INC versus X
 

I was shocked to find nobody else has started this but it was inevitable...

So I began my life on this site over on the imagio side of things. The imagio wasn't bad, but after my fourth replacement I went to the INC. After ordering it on 6/4, I finally got it on 7/3. So far, I absolutely love everything about it. That being said, the droid X definitely has my attention. I've read a number of reviews and it seems like the majority of the comparisons I've read thus far break it down to screen size, HD video (who cares), three mic's, and a "dedicated" GPU. The only thing that really has my attention is the GPU. While I would like to hear what you guys think, here is the heart of the issue: Will having the GPU amount to a hill of beans when it comes to performance?

Obviously, my first inclination is that of course it will. After thinking about it though, it raises the question as to if there is any software out there or soon-to-be that would benefit from it? I can't imagine how anything could run "faster" on the X than it would on the INC. The web is obscenely fast, sense is amazing, etc. So is the GPU the first in a new breed of phones, or is this something that will take years before we see anyone truly utilizing it? If the consensus is that the non-GPU phones are a dying breed, then I may jump ship come Thursday. If it's just hardware that'll be fun to brag about but never used then I'm going to stick with the INC.

All this comes down to the fact that I made a mistake buying the imagio. It was a dying breed of phone. I don't want to see my lovely $200 INC being the $49 VZW special in 3 mths while the X remains the flagship. I'd like to at least be on the top of the heap until late fall...:bs:

Debate on...

Re: INC versus X
 

The Droid X has the same encrypted bootloader as the milestone. Deal breaker for me.

Re: INC versus X
 

Moved to Phone Comparison :)

A good place to look for these types of discussion BTW.

Re: INC versus X
 

Does an encrypted boot loader mean no rooting or does it simply make it harder to do?

Re: INC versus X
 

I think you can root and get super access but you can't load custom roms (similar to the milestone)

Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

I'm reaching the 2 year mark with my Touch Pro which has been a great phone for me. For the first year I used the SSK 2 (6.1 WM) ROM and then upgraded to SSK 3 (6.5 WM). The apps I use a lot are Pocket Informant, TomTom 7, Note2Self, Audible and Opera Mini 5 in addition to the built in ones. I also replaced the dialer with PhonEx 2.2 just to have a more finger friendly dialing experience.

I help small businesses deploy handhelds so from time to time I get to use blackberries and iPhones for a few days. I've only owned Treos and HTC sliders so this will be the first time using on screen keyboard. I found landscape typing on the Incredible to be just as easy as my Touch Pro physical keyboard. For years I've reworked WM 5 and 6 phones to be as finger oriented as possible. Before the iPhone had come out I had decided that Microsoft needed to ditch the stylus and ancient Win CE style input forms. I downloaded any app that took WM in that direction.

The advent of the iPhone was frustrating to me because ATT's network doesn't cut it for the coverage I require (can't be dropping calls during delicate server support calls). I prefer Microsoft's business model to Apple's and the Apple marketing hype and the droves of sheeple that follow it turn me off. But...they did get the smartphone almost exactly right. All of us on these forums had been telling Microsoft (well each other, MS should have been listening) for years what they needed to do.

I had fun customizing the Windows Mobile phones but it was mostly out of desperation that I got into it. I'm not waiting for WM7 because it sounds like MS has iPhonitis. Android appeals to me as an open platform like what we're used to with pre-WM7 Windows Mobile.

Anyone else deciding on Droid X vs Incredible as replacement for TP?

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

Yep, I'm in a similar boat. Honestly, the droid x seems to beat out the incredible in almost every area as far as the specs are concerned. Battery life is advertised as being significantly better on the droid x, which is definitely a plus. The only thing that draws me more toward the incredible is my loyalty to HTC. They have always made a great product, and they are a great company.

Dunno which way I will go, but either way, I'm going to be waiting a while to see how the first run of droid x's go over with the public. I'm picking up an Eris to use in the meantime, which I will be selling to help fund the purchase of the droid x / incredible.

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

For this reason I would stay away from the Droid X.

Seems like a great device, but it sounds like Motorola & IBM have crippled it from any ROM modifications.

Stick with HTC would be my recommendation.

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

i think you will see that beat in short order. i know the guys here and over at XDA will have it figured out as soon as they can. they will find a way to make new "roms" "approved" or find a way around it.

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

I've always pay for Assurion mostly in case I need a replacement due to catastrophic damage so I don't really worry too much about build quality. I agree that HTC quality control should be improved. One issue is once you go into the Assurion replacement you are getting refurbs - I've had a few develop very strange problems like the buttons not working. On the other hand I have some HTC brand loyalty because they have provided the best Windows Mobile phones by far.

