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Clipp 08-02-2011 01:32 AM

Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Just wondering... I know some are already beyond their 30 days, but for those who aren't or willing to sell.... after having ample time with the EVO 3D, are you sticking with it or jumping to the newly released Motorola Photon 4G. Why or why not?

I suspect most who disinterested in the E3D will end up waiting it out for the Sprint Galaxy S II ;) . But I'm interested to hear from those who at least thought about getting the Photon.

2k4mach 08-02-2011 09:23 AM

Motowiz or whatever its called doesnt even compare to sense 3. I was gonna get 1 but nah im more than happy with the 3d.

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guitardoc64 08-02-2011 09:27 AM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
With s-off and root for my E3D, I don't think so.

Chuck_IV 08-02-2011 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitardoc64 (Post 2134508)
With s-off and root for my E3D, I don't think so.

+1

Now that we have root, the EVO 3D has all new potential.

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luckyzac 08-02-2011 01:33 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_IV (Post 2134554)
+1

Now that we have root, the EVO 3D has all new potential.

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+1

3vo ftw

Karl 08-02-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_IV (Post 2134554)
+1

Now that we have root, the EVO 3D has all new potential.

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+2

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vickydj1974 08-02-2011 03:23 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
never ever i love my EVO3D

andy780214 08-02-2011 05:19 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
evo 3d is your best choice.

Wiley_11 08-02-2011 08:24 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
I'm keeping mine until 12/21/2012 (Mayan Calendar) or hell freezes over, whichever comes first. 8)

DreadfullyDespized 08-03-2011 12:44 AM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Before root I was maybe.. after root I am in my happy tech place again :)

darren.wlsn1 08-03-2011 03:40 AM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
fight night

[Wirefly Schmackdown] Motorola Photon 4G Vs. HTC EVO 3D: Fight!

gator352 08-03-2011 04:11 AM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1 (Post 2134748)

In 3D??

Besides, from the look of the Photon 4G forums with it's huge database of users (rolls eyes), this isn't even a fight. This is a pummeling of EPIC proportions. But to thier defense, I think all 5 owners are happy.

Karl 08-03-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiley_11 (Post 2134674)
I'm keeping mine until 12/21/2012 (Mayan Calendar) or hell freezes over, whichever comes first. 8)

Wow me to got love early termination

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fuzzy26 08-03-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiley_11 (Post 2134674)
I'm keeping mine until 12/21/2012 (Mayan Calendar) or hell freezes over, whichever comes first. 8)

+ 1 and then some!

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u8myfoood 08-03-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Well to be fair the Photon has root now too. Just A TON more complex and expensive to get root (requires the $100 dock)
Either way I love my 3VO <3. Screw Moto.

gTen 08-03-2011 06:46 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
The Photon would have been really good if it was more like the Bionic with the OMAP processor...the Tegra 2 is just not on par with the other dual cores...until Tegra 2.5 comes out...though at this rate I think most manufacturers will skip the Tegra 2.5 and go straight for the quad core...

princem131 08-03-2011 07:21 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Just rooted my E3D yesterday.... I dont think so! Anxiously awaiting the flood of quality roms for my Evo 3D that I KNOW are days away!

~~waits for email from flipz.....

jimmiekain 08-03-2011 07:30 PM

Returned my evo3d after 6 days. I am waiting for the galaxy s 2 aka epic touch

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darren.wlsn1 08-03-2011 08:03 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmiekain (Post 2134915)
Returned my evo3d after 6 days. I am waiting for the galaxy s 2 aka epic touch

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Thata boy.

Carla 08-03-2011 11:39 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
I returned mine after 2 weeks, give or take. Just gonna wait it out for the SGS2 as well.

darren.wlsn1 08-03-2011 11:52 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlaDarla (Post 2134963)
I returned mine after 2 weeks, give or take. Just gonna wait it out for the SGS2 as well.

look above and substitute girl for boy.

oops, new page so you get your own "thata girl"

AB33 08-04-2011 11:31 AM

No way!

