I need some updated opinions on the PRE

[jjday7]

ok I know most of you know that best buy had the pre on sale for $99.00 due to the glitch. I called a store and got them to hold one for me till wednesday at that price. I know the girl so she did it for me.

My question is I have a diamond and it's doing it's job pretty good but I really don't want to miss out on the pre at that price. I have a hard time passing up a good deal

What I need to know is
1. what is your opinion on your pre if you have had it for a while?
2. if you could do it all over, would you have bought it?
3. are all these things like oreo twisting and bugs happening to everyone?4. why are best buy reps telling me they are getting tons of returns?
5. do you guys think a update will come to enable video?

I just need a little insight because I have to switch from SERO to get this phone so I really don't want to get stuck with a higher costing plan and a phone I don't like.

Any help would be appreciated.

[drift365]

I dont have one, but from what ive hear/seen, it is simply amazing. If i could have gotten one instead of my iphone, i think that i would have. Yes, the oreo twisting happens to many of them, but if you call palm usually they send you a new one. There should be a thread about oreo twisting here somewhere.

Cheers and good luck,

Matt

[drift365]

heres some more info: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...highlight=oreo

this one has a LOT of info: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...highlight=oreo

[Peteman100]

I just got one and I love it! My whole family has switched over. There are some defects since its such a new phone, but that's what the BB 30-day return policy is for. If yours has issues, just swap it out for a new one later. And most analysts have pegged the return rate somewhere around 3%, which is quite good for a brand new smartphone. Go to a store and play with it for a while. If you can deal with the smallish keyboard and you are they type of user who can deal with so-so battery life, you really won't be disappointed!

As an ex senior admin in another ppc site I know exactly what I left and what I got into, but to answer your questions...

1. I have had it for a few days and i love everything about it. The look and feel as well as how well it does everything

2. I ca*me from a touch pro and, yes I'd do it over

3. I saw a lot of complaints about these issues that worried me, but I saw that later batches came with better and more solid build quality. I specifically asked for the last ones they received to ensure that. And its rock solid btw.

4.Best but must be suffering from the poor quality of the first batches so make sure you get the latest build date to avoid issues

5. Yes and not over two years like apple. Palm and the developer community really do work, they already have terthering, root (jailbreaking) and even homescreen widgets on the homescreen, not to mention more homebrewed apps than the appstore atm

[BenC]

Factors to consider not mentioned above: the absence of device based business related applications. No word processing, no spread sheet and a few other deficiencies. What you should consider doing is making a list of what you want to accomplish with a device and then go from there. There is the Classic application from Motion Apps; however, it does not support multitaskking (i.e., you cannot have two Classic cards open at the same time). Due to a lack of device based business applications and the inability of Classic to support more than one card at a time, the Pre is not ready for my use.

[jjday7]

first thanks for the input guys. I find myself using my phone more for web and multimedia use overall. the business aspect would be great to have but I hardly ever use word or excel unless someone sends me that type of document

I have had a lot of phones and notice all new phones to the market are loaded with small issues. I can live with most but hardware issues top the list in frustrations. I had the touch when it first came out and went through 3 of those, touch pro 4, diamond 1 and most stable. maybe I was lucky with that one.

at 100 it might just be worth it. I might just get the best buy coverage for 9.99 and that covers everything accept lost and stolen. I have one more day to think so please keep giving input. this will not only help me but all the others trying to make the decision.

maybe I am just spoiled by windows and all the apps available. I hope the app store starts moving pretty fast.

[sanmanc]

Originally Posted by jjday7

maybe I am just spoiled by windows and all the apps available. I hope the app store starts moving pretty fast.

I don't mean to repeat it but WebOS is still in its infancy and more and more homebrew apps are popping out almost everyday. The app store I'm sure will have hundreds of apps by this time next year.

I have had my Pre 4 days after launch day and I don't regret it one bit. I have used WinMo the Treo 650 and still use it today for work but for personal I dropped my Treo 800 in favor of the Pre. The only gripe I have is the poor reception I tend to get at home.

