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I'm actually happy with the Mogul.
It's not my first pocket pc, so I have that experience, but it is my first pocketpc/phone combo.

I looked at the Touch, and even though it does have more memory and is slimmer, the keyboard and the wifi on the Mogul will have me keeping the mogul for a while.

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I'm in the same boat as cybermonkey... the mogul was the succsessor to the 6700 so it was the next ppc phone that i made the switch to. It built upon all of the things that the 6700 got right, and added even more new improvements on top of that. YES memory management can be a pain at times but no matter how you slice it, it's better than it was on the 6700. the touch is nice but i still need the hard button keyboard, and the extra device buttons that the mogul gives you. the mogul has 16 and the touch has like 5... i HATE fingerprints on my screen....

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Every so often I get eh urge to compare the two phones.
I love the Mogul, have been using. Not sure if I would like the Touch or not.
Everybody on here has good things to say about both, and both phones have their pros and cons.
To me the pros and cons are:
MOGUL
pros - slide out keyboard, have been using it so I know how it operates, seems to be "unbrickable" so far, rev A, GPS, reps at the SPrint store seem to love it
Cons - it's kinda thick, screen is not flush

TOUCH
pros - more memory, thin, flush screen
cons - no slideout keyboard, not sure exaclty how it operates, not fond of the CUBE (used the cube install instructions that have been posted all over the place here), reps at the Sprint store actually recommend not getting

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most of the sprint employees are effing expert IDIOTS. Cube is also not a must, but once customized, is very useful, and you only start to appeciate it if your actually using it...when i first saw it, i said "thats corny" but its actually very very useful and looks very very good too. The graphics are very fluid, what you see on tv doesnt do them justice,

but other than that, yes, both of them are great phones. It all boils down to what the user wants and needs

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What type of customizing can be done with the cube on the TOUCH?

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from what i hear, the cube doesnt work all that well on the mogul. Search for macflo, iFade or iCube, or vistacube, and youll see what im talking about, im using iCube, it looks so much better and is highly customizable

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I'll check those other ones out.
Right now I am using the spb Mobile Shell, it's not too bad. Trying to decide if I like that or iFonz better. So far it's the Mobile Shell that's winning out.

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not to hijack the thread, but iFonz just plain sucks to me. I went ahead and bought wisbar advance3 and wisbar desktop, and on the touch(because of all of the free memory), torx's iphone theme is gorgeous and runs flawlessly. No lockups, hangs, nothing. It makes iFonz look like rubbish. Another +1 for the Touch, you dont know what its like to have 70+ megs of ram available until you have tried it yourself. As a moguler, I swore by task managers and such to manage memory, heres the thing....you DONT HAVE TO manage memory on the touch. Even with wad and wa3 running and everything else in the background, it still doesnt lag or anything, and wad and wa3 are memory HOGS

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torx's iphone theme. I will have to try to find that one and see if I like it.

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Thanks, I will have to reinstall wisbar stuff when I get home tonight and try it out.

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Well, I just called the Sprint store. They informed me that I would be able to take my Mogul in and exchange it for a Touch if I desired to.
Now I just gotta make that decision. Then comes the question, if I end up not liking the Touch, would I be able to take that one in and exchange it back for the Mogul.

What I need to do is try to find a way to get hooked up with a Touch for 2-3 weeks to try it, that way if I don't like it I will still have my mogul all configured and loaded with what I like on it.

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what exactly did you say to them to get them to allow you to exchange it?

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Called them and asked them what their policy was for exchanges. Lady said, needs to have all item in the box (which I still have of course), needs to be in the same condition as when sold easily done), and the phone needs to be in "like new condition" with no damage. It was got back on March 21 (less than 30 days, and it's still looks frash out of the box).

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yeah sprint has a 30 return policy on new phones, but i think your only allowed one exchange within that 30 days. Dude, i swore I would never get rid of my mogul, and then switched to the touch, and it took some time to adjust to not having a keyboard and hardkeys, but now i wish I would have made the move a LONG time ago. Like i said before, with the extra memory, it makes everything sooooo much more stable, and allows you to run wisbar with no memory issues(unlike the mogul), im saying that cuz i know your a wisbar freak from talking to you. You will be sacrificing wifi, and GPS and rev.a for a while, until the Touch rom comes out, but youll be gaining something that feels much more like a phone than a box, and that is just as capable as the mogul.