I'm going to let other people put the Droid X through its paces for at least a month. I also need to hold it in my hand to make sure I like the form factor. I've spent a day with the Incredible and thought it was excellent in every respect. I didn't get a chance to use it in a fringe reception area though. I thought the touch screen was equally responsive as the iPhone's but better visually.

I do need to root the phone so I guess that is a vote for the Incredible.

Over the years Motorola's phone software has been abysmal whereas HTC has down wonders with WM6.x athough reviews claim the overall user experience on both phones is almost indistinguishable.

I'm definitely leaning toward the Incredible.

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

Toss my card into the Droid X hat. The keyboard isn't as good as the Incredible, but aside from that the Droid X wins. And with if you use the swype keyboard it negates that down side. For the guy who said HTC makes great products... Have you ever read these forums before???

HTC likes to release a device, then move on to a new one. Bugs and fixes will be done in the new model... lol Seriously I doubt it's in writing but it wouldn't surprise me if that was the In-house business motto.

When you hold a Droid X in your hand, it just feels solid compared to the Incredible. Now I think the Incredible is a quality device, but poor craftsmanship by HTC shows in the peeling screens of their newest beast the HTC EVO. They also buy a lot of their parts from other phone makers, that's why the Incredible and EVO are on back-order. Their short-sightedness was to rely on a competitor to supply their main phone component. Now you have Evo and Incredible owners that have to wait 4+ weeks for a replacement phone when theirs breaks.

Also consider, the Droid X uses Gorilla Glass just like the Moto Droid. This glass is shatter and scratch resistant, unlike the Incredible. I've had several friends replace their Incredibles due to shattered front glass and camera lens glass from falls off a desk not more than 3ft off the ground on office carpet.

All in all I went with the Droid X because I could get it 1 week faster than my Incredible that I waited a month for on back-order. Now that HTC has announced they will be switching from the Amoled screens, I'm glad I made the switch. Also now that I have held the Droid X in my hands and felt how solid it is there is no regret in my choice.

I'd mull over the fact that the Droid X has HDMI out, and 720p video recording right now. Yes there is rumor the Incredible is getting 720p, but how long do you have to wait if it's true. Finally look at Motorola's track record for sticking to products. I had a Moto Q9c that got regular updates for 2 years. With HTC you get "End of product life cycle" after 1 year tops.

Edit: Today I laid my Touch Pro to rest. Good luck to you all, and hopefully you find a phone you love no matter what you choose.

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

Thanks to CarlaDarla - the discussion belongs here in phone comparisons. The post by eXcali now has me leaning towards the Droid X. I only mentioned that I thought HTC makes the best Windows Mobile phones because of form factor, nice screens, ability to upgrade ROM etc rather than build quality. Plus I'm on Verizon - I can only think of Treo or Samsung as alternative WM phones anyway (not sure why I never considered MotoQ - was it because there was no ROM upgrading?)

I like the idea of the larger screen - I gave up on managing servers remotely with the TP because the Remote Desktop was too small to view. What's funny is one office where I work regularly had one of those lamps with the big magnifying glass and I could use Remote Desktop using that. Reminds me of the computers in the movie Brazil :)

I like the idea of better battery life, more durable screen and better availability. ExCali, you're the first person I've communicated that moved from TP to Droid X, thanks for your input.

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One more comment. I'm not sure I will be motivated to do ROM upgrades on an Incredible or Droid X. I don't think they're crippled like the TP was and what would be added by an unofficial ROM? Look forward to any comments on this.

Re: INC versus X
 

I asked the same question on the TP forum and Carla moved it here. I made a statement on my thread that I'm not sure why I would upgrade the ROM on the INC or X. I did it on the Treo, 6700 and TP because the phone was almost unusable without ROM upgrades. Haven't used an X yet but the INC exceeded my wildest hopes in usability and performance. I do want to be able to get root access but looking for what improvements might be expected with unofficial ROM upgrades.

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

Good thread and good posts. I'm still no closer to a decision though! I think I will get whichever one I can get sooner, lol.

Re: Moving on from TP to Android - deciding on Droid X vs. Incredible
 

I made up my mind and ordered the Droid X last week. Now I find out the Fascinate is coming around the time they say they can ship the Droid X. Did a bunch of research this weekend. The pros for the Fascinate are that I can use other ROMs, has smaller but more vibrant screen, theoretically uses 10-15% less battery, 3D performance off the charts. Cons for Fascinate are build quality not as good as Droid X (personal opinion based on using Captivate - can't back that up), smaller screen, less built in app memory and GPS apparently isn't working.