PPCGeeks

PPCGeeks (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/index.php)
-   Phone Comparison (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=60)
-   -   What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with? (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=144431)

NYC Guy 06-09-2011 04:52 PM

What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
My Sprint contract is expiring the end of June and currently I am using the HTC Touch Pro 2 which is running on WM 6.5. Sprint is offering me $150 toward a new phone on 7/1, what models in their current lineup should I be considering? By the way, the reason why I selected the TP2 to begin with was because of the 5 row slider keyboard. I must have a 5 row keyboard similar to the TP2's highly rated keyboard in my replacement phone. The operating system doesn't have to be WM and I am open to the Android operating system but it must be a 4G phone!

Also if you know of something in the pipeline that is coming out in the next few months that is worth waiting for I can always wait and stay on a month to month deal with Sprint.

gullzway 06-09-2011 06:08 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Epic 4G is your only choice for now, and it's a great phone! Haven't seen any other Qwerty keyboard phones listed for the near future.

eric12341 06-09-2011 07:36 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
don't give into the 4G hype and go for the HTC arrive,it is an excellent phone and it will get even better in September when the mango update hits. some 4G WP7 devices are in the pipeline but I don't think they will have a QWERTY as these types of phones are a dying breed. the arrive has one just like the TP2 with some minor differences but I rarely use it since the onscreen keys are nearly the same size when the phone is turned to landscape mode.

NYC Guy 06-09-2011 07:48 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2113802)
don't give into the 4G hype and go for the HTC arrive,it is an excellent phone and it will get even better in September when the mango update hits. some 4G WP7 devices are in the pipeline but I don't think they will have a QWERTY as these types of phones are a dying breed. the arrive has one just like the TP2 with some minor differences but I rarely use it since the onscreen keys are nearly the same size when the phone is turned to landscape mode.

Why do you make the comment about 4G phones? Speed is still speed!
Also wouldn't you agree that there are far more apps for Android phones as opposed to WP7?

I realize that a 5 row slider keyboard is aimed at a niche market but I really prefer to type on a hard keyboard and I have tried using the touch screen on my TP2 in landscape mode.

Incidentally Sprint is notorious for taking their time when it comes to updates. Just take a look at how long it took for the WM6.5 update to be officially released by them.

eric12341 06-09-2011 08:21 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC Guy (Post 2113808)
Why do you make the comment about 4G phones? Speed is still speed!
2 razónes.

1) 4G is not available everywhere 3G is available yet,3G is still sufficient for alot of things just like HD is.
2) it has poor battery optimization in Android out of the box.

Also wouldn't you agree that there are far more apps for Android phones as opposed to WP7?
I agree but alot of those apps could be trash or dupes of ones that already exist, the wp7 marketplace is growing at an alarming rate and is now 2nd on development. I really don't use apps anyway and just goto the websites on the kickass browser that will be even mote kickass once mango hits.

I realize that a 5 row slider keyboard is aimed at a niche market but I really prefer to type on a hard keyboard and I have tried using the touch screen on my TP2 in landscape mode.
typing on the touchscreen keyboard on the arrive or any wp7 device is a whole world of difference when compared to the one on the tp2. because the arrive uses a capacitive screen which is more accurate and touch sensitive than the resistive screen on the tp2. the screen keyboard in wp7 is also being regarded as the best and most accurate stock touch keyboard
Incidentally Sprint is notorious for taking their time when it comes to updates. Just take a look at how long it took for the WM6.5 update to be officially released by them.

it only took them 2 weeks to deliver the security update to the arrive after its release. so far they have a good track record for updates in wp7

my responses are in bold above.

horndoctor 06-10-2011 01:53 AM

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 8.12; MSIEMobile6.0) Sprint T7380)

Get the Arrive! Or another TP2. :)

austin420 06-10-2011 09:45 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
i just like the feel of hardward keys clicking. tactile feedback with a soft keyboard just isnt the same.

