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chong67 06-04-2012 11:34 AM

LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Oh man.

I cant believe S3 wins in every category!

Samsung Galaxy S3 vs. HTC One X (EVO 4G LTE): In-depth comparison | Digital Trends

I only like LTE for the kickstand and I cant live without it.

I dont know what to do.

chong67 06-04-2012 12:25 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
They do make case with kickstand. But it add some thickness to it.

Hmmmm .. debating

banzaiwolfe 06-04-2012 04:51 PM

First, it didn't win every category. Second, so what if one website that I've never been to before says they like one over the other. It's really up to you what you like, not everyone is going to like the same phone.

Sent from my Bananalicious Evo 3D

Laos101 06-04-2012 07:28 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
i heard the opposite considering the LTE can support more bandwidths of 4G than the S3 and in other respects is almost identical. I think it's a matter of preference in some respects.

chong67 06-06-2012 09:30 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
I dont like the button that is at the bottom of the S3. 4G LTE does not have this and I like it better.

S3 back is all shiny and slippery.

S3 screen is far superior to the LTE.

S3 battery you can take out.

I am still debating.

themuffinman 06-06-2012 09:57 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2180624)
I dont like the button that is at the bottom of the S3. 4G LTE does not have this and I like it better.

S3 back is all shiny and slippery.

S3 screen is far superior to the LTE.

S3 battery you can take out.

I am still debating.

Say what? The screen on the s3 is far superior? It may 1/10th of an inch larger but definitely not superior. If the s3 had the super amoled hd+ screen then maybe but being that it still has the same pentile layout as galaxy nexus then no the screen is not better.

orangekid 06-06-2012 01:51 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Wait a minute, did they compare the INTERNATIONAL SGS3 against the Sprint HOX variant? You know what SoC the Sprint S3 has? The exact same one as the Evo LTE. If they compare a quad core exynos against a snapdragon S4 krait, guess what, we already knew the exynos was way better. Who cares? None of the US SGS3 are getting Exynos. It's all Snapdragon S4. The HOX and SGS3 USA variants are basically identical other than removable battery and removable storage, and the SGS3 is getting 2GB RAM (a gimmick to make up for downgrading the processor if you ask me). I actually like SLCD2 over SAMOLED HD.

I'm going international SGS3 all the way. That and the Meizu MX (quad core) both have that awesome exynos processor that flies like a boss.

Riley 06-06-2012 02:02 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 2180625)
Say what? The screen on the s3 is far superior? It may 1/10th of an inch larger but definitely not superior. If the s3 had the super amoled hd+ screen then maybe but being that it still has the same pentile layout as galaxy nexus then no the screen is not better.

+1, my Rezound has a better screen the the Galaxy nexus or the upcoming SG3. lol.

orangekid 06-06-2012 02:57 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley (Post 2180653)
+1, my Rezound has a better screen the the Galaxy nexus or the upcoming SG3. lol.

Are you serious?

The S3 samoled HD kills the rezound screen.

And the rezound software is so abysmal does it really matter how the screen is?

Riley 06-06-2012 03:59 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2180664)
Are you serious?

The S3 samoled HD kills the rezound screen.

And the rezound software is so abysmal does it really matter how the screen is?

one word, Pentile. lol. Also not to get off topic but what are you talking about regarding the rezound software? Sense?

orangekid 06-06-2012 04:57 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley (Post 2180668)
one word, Pentile. lol. Also not to get off topic but what are you talking about regarding the rezound software? Sense?


Well stock ANY phone on verizon is pretty terrible, can we agree on that? All that garbage bloatware and carrier crap.

Now I am not as much into CDMA as when I actually had Sprint but I've seen the rezound and honestly I've grown to dislike Sense quite a bit. It's such a resource hog, some apps don't work on it, and those widgets are so clunky. Everything is over the top. Sense 4 is quite an improvement and I actually like it, I actually use the Sense 4 clock on any ROM I flash. I'm a themed AOSP kinda person though. I basically throw Nova themed with icons I like and a transparent genie widget and transparent power widget etc... so it looks really nice and clean and FAST, I mean I throw AOKP when I can, hands down the best ROM imo on any phone.

But I digress. I think it's stupid to compare exynos to krait. I'll be getting an SGS3, but haven't decided if I'll get the american 2GB ram version or intl exynos version. My opinion is that the Sprint SGS3 will run "better" than the Evo LTE because touchwiz is a lot lighter than Sense and ironically they gave more RAM to the phone that needs it less (I don't know why the sense framework uses so much damn RAM). It's the same SoC, basically the same specs. 2GB ram is so stupid on a phone, I never suffer low ram issues on 1gb and I have like 10 apps open, lol.