As for the word processing portion it does come with DocsToGo but you can only view documents and not edit them. No biggie for me since that's all I need when I'm mobile.

For $99 its well worth it IMHO.

[alan7467]

I only got my Pre on Sunday (got in on the $99 best buy mistake), but am really enjoying it so far. Main thing I like is the multitasking abilities and overall speed of the device. I know WinMO can do this as well, but thanks to the Pre's fantastic hardware (processor) and WebOS's handling of the "cards" the user experience is far superior IMHO. I'm also absolutely loving the launcher and some of the apps like Pandora.

My main concern with this phone right now is the battery. Third day in my battery was pretty much dead after 10 hours off charger (an improvement over the day before, which took only 9 hours for the battery to hit below 10%). I texted a bit, browsed the web for less than an hour and made few phone calls. I'm really hoping that with a couple more charge cycles things improve. If not I'll try out a larger capacity battery and hope for the best. This is certainly one of those YMMV things though. I really think the radio software could use some updating here. Coming from a Sprint Touch Diamond running telus radio, I'm noticing some funky behavior in limited coverage areas. The phone likes to go into roaming or 1x mode way more often than my Diamond did. It also seems to take much longer to snap out of it. I've actually had to turn flight mode on and off a couple of times to get it to go back to 3G. I'm sure this has a negative impact on battery life, but for the most part I see the biggest drain when using data in any way. Again, I'll need to calibrate the battery a bit more to see how things shake out here.

[jjday7]

Originally Posted by alan7467

I only got my Pre on Sunday (got in on the $99 best buy mistake), but am really enjoying it so far. Main thing I like is the multitasking abilities and overall speed of the device. I know WinMO can do this as well, but thanks to the Pre's fantastic hardware (processor) and WebOS's handling of the "cards" the user experience is far superior IMHO. I'm also absolutely loving the launcher and some of the apps like Pandora.

My main concern with this phone right now is the battery. Third day in my battery was pretty much dead after 10 hours off charger (an improvement over the day before, which took only 9 hours for the battery to hit below 10%). I texted a bit, browsed the web for less than an hour and made few phone calls. I'm really hoping that with a couple more charge cycles things improve. If not I'll try out a larger capacity battery and hope for the best. This is certainly one of those YMMV things though. I really think the radio software could use some updating here. Coming from a Sprint Touch Diamond running telus radio, I'm noticing some funky behavior in limited coverage areas. The phone likes to go into roaming or 1x mode way more often than my Diamond did. It also seems to take much longer to snap out of it. I've actually had to turn flight mode on and off a couple of times to get it to go back to 3G. I'm sure this has a negative impact on battery life, but for the most part I see the biggest drain when using data in any way. Again, I'll need to calibrate the battery a bit more to see how things shake out here.

What I do to conserve is turn off gps, and location settings. This will really help. Some will think well why is it on the phone if I can't use it.
Well, what this does is causes you to manually turn it on. When the app opens it will ask for confirmation that you want to turn on the service.

Second I have learned that if you type ##3836# you can change the phone to 1x mode. This will double your battery life and you can still get calls and text. This just turns off EVDO. I do a good amount of web surfing, but when I am going to really be using it long I will go to the mobile version of the site and I will just surf that way. Too bad ppcgeeks doesn't have a mobile site but there are some good ones out there. I don't know if I can't point them out though.

Originally Posted by tx_dbs_tx

Hey jjday7, You mentioned you mostly use your phone for multimedia and I wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the Palm Pre's video playing capabilities. The Pre has an awesome video player that will play converted MP4 DVD rips at 30fps @ 1024kpbs with absolutely NOOOO lag or frame skipping! Go ahead and give it a try and you will be veeeerry impressed. No other smartphone can play videos like the Palm Pre, not even the Touch Pro 2 when it comes out. Watching full length movies in the highest conversion quality with the Palm Pre is absolutely the BEST. I'm not missing my Touch Pro either, I may go ahead and sell it because I don't see myself going back to it.

thanks for the tip. I haven't had a chance to try the video player yet because I am still trying to get used to the phone and putting homebrews on it. I have it all figured out now though. Pandora is awesome on this too.