NYC Guy 06-10-2011 09:49 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2114000)
i just like the feel of hardward keys clicking. tactile feedback with a soft keyboard just isnt the same.


It isn't just the feel of them clicking but often times I can type without having to look at the keys just like on a normal computer keyboard.

rip777s 06-10-2011 11:22 AM

I switched from the TP2 in january, to the EVO. I had always thought I needed a slider keyboard, old guy with fat fingers. But I really love Swype. And am far happier with the phone and android. So much faster. EVO Shift is the same form & size, with keyboard. What are you waiting for?

Sent from my HTC EVO using Tapatalk

scrosler 06-10-2011 01:41 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gullzway (Post 2113777)
Epic 4G is your only choice for now, and it's a great phone! Haven't seen any other Qwerty keyboard phones listed for the near future.

+1 Agree

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2113802)
don't give into the 4G hype and go for the HTC arrive,it is an excellent phone and it will get even better in September when the mango update hits. some 4G WP7 devices are in the pipeline but I don't think they will have a QWERTY as these types of phones are a dying breed. the arrive has one just like the TP2 with some minor differences but I rarely use it since the onscreen keys are nearly the same size when the phone is turned to landscape mode.

-1 Wow....

a) 4G hype? What so hyped about it? Its fast as hell when you can get it. Thats not hype, thats truth.

b) Mango update.... buy the phone now and wait until September to gain full functionality that is already available on other platforms (Read: ANDROID!)... That sounds like Hype to me!

c) QWERTY phones a dying breed? Really? I tend to disagree. I think that is just your opinion. Do you have any sales data to back this up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rip777s (Post 2114045)
I switched from the TP2 in january, to the EVO. I had always thought I needed a slider keyboard, old guy with fat fingers. But I really love Swype. And am far happier with the phone and android. So much faster. EVO Shift is the same form & size, with keyboard. What are you waiting for?

Sent from my HTC EVO using Tapatalk

+1 FTW!!! SWYPE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

I didint think I could give up a hard keyboard but after using Swype on my Optimus S I couldnt ever go back to a hard keyboard. I had hard keyboard phones starting with the Apache, then Titan, then Pro, then Pro2. Now I shutter at the thought of a hard keyboard. They just add so much bulk to the phone. But dont get me wrong either, If you need a hard keyboard... Then you need a hard keyboard. My preferences changed as I explored other options.


BTW: This should be moved to Phone Comparison forum. Just sayin....

eric12341 06-10-2011 03:32 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scrosler (Post 2114098)
+1 Agree



-1 Wow....

a) 4G hype? What so hyped about it? Its fast as hell when you can get it. Thats not hype, thats truth.
keyword is underlined. as previously stated it is NOT available everywhere 3G is yet and in my city the coverage ends one block before my house and is spotty before then even. its hype because people become spoiled and don't want anything else but it even tho 3G was serving them fine just days before. same as HD and 3Dtvs bluray and DVD, everything technology basically.
b) Mango update.... buy the phone now and wait until September to gain full functionality that is already available on other platforms (Read: ANDROID!)... That sounds like Hype to me!
only thing Android devices offer is the 4G capabilities ,and super high end specs but yet still doesn't run as fast or stable out of the box as wp7 does even in its current state. lack of multitasking right now isn't much of a problem because my IM apps send me notifications when im not in them, that's kind of multitasking to me. there's also a few Android people that have moved to wp7 right now and aren't regretting it, won't find them on this site of course and when mango does hit it will offer everything Android does and more and do it all better
c) QWERTY phones a dying breed? Really? I tend to disagree. I think that is just your opinion. Do you have any sales data to back this up?
I don't but if u look at all the phones coming up only 2 or 3 at the most will be QWERTY sliders. and last time I checked,ur optimus S isn't one of these so I don't know y u got offended by this


+1 FTW!!! SWYPE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

I didint think I could give up a hard keyboard but after using Swype on my Optimus S I couldnt ever go back to a hard keyboard. I had hard keyboard phones starting with the Apache, then Titan, then Pro, then Pro2. Now I shutter at the thought of a hard keyboard. They just add so much bulk to the phone. But dont get me wrong either, If you need a hard keyboard... Then you need a hard keyboard. My preferences changed as I explored other options.