The ball is your court, dont let me talk you into getting a touch, but seriously i couldnt be happier with this thing....and touchpal actually works just as good if not better as the moguls hard kb. it takes some time to figure out the shortcuts and such, and you can teach it words as you go a long. I guarantee after a week youll love touchpal and wont miss your hard kb one bit.

In all seriousness, Nautica, you thinkin about switching or somin?

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if i took my phone in for servicing and they offered to swap me i'd have to give it serious thought... but not until the touch gets rev a and gps.

here's another thing that concerns me though... if i were to get a touch i dont see nearly the same level of ROM chefing for the touch as i do for the mogul. n2c had a touch rom but it doesnt appear that he updates builds for it as often as for the mogul build. i think the same can be said across the board for the other a-list chefs as well... why arent they as active on it? Just an observation i've notice...

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That's the thing about the WiFi, rev A, and GPS. I find myself RARELY using the WiFi, rev A - I am in an area that just does not get full use of that speed in the first place, and the GPS I have a Pioneer GPS unit in my car, so the only GPS use I would utilize would be if I was out and about with somebody in their vehicle and we needed GPS needs.
At this point I am mostly concerned with the on screen keyboard on the Touch, the Cube (not sure how much it can be customized), and all the stuff I currently have on my Mogul working on the Touch without having to buy new copies of some of them.

ANd as far was Wisbar, I had a copy of that way back on my Compaq iPaq (it was free then) and I do love it, hell I bought the current version with no hesitation, cause of my experience with an old version of it back in the day.

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I am leary on the non-official ROMS. SOmething I dont' like to take the risk of breaking the phone, and all the disclaimers say "This may ruin your phone".
Now if somebody made a custom ROM, garenteed it would work and would actually compensate for a ruined phone caused by their ROM, then I would probably use that custom ROM, if it met my needs.

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depends too much on the competence of the ROM maker, but also the competence of the person putting the ROM on their device.... if a noob flubs just one regedit they can easily put their phone out of commision, that's why the disclaimer is needed. It's basically saying if you dont know what you're doing, dont bother loading this.

This is also why they would'nt be able to give a guarantee or monetary compensation because 1 people do not read nor follow instructions and 2 because other people would purposely brick or ruin a unit to cash in on the guarantee.

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sadly that is very true.

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to answer your question, the reason why they DONT have many is because, simply put Naut, you dont need them. Seriously, the touch is very very fast out of the box. Comparable to a custom rom on the mogul. The only reason people really do it on the touch is to customize the extROM. (think UC) There just isnt a need for custom roms on the touch. Why are there so many for the mogul? Because we are constantly looking for ways to improve its performance because of the absense of operating ram.

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I have both and i can care less about the comparisons as long as they have the same chipset, but if i was to keep my mogul stock as it was out the box, then there wouldn't be any need for me to put all the stuff i have on the today screen like the home plugin, call sms blocker, etc.

also, this is another reason why i don't trust my mogul with custom roms at all with all the issues i have had with them which is why i have GUINEA PIGS.

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Success100, you were right about the Touch KeyPad. It's like using "old school" key pad on a regular cell phone.
It will make it easier to txt while in my "human transport vehicle"

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I ordered a Touch, customized the hell out of it, and did the usual upgrades. After that the phone would not register calls in sleep mode; 100% battery, 30% battery same thing over and over. This continued for days until I realized that I should stick to the Mogul. The Touch has the potential, just not for me. I recomend the Mogul, especially if you used to relying on a hard keyboard.

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ummm...ok...

perhaps you should go to the MOGUL FORUMS THEN!!!

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Oh sorry Champ, would you care to walk me over there?

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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44



oh shid dude! i thought this was the convertz thread in off topic, sorry, ii wouldnt have said that if I realized it was the mogul vs touch thread.

my apologies fam

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"Kid?" I was probably drinking beer while you were still in diapers. Thanks for the link!

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Thas right, now YOU go back where YOU belong and take your sorry touchy-feely with ya!:twisted::evil4::mrgreen: We dont play that in the PHONE COMPARISON forums either!!

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I had the Mogul and switched to the Touch. I just switched back to the Mogul because I can't stand the touchscreen keyboards. My fingers always seem to touch the wrong letters when texting...even if I calibrate the screen with my finger rather than the stylus.

I will keep my Mogul until the new HTC Raphael comes out later this year. Just the 640x480 resolution screen on that beast will make me switch.