That article was pretty arbitrary. It's a matter of preference. These days HTC is looking more and more like Apple with no removable battery and no SD card slot (although I think the Sprint version might have an SD slot?) and locked bootloader (so stupid) that you either lose your warranty to unlock thru the htc dev crap or you can't even do that on the ATT variant. The devs had to hack that shit.

So yeah , SGS3 vs Evo LTE. Same shit under the hood.

Riley 06-06-2012 05:28 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2180670)
Well stock ANY phone on verizon is pretty terrible, can we agree on that? All that garbage bloatware and carrier crap.

Now I am not as much into CDMA as when I actually had Sprint but I've seen the rezound and honestly I've grown to dislike Sense quite a bit. It's such a resource hog, some apps don't work on it, and those widgets are so clunky. Everything is over the top. Sense 4 is quite an improvement and I actually like it, I actually use the Sense 4 clock on any ROM I flash. I'm a themed AOSP kinda person though. I basically throw Nova themed with icons I like and a transparent genie widget and transparent power widget etc... so it looks really nice and clean and FAST, I mean I throw AOKP when I can, hands down the best ROM imo on any phone.

But I digress. I think it's stupid to compare exynos to krait. I'll be getting an SGS3, but haven't decided if I'll get the american 2GB ram version or intl exynos version. My opinion is that the Sprint SGS3 will run "better" than the Evo LTE because touchwiz is a lot lighter than Sense and ironically they gave more RAM to the phone that needs it less (I don't know why the sense framework uses so much damn RAM). It's the same SoC, basically the same specs. 2GB ram is so stupid on a phone, I never suffer low ram issues on 1gb and I have like 10 apps open, lol.

That article was pretty arbitrary. It's a matter of preference. These days HTC is looking more and more like Apple with no removable battery and no SD card slot (although I think the Sprint version might have an SD slot?) and locked bootloader (so stupid) that you either lose your warranty to unlock thru the htc dev crap or you can't even do that on the ATT variant. The devs had to hack that shit.

So yeah , SGS3 vs Evo LTE. Same shit under the hood.

agreed on Verizon and HTC not having removable batteries. ugh, that's just makes no sense to me. Sense 3.6 is a resource hog for sure but the custom roms do a great job removing some of the bloat and speeding it up quite a bit. Plus I love Apex and use that alot these days. Sense 4 is an improvement for sure and I've tried some of the betas out there for the Rezound. The SGS3 should be great as well. I just like the hd lcd screens more so I really like the Evo LTE screen.

orangekid 06-06-2012 05:42 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Well I've been on the Galaxy Note and I can tell you that that is hands down the best screen I have ever seen, we're talking 720p SALMOED and that is freaking awesome. Now if they mess up the Sprint SGS3 screen then ya go with the LTEvo, but I'm kinda over HTC and their locked down ways. It's so easy to just fire up Odin and flash whatever the hell you want than going thru all these hoops with HTC shit and you have to worry about which HBOOT version you're on and so much drama just to root and flash. Samsung has the right idea, takes 1 second to unlock the bootloader and 5 seconds to flash a rooted system.img and you're donzo, you don't have to spend hours of ADB time and spin 4 times and sacrifice 4 pigs.

chong67 06-06-2012 11:07 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
What is this thing about amoled screen? I read that it is natural deep black and it save on your battery. Only Samsung have this right?

I dont have any of these phone but I did hold n touch a dead display LTE.

themuffinman 06-07-2012 12:28 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2180686)
What is this thing about amoled screen? I read that it is natural deep black and it save on your battery. Only Samsung have this right?

I dont have any of these phone but I did hold n touch a dead display LTE.

Super amoled screen does have some excellent blacks but when it comes to the overall quality of the screen its not even close, the slcd 2 on the evo owns the super amoled hd sceeen on the gs3.

orangekid 06-07-2012 09:46 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 2180694)
Super amoled screen does have some excellent blacks but when it comes to the overall quality of the screen its not even close, the slcd 2 on the evo owns the super amoled hd sceeen on the gs3.

Wow you've seen them both up close?

I have actually compared a One X and a Note side by side and the Note had a better display IMO, I guess it's personal preference but the Note has deeper blacks, better color all around and better saturation. On a 720P screen it just looks amazing.

themuffinman 06-07-2012 11:17 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2180718)
Wow you've seen them both up close?