From the looks of things HTC is number one overall when it comes to developing and supporting Android smartphones. I put Samsung at number 2 and then Motorola at a distant third. Samsung makes the best screens for the Galaxy's but that's about it. HTC has more frequent updates and the phones just seem to operate better. I know so many people with various Samsung and Motorola Android devices that just aren't as satisfied as people I know with HTC Android phones. For example, the EVO came out way before the Galaxy S phones for the 4 major carriers and they are still running 2.1 or 2.2 and the ATT Samsung Captivate can't even get the Froyo update OTA. The Evo is on its second version of 2.3. Just my 2 cents.

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gTen 08-04-2011 01:51 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AB33 (Post 2135064)
No way!

From the looks of things HTC is number one overall when it comes to developing and supporting Android smartphones. I put Samsung at number 2 and then Motorola at a distant third. Samsung makes the best screens for the Galaxy's but that's about it. HTC has more frequent updates and the phones just seem to operate better. I know so many people with various Samsung and Motorola Android devices that just aren't as satisfied as people I know with HTC Android phones. For example, the EVO came out way before the Galaxy S phones for the 4 major carriers and they are still running 2.1 or 2.2 and the ATT Samsung Captivate can't even get the Froyo update OTA. The Evo is on its second version of 2.3. Just my 2 cents.

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Phone updates has more to do with the carriers rather then the manufacturers..the international SGS had alread like 10 updates because the updates come directly from Samsung. International version had 2.3 a month or 2 before the evo...on carriers I'll tell you Samsung sends a new beta to Sprint every single week to test..we already have like 6 beta leaks of 2.3...latest one being 2.3.4..

As for Motorola, Motorola got GB on Droid X even before the evo did. Out of all the manufacturers motorola probably has the longest update history for Android..the original Motorola Droid for example is the only Android phone that was supported for 2 years with updates...

Most people's satisfaction depends on their comfort zone..aka when you get used to something and end up switching...the moment issues happen you begin to regret switching without realizing that you weren't any better off before...its a psychological thing to change...

dfve 08-04-2011 04:09 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gator352 (Post 2134751)
In 3D??

Besides, from the look of the Photon 4G forums with it's huge database of users (rolls eyes), this isn't even a fight. This is a pummeling of EPIC proportions. But to thier defense, I think all 5 owners are happy.

hhahahaaaaaa
as i sit looking at my e4g...trying to decide if i want to give it up....

Clipp 08-04-2011 05:29 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
I think Sprint users have more loyalty towards HTC phones than users on other carriers. We've been using HTC phones on multiple platforms for years and during that time other options were scarce. Hell, even today, their only Windows Phone 7 is made by HTC. Last year, Samsung entered the picture and I remember how much hate there was towards them. That hate dwindled and turned to acceptance once the Epic got rave reviews though. And now we got the Galaxy S II coming and we know that will be a hit...

Anyway, there's never been a high-end Android by Motorola on Sprint, so it's not surprising that people aren't jumping all over it I guess. Doesn't really help that the Photon doesn't offer anything new either. They should have at least made it thin...

I'm wondering if the Photon would be as unpopular had these phones (EVO 3D, Photon 4G) been released on Verizon.... that carrier is in love with Motorola and their customers seem to love them too.

yankees45us 08-04-2011 06:05 PM

All I know is that the photon is a great looking phone and it's gotten some great reviews. If I had to give up my 3d, it would be for the photon. Although the sgs2 is on it's way to sprint too. It's great to be a sprint customer. Especially with the announcement of lte and possible expansion of wimax till lte on sprint is ready.

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gTen 08-04-2011 06:13 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankees45us (Post 2135177)
All I know is that the photon is a great looking phone and it's gotten some great reviews. If I had to give up my 3d, it would be for the photon. Although the sgs2 is on it's way to sprint too. It's great to be a sprint customer. Especially with the announcement of lte and possible expansion of wimax till lte on sprint is ready.

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By the sound of the last article:

PPCGeeks.com » Clearwire Adding 120Mbps “LTE-Advanced” to it’s Holdings

There is gonna be no more wimax build out..they gonan be building out LTE 2 instead :/

subzero1313 08-04-2011 07:58 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Put it like this, there was a training where i could have gotten 1 for free, but my manager wanted me to return my 3D.....I said "no thanks, I justt got rid of my Evo, I'm not going back to Motorolas version of it"

stellanwick 08-05-2011 04:29 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Switched from the Evo 3D to the Photon for a week. I ran back into the store begging them to take the Photon back with tears in my eyes. Fortunately, Best Buy gives you 30-days to return it. First of all, this is the first Android phone that I've actually had the voice dial work about 99% of the time (the 3D, not the Photon). Secondly, HTC Sense UI is so much better than Motorola's Blur's ugly, stoic interface. If you care, the Photon takes better pictures, and I do believe that the Photon fits into the same dock as the Atrix, so you can have that neat little dock that turns it into a laptop. The Photon also has the potential to be International as well.

