is lacking is...wait...ummmmmm...still thinking...uhhhhh...well, I can't think of anything :D Hopefully it stays that way!

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for those of us trying to squeeze all our apps to 97mb 256 mb is gonna take some gettin used to haha

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That link is to sync Outlook with Google...JUST CALENDAR. So, question is, how do you get Outlook calendar, contacts, tasks, notes, favorites etc. from Outlook TO Android? Do not believe its there yet though I'm sure people are workign on it. Just seems like unless you have exhange, there is no equivalent for windows mobile/active sync

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Every year??? Are you serious? WTF, Ive been suffering for so long for nothing lol? I guess it's their unofficial policy, and it helps them by locking you in another two years. Interesting, thank you Rolijen and Nerdherd for the info!

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By the way, I was just checking the resale value of the Omnia on ebay, and it is measely lol. You'd be lucky to get 100 bucks for it! Oh well, that's half the price of a Droid :)

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Thats truly sad. I just sold my sisters Glyde on ebay for $120 and i sold my glyde in January when i got the omnia for over $200

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It's a better phone, plain and simple. All other bells/whistles/apps aside. The phone is better.