BTW: This should be moved to Phone Comparison forum. Just sayin....

responses are in bold and I don't know y ur on my case alot lately especially since I was the biggest supporter of ur rom.

Riley 06-10-2011 04:46 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Moved to Phone comparisons. Please discuss away.

Maxx134 06-11-2011 09:10 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Wow you guys who mentioned about the Arrive keyboard,
gave me high expectations,
but when I tried it out at the "BestBuy" store,
it was all shot down with huge dissapointment!

The Arrive keyboard is a fake facsimily of the real TP2 keyboard.
It is a huge single bubble layer membrane that pretends to look like the TP2 with independent buttons.
The and press and feel is shallow and much less useful.
It doesn't come close to the TP2, and is a step back in my opinion.
Also the buttons looked slightly scraped by the sliding tiltscreen.
The only thing that I could say as an excuse,
is that it was a "display model"...

Edit: even though it was a let-down,
I would still prefer it to any Samsung (Epic&Transform) keyboards.

NYC Guy 06-11-2011 03:22 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
I was under the impression that the Arrive keyboard was virtually the same as the TP2. What a bummer!!!

gTen 06-11-2011 03:54 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2113832)
1) 4G is not available everywhere 3G is available yet,3G is still sufficient for alot of things just like HD is.

3g is sufficient a lot of times but 4g is still better..If I have a file thats like 200mb, I would spend hours downloading it, on 4g its minutes.

Quote:

2) it has poor battery optimization in Android out of the box.
Not really, depends...on the Epic we have something called "4G Idle" which allows 4g to idle conserving battery life. (this feature is not on the Evo, nto sure about the shift)..that said when I turn on 4g the web becomes a lot faster and downloads are a lot faster, its not something you need on all the time but it helps when its needed.

Quote:

typing on the touchscreen keyboard on the arrive or any wp7 device is a whole world of difference when compared to the one on the tp2. because the arrive uses a capacitive screen which is more accurate and touch sensitive than the resistive screen on the tp2. the screen keyboard in wp7 is also being regarded as the best and most accurate stock touch keyboard
Not exactly..Resistive screens are more accurate then capacitive screens..the problem is they are too accurate..I mean down to the pixel accurate..not to mention in early days there was no way to do multitouch on them...resistive screens have improved to incorporate multitouch but it was too late to actch up.

eric12341 06-11-2011 09:44 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC Guy (Post 2114478)
I was under the impression that the Arrive keyboard was virtually the same as the TP2. What a bummer!!!

it is, take it from someone who's owned the device for almost 3 mos not from someone who spent 3 minutes on a display model at best buy of all places.

austin420 06-12-2011 12:50 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
so the arrive has individual keys?

Maxx134 06-16-2011 04:39 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Well I hope I am wrong,
but just googling pics you can see two versions of the keyboard.
The real lookong one and the cheapo one I tried..

austin420 06-16-2011 09:29 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
that and it is freaking tiny. its like a phone for the guy on the burger king commercial who is afraid to eat a whopper because it is too big for his tiny hands.
im not sure if it really is, its just the impession i get.

NYC Guy 07-06-2011 01:13 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Well my anniversary has been reached and I have $150 available toward a new phone but I am still undecided. :???:

I would still like an HTC slider model to replace the TP2.

gTen 07-06-2011 01:37 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
The only HTC slider atm is the shift...but considering the time I would wait on a dual core model...though it may be a wait till January...