That being said, the Photon is notably slower than the Evo 3D. That might be due to the slower 1GHz dual-core Tegra in the Photon vs. the 1.2GHz Snapdragon in the Evo. It's still not slow by any means, but the Evo 3D is a whole lot more fluid than the Photon. You also cannot root the Photon (yet), and may never be able to if Motorola gets its way. The Evo is world more flexible than the Photon in this aspect.

Phone calls are notably better on the Photon, but the speakerphone on the Evo 3D is WAY better. The Photon also gets better reception on the Evo 3D (which might account for the better call quality).

The breaking point of the Photon is basically this: The interface is awful and the speed is notably slower. Did I mention the interface?

dakidobf 08-05-2011 05:04 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stellanwick (Post 2135420)
Switched from the Evo 3D to the Photon for a week. I ran back into the store begging them to take the Photon back with tears in my eyes. Fortunately, Best Buy gives you 30-days to return it. First of all, this is the first Android phone that I've actually had the voice dial work about 99% of the time (the 3D, not the Photon). Secondly, HTC Sense UI is so much better than Motorola's Blur's ugly, stoic interface. If you care, the Photon takes better pictures, and I do believe that the Photon fits into the same dock as the Atrix, so you can have that neat little dock that turns it into a laptop. The Photon also has the potential to be International as well.

That being said, the Photon is notably slower than the Evo 3D. That might be due to the slower 1GHz dual-core Tegra in the Photon vs. the 1.2GHz Snapdragon in the Evo. It's still not slow by any means, but the Evo 3D is a whole lot more fluid than the Photon. You also cannot root the Photon (yet), and may never be able to if Motorola gets its way. The Evo is world more flexible than the Photon in this aspect.

Phone calls are notably better on the Photon, but the speakerphone on the Evo 3D is WAY better. The Photon also gets better reception on the Evo 3D (which might account for the better call quality).

The breaking point of the Photon is basically this: The interface is awful and the speed is notably slower. Did I mention the interface?

So tell us, how does the interface compare? lol

Nah, I thought about it because to me, the camera on the E3d really blows. May not matter to some, but I take a lot of pics of my kid so I need a decent camera phone. But I just doen't have faith in Motorola products, not to mention I'd have to pay $150 for the thing, since I traded in my Evo to get the 3d. Now once that SGIIS drops, I may be jumping ship.

boe 08-05-2011 05:58 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
I'll probably be putting my EVO 3D up on Craigslist and getting the Samsung Galaxy SII. I like the Sense UI by I've tried 3 EVO 3Ds and they all have horrible call quality and drop calls in places my last 3 HTC WM phones on Sprint never dropped calls.

derfnoslen 08-05-2011 07:13 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
I took mines back after a week, I'm waiting for the SGII. I don't know why people wouldn't listen to the reviewers. Most of them told us not to get it because of call quality. Now people are stuck with the phone for 1 or 2 years smh. The photon is slower than the 3d and the 3d isn't THAT fast. Sense 3.0 is nice but they need a quad core to run that thing lag free, after I installed a bunch of apps it slowed down. Guess I'll give the SGII a try. Someone has to be able to make a lag free phone.

gTen 08-05-2011 10:46 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stellanwick (Post 2135420)
You also cannot root the Photon (yet), and may never be able to if Motorola gets its way. The Evo is world more flexible than the Photon in this aspect.

You can root the photon, you just gotta get the dock to root it lol

boe 08-05-2011 11:59 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by derfnoslen (Post 2135455)
Someone has to be able to make a lag free phone.

I would be happy if I could just complete a call without the call being dropped or someone saying "what did you say? Can you call me back from a land line?"

acoleman1981 08-06-2011 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gator352 (Post 2134751)
In 3D??

Besides, from the look of the Photon 4G forums with it's huge database of users (rolls eyes), this isn't even a fight. This is a pummeling of EPIC proportions. But to thier defense, I think all 5 owners are happy.