I have actually compared a One X and a Note side by side and the Note had a better display IMO, I guess it's personal preference but the Note has deeper blacks, better color all around and better saturation. On a 720P screen it just looks amazing.

Well the galaxy note has a 800 X 1280 super amoled screen(5.3") which comes out to about 285ppi. The galaxy nexus has 720 X 1280 super amoled screen(4.65") which comes out to about 316ppi. I own a galaxy nexus and I also compared it to a galaxy note just this past weekend and IMO the nexus screen looks a little sharper than the note. Now don't get me wrong, the average person probably wouldn't even notice or even care for that matter but to me the nexus has the better screen. I also have the evo lte and side by side with the nexus you can really see the difference in the two. You can easily see the pentile layout, especially when it came to smaller fonts which annoys the hell out of me. I do like how the colors pop on the nexus but the slight over saturation makes most things look slightly unrealistic and "cartoony". The slcd 2 on the evo can't compete when it comes to black levels but in my opinion it destroys samoled every where else. The gs3 will basically have the same screen as the gnex with some slight improvements but the pentile layout is definitely a turn off for me. If the gs3 has a super amoled hd+ screen(aka, no pentile) I would sell my gnex right now and get that when it comes out.

orangekid 06-07-2012 01:23 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 2180726)
Well the galaxy note has a 800 X 1280 super amoled screen(5.3") which comes out to about 285ppi. The galaxy nexus has 720 X 1280 super amoled screen(4.65") which comes out to about 316ppi. I own a galaxy nexus and I also compared it to a galaxy note just this past weekend and IMO the nexus screen looks a little sharper than the note. Now don't get me wrong, the average person probably wouldn't even notice or even care for that matter but to me the nexus has the better screen. I also have the evo lte and side by side with the nexus you can really see the difference in the two. You can easily see the pentile layout, especially when it came to smaller fonts which annoys the hell out of me. I do like how the colors pop on the nexus but the slight over saturation makes most things look slightly unrealistic and "cartoony". The slcd 2 on the evo can't compete when it comes to black levels but in my opinion it destroys samoled every where else. The gs3 will basically have the same screen as the gnex with some slight improvements but the pentile layout is definitely a turn off for me. If the gs3 has a super amoled hd+ screen(aka, no pentile) I would sell my gnex right now and get that when it comes out.

That's actually a good point, I guess it's all in what you want. Pentile doesn't bother me and I actually owned a gnexus and Note simultaneously, the PPI doesn't really seem to make a difference. ~720P on a 5.3" screen I can't see ANY pixelation. For me the ultimate chooser for Sprint users is the previously mentioned fact that HTC phones are such a pita to mod now and samsung phones are like 2 clicks with Odin and you're flashing away.

shepherdofthedamned 06-07-2012 07:02 PM

A phone that has yet to be actually released in this country, can't compare to what I have. Real world tests are all that matters to me, not some nerd on an obscure website

Sent From My Righteous EVO 4G LTE

rootlinux 06-07-2012 11:37 PM

I have had several Sammy devices and they all stunk as far as my experiences go.
Compared to all the HTC devices in have had.
HTC all the way.
Even if the next Sammy has better hardware specs it will still blow as far as I can imagine.
Just from my experience.

Judge for yourselves but my mind is made up. :)

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

shepherdofthedamned 06-08-2012 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootlinux (Post 2180771)
I have had several Sammy devices and they all stunk as far as my experiences go.
Compared to all the HTC devices in have had.
HTC all the way.
Even if the next Sammy has better hardware specs it will still blow as far as I can imagine.
Just from my experience.

Judge for yourselves but my mind is made up. :)

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

This! I used Samsung almost exclusively for dumb phones. I have tried several androids, but have been left disappointed

Sent From My Righteous EVO 4G LTE

AB33 06-08-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2180624)

S3 back is all shiny and slippery.

S3 screen is far superior to the LTE.

Many reviews/users I have read say that LCD 2 is better than SuperAmoled.

Sent from my EVO LTE using Tapatalk 2

orangekid 06-08-2012 09:20 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rootlinux (Post 2180771)
I have had several Sammy devices and they all stunk as far as my experiences go.
Compared to all the HTC devices in have had.
HTC all the way.
Even if the next Sammy has better hardware specs it will still blow as far as I can imagine.
Just from my experience.

