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 Skype is a problem for me.  Since I live in the sticks, I have satellite internet, and the latency wreaks havoc with any kind of internet calling, VPN, etc. We could just do a chat. Maybe use the site's IRC? | 
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 I've no aversion to a true conference call, but I vote for a chat of some kind. The reason? It can be archived for reference easily without needing to be transcribed... and it doesn't require anything other than what a person already has (a mic is necessary for Skype and a phone necessary for a conf. call)--granted, not like those are difficult requirements, but just using IRC is easier, with the benefit of being able to save the chat log in case there's ever any question of what was discussed and decided upon. Edit: And I've looked through the thread again and don't see any discord? I think primarily people have been in agreement here. I do think we need defect tracking of some kind--whether it be through a sophisticated source control package or just being diligent about documenting in a forum or wiki. I do think whatever form it takes it should be accessible to the public. | 
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 Well i'm thinking we should use the 1.2 as the base (there might be a 1.3 or something of course, but you get the point)  and instead of actually creating the cookbook that can be an exercise for the reader.  It has been documented quite well up to this point.  If someone has the ambition to recreate it i think they could.  It would be nice to have another person compile all teh work to a n00b friendly list, but i have started to think this is something that is outside the scope of this project. starting from the base 1.2 we can use some version tracking to keep on course though for the documentation purpose. the site chat i guess would work, and up til now it's been quite private, but we'll see what happens if we actually say we will use it at a certain time hehe edit: Yup it's still private :wink: | 
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 i've been up for like 48 hrs now.. so.. it needs to be tomorrow sometime.  I for one at least feel that we need to talk some.  I have, or sense some serious reservations.. but to be honest a lot of that could just be how tired i am. Nevertheless right now I think i may have a fix about ready for the rndis issue, leaving btdun as last "known" obstacle. That being said what i hear as the "plan of action" doesnt seem to be that productive to me, might be my read of the thread {grant my fatigue}, but it just doesnt feel rigth. Chat is fine. | 
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 Let's try to setup a chat time for Sunday. I'm availale until Noon, Pacific, then after 9 PM. What about the rest of you? | 
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 It looks like tomorrow evening is best for sfaure03 and I.  The proposed time now is 8pm eastern/7pm central/5pm pacific.  This is just for the developers and analysts to check direction we are going.  we do not need other members of the team or the board at this time. however if someone wants to record the simpsons for me as an avi i might be able to post a transcript lol | 
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