I'm extremely happy with my photon 4g. So the 5 of us have a phone that runs circles around the 3d with a slower processor and much better video.

gator352 08-06-2011 07:51 AM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acoleman1981 (Post 2135525)
I'm extremely happy with my photon 4g. So the 5 of us have a phone that runs circles around the 3d with a slower processor and much better video.

I'm still debating. I'm on my third and this one seems to be much better than my other 2. No screen tilt, no dust under screen, no light leaks, and best of all it actually gets better reception. With the other 2, they would drop calls and go into roaming for no reason...even in the middle of Orlando, Florida! This new one I got, goes into roaming more often than my OG Evo but it doesn't drop calls and call quality seems ok.

What to do, what to do!!!???

gator352 08-06-2011 08:05 AM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by derfnoslen (Post 2135455)
I took mines back after a week, I'm waiting for the SGII. I don't know why people wouldn't listen to the reviewers. Most of them told us not to get it because of call quality. Now people are stuck with the phone for 1 or 2 years smh. The photon is slower than the 3d and the 3d isn't THAT fast. Sense 3.0 is nice but they need a quad core to run that thing lag free, after I installed a bunch of apps it slowed down. Guess I'll give the SGII a try. Someone has to be able to make a lag free phone.

Android 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 respectively do NOT have dual core support. Because of this limitation (at the moment) nothing can utilize them either and this includes sense 3.0 and any apps developed to take advantage of them. Until Google get's off its Goggles and adds dual core support to its OS, the second core is as worthless as skinny jeans on a man. But when this happenes, our phones will fly and then die (batt) like you've never seen BUT, there will always be lag due to our phones not being upto snuff on current ram technology.

gTen 08-06-2011 12:28 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gator352 (Post 2135560)
Android 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 respectively do NOT have dual core support. Because of this limitation (at the moment) nothing can utilize them either and this includes sense 3.0 and any apps developed to take advantage of them. Until Google get's off its Goggles and adds dual core support to its OS, the second core is as worthless as skinny jeans on a man. But when this happenes, our phones will fly and then die (batt) like you've never seen BUT, there will always be lag due to our phones not being upto snuff on current ram technology.

Not true..as of gingerbread if an App has dual core support it can take advantage of it via SMP. Native Dual-core support comes in Honeycomb which will be ICS for phones..

As for the ram comment..as far as I am aware they all are using LP DDR2 which is faster then then the old LP DDR ram..

Plus some phones have one of these:
SAMSUNG Semiconductor - Products - Fusion Memory - OneDRAM™

(This is the secret behind the sgs smoothness and gpu performance)

gator352 08-06-2011 04:34 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2135593)
Not true..as of gingerbread if an App has dual core support it can take advantage of it via SMP. Native Dual-core support comes in Honeycomb which will be ICS for phones..

As for the ram comment..as far as I am aware they all are using LP DDR2 which is faster then then the old LP DDR ram..

Plus some phones have one of these:
SAMSUNG Semiconductor - Products - Fusion Memory - OneDRAM™

(This is the secret behind the sgs smoothness and gpu performance)

Last I read, HTC uses DDR, not DDR II because the boards didn't support them. I will find the link and add it here. But if that's the case, they are bandwidth limited.

That's what I was thinking, that 2.3.3, 2.3.4 didn't have native support. I know that apps via smp can be mutithreaded but HTC hasn't included support in sense 3.0, much like they didn't include drivers for hardware graphics rendering for a bunch of thier phone lineup pre evo.

gTen 08-06-2011 05:19 PM

Re: Anyone returning their EVO 3D for the Photon 4G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gator352 (Post 2135645)
Last I read, HTC uses DDR, not DDR II because the boards didn't support them. I will find the link and add it here. But if that's the case, they are bandwidth limited.

That's what I was thinking, that 2.3.3, 2.3.4 didn't have native support. I know that apps via smp can be mutithreaded but HTC hasn't included support in sense 3.0, much like they didn't include drivers for hardware graphics rendering for a bunch of thier phone lineup pre evo.

It is LP DDR2..but yes its slow and its single channel in the Evo 3D..the ram bandwidth in the photon and sgs2 is around 2x faster...


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