Judge for yourselves but my mind is made up. :)

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

Did you use an SGS2?

eric12341 06-08-2012 11:07 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
I'm all for HTC because of their devotion to sound quality and enhancements. Shouldn't this be in phone comparison?

gullzway 06-09-2012 12:31 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2180791)
Did you use an SGS2?


I was going to ask the same question until I scrolled down and saw yours.

rootlinux 06-09-2012 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2180791)
Did you use an SGS2?

No but I have had so many that were junk that I will never buy another.
Others may have better luck but for me having so many failed Sammy devices I am done with them.
Never have I had any HTC fail like all my Sammy devices.
Plus I actually like Sense.

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

gullzway 06-09-2012 01:10 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rootlinux (Post 2180849)
No but I have had so many that were junk that I will never buy another.
Others may have better luck but for me having so many failed Sammy devices I am done with them.
Never have I had any HTC fail like all my Sammy devices.
Plus I actually like Sense.

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

Touche, I'm the opposite I guess. Every HTC device I had(Apache,Touch,Diamond, and Touch Pro 2) had to be replaced by insurance for some defect or another, most more than once. Never had an issue with my Moment, Epic, or Epic Touch. In fact I dropped the insurance after I left HTC devices, and haven't needed it since.

The Performance on the Epic touch can't be compared with the earlier samsung devices, it's in another League!

princem131 06-10-2012 12:16 PM

Samsung burnt a lot of people with their early android devices. Those prototypes that they sold (cuz those buggy POS where not finished products lol), the moment and the intercept and pretty much every phone prior to the Galaxy S phones and honestly probably the SGSII, where horrible. My brother and gf went thru 3-4 moments and then 2-3 intercepts (which was pitched as a solution to issues with the moment smh). Eventually got them on a Evo Shift and a E3D they've been cool since.

SGSII has been really tempting from friends testimonies and the SIII is interesting too (heard you can watch a video pic-in-pic while still doin other things. Only spec that I'm intrigued by) but I just can't forget the crap I went thru with my family and their early phones. Dealing with those left such a bad taste in my mouth idk if I can switch teams lol.

Positive Vibrations

frazy 06-11-2012 03:02 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
According to Sprint's Website, the S3 comes with " 4.8" (1280x720) HD Super AMOLED touchscreen" and the Evo LTE comes with " 4.7" HD 720p Super LCD touchscreen.

Can someone please clarify all this pentile crap I've been reading. Explain the true difference between AMOLED vs. LCD to people on here. Thanks

orangekid 06-11-2012 10:51 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rootlinux (Post 2180849)
No but I have had so many that were junk that I will never buy another.
Others may have better luck but for me having so many failed Sammy devices I am done with them.
Never have I had any HTC fail like all my Sammy devices.
Plus I actually like Sense.

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

Just like Gullz, I have the opposite experience.

Failed chip and nand on HD2 phones, bad emmc chips on MyTouch 4G, bad buttons on MyTouch 4G slide, bad screen on Sensation 4G...

The SGS was plagued with issues, but the SGS2 is a world of difference. There was no HTC phone that even came close to being as fast/stable/awesome as the SGS2, that's why Samusng sells more phones than HTC and why the SGS2 was known as the best smartphone. Samsung also outsells Apple because of the SGS2. You should use one before opining, it may change your mind. Let's talk SGS3 a little bit.

You have to actually use it (even if just at the store) before saying the Evo LTE is any better.

I know I ranted about the S4 chip a little but honestly it's a really good chip. I saw some actual benches and I think the RAM will actually make a real difference. Dalvik VM will put it to very good use. While the Evo LTE ships with 1GB RAM and Sense hogging up a good percentage of it, the SGS3 has 2 GB RAM and ships with the light and fast touchwiz UI, which I actually hate. But launchers such as Nova and Apex IMO run better over an AOSP-like framework than they do over Sense.

With the screen I don't think it makes too much difference. SLCD vs SAMOLED, honestly I have/had both and your eyes adjust to whichever one you use pretty fast. Both have 720p displays and your eyes can't tell individual pixels at that resolution on ANY smartphone. The reason you might think the Galaxy Nexus didn't look all that great was probably due to a bad screen issue known on the device. My Galaxy Note looks amazing and crisp and PenTile or not, I personally think it beats the ATT HOX screen.

I think the SGS3 will outsell the HOX (and all variants like the Evo LTE) and will also outsell the iPhone 5.

