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Adrynalyne 07-23-2009 01:39 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Im in an area that has excellent signal, and my phone is idle a lot.

Mind you, browsing and talking on the phone moderately, I get almost two days.

Good signal, as well as know what programs not to run that drain your battery, coupled with closing all programs when not using them, wil go far in increasing battery life.

Anything you do that heats up your phone will kill the battery fast. A hot phone = a cpu running at full tilt, 624mhz. Thats a battery killer right there.

Reconditioning your battery every few months helps too.

mzimmer74 07-23-2009 01:40 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wogenst (Post 1054917)
And on that point, I need my phone at work. I cannot turn off the phone function because I get calls on occassion. What good is a phone if you can't turn on the phone portion or it will drain your battery??? Makes no sense to me.
Oh, I agree entirely...it sucks to turn it off. But, it's not a big deal for me as I'm a student and only work in this basement during the summer. Come August it'll be back on full time. I guess my point is if you can find out what's causing the drain (e.g. constantly trying to connect to the internet) you might have better luck figuring out how to fix it. Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you, just wanted to tell you what was happening to mine to give you some data points on a phone with similar programs.

One thought that did just occur to me...could it be the GPS as the problem? Maybe it's trying to find a satellite too often. You might try turning off the GPS for a day and see what happens. *shrug*

Edit: Just read your post about GPS...you are right that it shouldn't be trying to run except for when a program is accessing it, but something is obviously causing a problem.

Eschelon 07-23-2009 01:45 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzimmer74 (Post 1054935)
Oh, I agree entirely...it sucks to turn it off. But, it's not a big deal for me as I'm a student and only work in this basement during the summer. Come August it'll be back on full time. I guess my point is if you can find out what's causing the drain (e.g. constantly trying to connect to the internet) you might have better luck figuring out how to fix it. Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you, just wanted to tell you what was happening to mine to give you some data points on a phone with similar programs.

One thought that did just occur to me...could it be the GPS as the problem? Maybe it's trying to find a satellite too often. You might try turning off the GPS for a day and see what happens. *shrug*

Edit: Just read your post about GPS...you are right that it shouldn't be trying to run except for when a program is accessing it, but something is obviously causing a problem.
GPS doesn't really "find" a satellite or push a signal out into space. The 24 GPS satellites in space push out a constant signal to thier exact location 13,000 miles up. All your phone does is receive that signal from multiple satellites and then triangulate your position based on those signals. The GPS receiver in your phone doesn't drain much battery at all.

You mentioned earlier that you were surfing the net and using GPS apps... Are you actually closing them in task manager when you're done using those apps? (as oppsed to just hitting the 'X')?

Wogenst 07-23-2009 01:47 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzimmer74 (Post 1054935)
Oh, I agree entirely...it sucks to turn it off. But, it's not a big deal for me as I'm a student and only work in this basement during the summer. Come August it'll be back on full time. I guess my point is if you can find out what's causing the drain (e.g. constantly trying to connect to the internet) you might have better luck figuring out how to fix it. Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you, just wanted to tell you what was happening to mine to give you some data points on a phone with similar programs.

One thought that did just occur to me...could it be the GPS as the problem? Maybe it's trying to find a satellite too often. You might try turning off the GPS for a day and see what happens. *shrug*

Edit: Just read your post about GPS...you are right that it shouldn't be trying to run except for when a program is accessing it, but something is obviously causing a problem.
I saw a few other posts abot people having the battery heat up a bit more since the upgrade which prompted the response from Samsung to that person that it has happened to a few... This leads me to believe something is not kosher in the new ROM.

It's good that most here have an understanding of ROMS etc, but for those of us who are ROM ignorant, we just want the phone to work and work like it should. I personally have learned an awful lot here and thanks to EVERYONE for all of the helpful information. I FINALLY got my phone to where I liked it up until I upgraded last night. Now these few things are really bugging me. So if I seem a bit at odds, I have inverted a LOT of time into tweaking this phone to my liking.

Wogenst 07-23-2009 01:49 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1054949)
GPS doesn't really "find" a satellite or push a signal out into space. The 24 GPS satellites in space push out a constant signal to thier exact location 13,000 miles up. All your phone does is receive that signal from multiple satellites and then triangulate your position based on those signals. The GPS receiver in your phone doesn't drain much battery at all.

You mentioned earlier that you were surfing the net and using GPS apps... Are you actually closing them in task manager when you're done using those apps? (as oppsed to just hitting the 'X')?
Yep! That is what makes it so strange. I learned that day one about the minimize feature. SPB has a nice little running tasks area that you can kill all running tasks. If Google Maps is still running in the background somewhere I sure cinnot find where...

Wogenst 07-23-2009 02:14 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
One question is if I do a hard reset, even though I do not want to, will it still keep the new ROM and return to the new ROMS factory settings? I suspect that when I restored from my back up that I did screwed up some things as on My Storage I have some folder sthat were not there prior to me restoring my backup....

Eschelon 07-23-2009 02:16 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wogenst (Post 1055036)
One question is if I do a hard reset, even though I do not want to, will it still keep the new ROM and return to the new ROMS factory settings? I suspect that when I restored from my back up that I did screwed up some things as on My Storage I have some folder sthat were not there prior to me restoring my backup....
Yes. When you do a hard reset, it will default back to the 'factory' settings on the most recent ROM you have installed.

But it sounds like you just diagnosed your own problem... Don't do a full backup/restore. You should only restore PIM data (contatcs, email, call logs, etc). By doing a full backup/restore, you are going to cause numerous problems in the registry

Also, reset the 'My Storage' as well, since this is where the phones keeps it's old programming. Just be sure to back up everything first (cabs, pictures, etc)

Wogenst 07-23-2009 02:22 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1055045)
Yes. When you do a hard reset, it will default back to the 'factory' settings on the most recent ROM you have installed.

But it sounds like you just diagnosed your own problem... Don't do a full backup/restore. You should only restore PIM data (contatcs, email, call logs, etc). By doing a full backup/restore, you are going to cause numerous problems in the registry

Also, reset the 'My Storage' as well, since this is where the phones keeps it's old programming. Just be sure to back up everything first (cabs, pictures, etc)
I thought so. I was thinking of what was different and now I see what it may be. I saw others had similiar issues when using the active sync backup process in the directions...

Eschelon 07-23-2009 02:24 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wogenst (Post 1055069)
I thought so. I was thinking of what was different and now I see what it may be. I saw others had similiar issues when using the active sync backup process in the directions...
Kinda sucks having to rebuild everything from scratch, I know. But there are so many changes in the hive with each ROM upgrade, that doing a full restore is a surefire way to give yourself a migraine

Wogenst 07-23-2009 02:26 PM
Re: I Give Up! Ready to throw phone out the window!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1055075)
Kinda sucks having to rebuild everything from scratch, I know. But there are so many changes in the hive with each ROM upgrade, that doing a full restore is a surefire way to give yourself a migraine
Thus, the throw the phone out the window and I am frustrated comments. Fortunately I do not have a ton of customizations. just a few contacts...


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