Atm the only slider thats been announced is the Epic 2...but its not HTC and not a dual core either...1.2ghz single core...

chong67 07-09-2011 12:45 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Once you go 3D, you will never go black.

Get this PHONE!

Carla 07-09-2011 01:03 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2125914)
Once you go 3D, you will never go black.

LFMAO! Really?

DavidinCT 07-10-2011 12:07 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Wow, Heated battle here. Eric will defend Windows Phone 7 like I would. Android fanboys will do the same.

To the OP. I'll agree with Eric on a lot of stuff he said. 4G is only good if your in a area that has really good coverage AND the battery life on 4G devices (what ever carrier your on) is VERY questionable now(i've seen Sprint 4G phones in action).

QWERTY keyboards are a preference, try the models your looking at and find out what you like better.

Your options are Windows Phone 7 or Android. They both have their good and bad things.

Android can be very, very customizable but, has some major perfomance flaws. Also in the marketplace, tons of "crap" apps to sort through to get to the good ones.

Windows Phone 7, Very Rock solid (something you didn't get off your TP2) rebuilt from the ground up. Very limited on custimization but, it makes up for it in peformance. Application market as some "crap" but, over all a better quality applications in the marketplace.

We'll hear 2-3 different stories here, Android people will claim it's the best, Windows Phone 7 people will do the same. I'm shocked we have not seen a iPhoney user in this mix.

With that being said, take what you have learned here, do a little research to find out of the Android or WP7 is best for you, the go into your local store and test them for yourself.

If you still are unsure, check the return policy, most have 15-30 day return, so check on that, if your leaning towards something, take it home, live with it for 2 weeks if you hate it, return it.

Good luck on your quest.

eric12341 07-10-2011 05:06 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2125914)
Once you go 3D, you will never go black.

Get this PHONE!

@chong67 don't u mean back? and yes people have went back take a look at this


http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-evo-3d...hreat-htc.html

piscesjoey 07-10-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2125914)
Once you go 3D, you will never go black.

Get this PHONE!

I'm not so sure bout that Chong lol, @OP, closest phone to what you're asking for is the Shift or Epic. I would go to a Sprint store and compare both phones, then make a decision from there. Also, if you can afford so, I would just look on Craigslist or bargain trader thread here and try to find one for maybe 200-300 bucks. Save your upgrade for something more worthy that will satisfy you for the next two years.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

CMeys 08-22-2011 05:09 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
I am also in the position of looking for a replacement for the Sprint TP2.

I've had the Touch Pro 2 almost since it came out, and I'm now eligible for an upgrade.

I have no idea where to go from here. Before the TP2 I had the Touch, and before that also a Windows phone.

I am willing to consider Android now. I am also willing to pay up to $200 after rebate for the right phone (though of course I'd prefer not to pay more than I need to).

I do not want a physical keyboard, and prefer a phone without one. Other than that, I need functions along the lines of what the TP2 has (but must not be laggy like the TP2).

It is important for me to be able to synch contacts & appointments between the phone and MS Outlook 2003 (Win 7). Can this even been done on an Android phone?

The other feature very important to me is ability to have incoming calls announced of BT (I presently use a hack to get that to work on the TP2) and voice dialing over BT.

Also, I now I have a grandfathered plan where I pay nothing for data -- I realize any new smartphone will require a data plan, but I'd prefer not to pay more than I have to for one.

What would be the best new phone for me (I can wait a couple of months too if there's something better coming out soon)?

Thanks.

CMeys 08-22-2011 05:39 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
It is also important for me to be able to do some casual tethering (like a couple times a year).

gTen 08-22-2011 05:53 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Yes, outlook sync is possible, tethering is possible...I think bluetooth thing is possible too...

For Android phones you must be on the new everything plan + an extra $10 premium data fee..only 1 android phone is excluded from the premium data fee which is the Samsung Replenish.

Unless you have a sero and plan to move to sero premium, then only the 4g phones have $10 fee..