The reason I would get the SGS3 over the Evo LTE if I were on Sprint:

1) EXTREMELY easy to root and flash, who knows what updates to the Evo are going to do to rooters and flashers.

2) 2GB RAM will make a difference.

3) .1" bigger screen. Don't think it will show a little? Hold up an iPhone next to a Nexus One (.2" difference) and see how noticeable it is.

4) Sense Framework. Even if you like it, it noticeably hogs more resources, even with another launcher over it.

5) Samsung works WITH developers, not against them. They don't lock down bootloaders, they don't make you void your warranty and jump thru 20 hoops to get a bootloader unlock on SOME devices. They are even working with developers to find out what part of a new leaked kernel is hard-bricking devices. I swear HTC is turning into the Android version of Apple and it's getting pretty annoying. I used to swear by HTC and I loved their phones. The HD2 is still my favorite phone ever because it runs every OS out there besides iOS. But I am getting with the SGS3 over the HOX variants available to me.

eric12341 06-11-2012 07:01 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Samsung passed HTC? When did that happen?

frazy 06-12-2012 01:44 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
This is an in-depth article on the different types of screens. The author really seems to know his stuff on point.

HD Super AMOLED versus Retina Display, and other screens (Smartphones Unlocked) | Dialed In - CNET Blogs

So basically from the article they who is getting the job done right when it comes to screens --> Apple & Samsung

I hope this helps to clear up the confusion between this whole S3 vs EVO LTE debate in terms of screens.

Nibis 06-12-2012 06:50 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
LOL, Apple sued Samsung as well, phones will probably be delayed

sanmanc 06-12-2012 02:15 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
The problem I have found with many CNET articles is they tend to be biased and lean toward the iPhone.

Fosters 06-16-2012 01:05 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
After owning an epic for 2 years, no more samsung phones for me, ever.

The support from samsung when it comes to updates is absolutely horrendous. HTC is leaps and bounds ahead of samsung there. Epic got Froyo like 9 months after the original Evo. During those 9 months I had to juggle applications because they couldn't be installed to the sd card... sooo dumb. The keyboard sucked compared to the Touch Pro 2 keyboard, but then again, all keyboards suck compared to the TP2 keyboard. The Epic could go through a battery from full charge in the morning to dead before lunch time if used hard... I'm surprised the Seidio extended battery case didn't come with a diesel truck battery pack attached. I am disappointed that the battery isn't removable in the ELTE, but oh well, no more samsung phones for me.

Sauske 06-16-2012 02:02 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
I vote, close this thread!

dabhome 06-16-2012 08:48 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2180488)
I cant believe S3 wins in every category!

Wins in every category. Far from it.

There were 15 categories. Here are the number of wins by phone:

Ties/TBD - 4
Galaxy S3 - 7
One X/EVO 4G LTE - 4

However, of the 7 Galaxy S3 wins, 2 of them were just barely, one of them was for a feature that nobody has praised (other then to suggest they liked they were working on it) and one was only if you spent an additional $100 for an extra 16GB, otherwise it is a tie.

They are both great phones. I think it depends on what you are interested in. By the way, I evaluated the S3 before buying the EVO.

Riley 06-16-2012 09:40 PM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Thread moved to phone comparison.

gTen 06-17-2012 05:11 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2180839)
I'm all for HTC because of their devotion to sound quality and enhancements. Shouldn't this be in phone comparison?

lol...what?!?!?? Eric, I don't think you have ever heard a wolfson DAC do its magic. To put it precisely, HTC uses a built in sound card and gives you a bunch of crappy EQ profiles (which you can make yourself via apps like poweramp). Samsung actually includes a dedicated sound cards and one of the best there is.


The only savior this time around is Qualcomm in the Krait actually decided to include a decent built in DAC but it is no Wolfson. (Too bad the US SGS3 will not have wolfson due to it having same processor as One X)

The Wolfson DAC is so good, it produces better audio then my laptops lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazy (Post 2181049)
So basically from the article they who is getting the job done right when it comes to screens --> Apple LG & Samsung

I fixed it for you.


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As for which one to choose, I think both are a good choice. The things that really make the SGS3 stand out is actually the 2gb ram. I mean whats the point of a super phone if it can't run a bunch of apps at once?

Other minor things are removable battery, sd card, wireless charging, unencrypted bootloader.

Karl 06-17-2012 05:32 AM

Re: LTE vs S3: S3 wins in every category
 
cant wait to check out the T999 hopefully there will be good development for it
are all the USA versions get the Krait MSM8960 right?


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