As for best upcoming phone SGS 2...

CMeys 08-22-2011 05:59 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Not on Sero. I've got an old fashioned plan which would need to be switched to a new everything plan plus the $10 per month data.

When is the SGS 2 supposed to be available?

And what is the best thing available now (no physical keyboard) for my needs?

Thanks.

gTen 08-22-2011 07:23 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMeys (Post 2139897)
Not on Sero. I've got an old fashioned plan which would need to be switched to a new everything plan plus the $10 per month data.

When is the SGS 2 supposed to be available?

And what is the best thing available now (no physical keyboard) for my needs?

Thanks.

Sometime is September..you needs generally can even be fulfilled by single core phones. But if you want latest and greatest currently the 2 flagship phones on sprint is Evo 3D and Motorola Photon...

IF your the type of person who wants updates the quickest there is the Nexus S 4G but it is a single core phone.

CMeys 08-22-2011 07:29 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
What does "single core phone" mean? I have no familiarity with anything but Windows phones. Thanks.

gTen 08-22-2011 07:49 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMeys (Post 2139916)
What does "single core phone" mean? I have no familiarity with anything but Windows phones. Thanks.

Ok, you know how computers have dual core, quad core..well before this year, all phones were single core phones (windows, android you name it all of them)..come this year there is dual core phones..

Your phones have something called a CPU that handles all the processing..on a single core phone you have 1 cpu with 1 core and it handles data by prioritizing and handling instructions 1 by 1. On a dual core phone, you have 2 cores which split the processing load in between themselves.

CMeys 08-22-2011 07:54 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Got it. I'm leaning towards the Evo 3D. Just hate to have to change my plan for it. THanks for your help.

CMeys 08-22-2011 07:58 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Sorry, meant the Evo 4G.

gTen 08-22-2011 08:12 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMeys (Post 2139922)
Sorry, meant the Evo 4G.

Evo 4g is last years single core model..it will be discontinued by sprint soon but it will have updates via the community. But you probably could get it fairly cheap.

CMeys 08-22-2011 08:15 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
What would be the best dual core or better phone already out then -- Evo 3D or something else? Thanks.

gTen 08-22-2011 09:57 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMeys (Post 2139925)
What would be the best dual core or better phone already out then -- Evo 3D or something else? Thanks.

Well each has their ups and downs..Evo 3d has a more powerful processor but has slower ram. Evo 3d also has a lot of bloatware with the sense ui so if you want lag free experience you gotta root it and get rid of sense. Evo 3d will also probably have bigger community then the photon 4g. Photon 4g has a better camera and from what people are saying better reception. (unless htc fixed the reception)

Its all a mater of give and take..keep in mind you have 30days to swap your phone if you don't like it.

eric12341 08-22-2011 10:31 PM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
I'll recommend the HTC arrive, its wp7 and its not dual core but with how fast it performs u won't even notice. and it does almost everything ur looking for (outlook sync is done indirectly via the cloud tho and tethering needs an unlock and hack.) mango is also due out any moment now and it will bring alot of features to wp7, there's also a beta out that's amazing.

CMeys 08-23-2011 09:05 AM

Re: What should I replace my Sprint TP2 with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2139960)
Well each has their ups and downs..Evo 3d has a more powerful processor but has slower ram. Evo 3d also has a lot of bloatware with the sense ui so if you want lag free experience you gotta root it and get rid of sense. Evo 3d will also probably have bigger community then the photon 4g. Photon 4g has a better camera and from what people are saying better reception. (unless htc fixed the reception)

Its all a mater of give and take..keep in mind you have 30days to swap your phone if you don't like it.

Thank you. I'm not scared of rooting -- I've flashed my WM phones many times. Doesn't seem particularly more complicated. I really don't care about the camera at all (rarely use it). Reception could be an issue. I didn't look at the Photon at all, but I'll do that.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:23 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2012 - PPCGeeks.com


Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0