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That's a great point to make....regardless of the the device, the phone function should be flawless!

late,
Coz

Re: Thinking About Making Move to Pre instead of TP2 Help me Decide
 

Thanks guys, i'm going to the store today and getting my pre :D! I played with one yesterday... it's too slick not to get. I'll keep my TP the new TP is just a glorified version of what I already own. not worth using an upgrade on! Thanks again!

David

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I agree the Mogul to the Touch Pro was a much bigger upgrade than Touch Pro to Pro 2.

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My last 5 smartphones before I got my palm pre were windows mobile devices and I can't believe I stood how crap they are for so long. I've always believed that the only way a device with a touchscreen based UI will be successful is if the UI is easy to use and intuitive. Palm's WebOS is all of those things on top of being very elegant and easy on the eyes - things like the card system are one of the "duh" concepts that seem so obviously great when you're using it. I always felt like the WM devices I had (especially my mogul, touch, touch pro, diamond) were more about making the UI look pretty than actually being functional and easy to use. Yes there have been some quality control issues with the slider and such with the pre - but no more than with any other HTC phone I've had. That and the fact that the phone has not frozen or crashed ONCE in the week and a half I've owned it. I love WM phones flexibility, but seriously it is not worth the constant pain and aggravation of a buggy crappy OS. Using the Palm Pre after winmo phones is like running after suddenly loosing 100 extra lbs - the user experience is transparent, which is why I think it's going to be a hit for Palm.

Re: Thinking About Making Move to Pre instead of TP2 Help me Decide
 

amen to that.....

WM7 team are you writing this down?????

Re: Thinking About Making Move to Pre instead of TP2 Help me Decide
 

I hope WM7 is a complete overhaul, and they design the UI from the ground up to use Capacitive screens and everything meant to be done with your fingers and not a stylus. Beyond that stability is key. It's harder to control stability when you don't control the hardware. Hence why the iPhone/mobile osx, and mac/osx platform has worked well for apple.

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I played with a Pre on launch day and really liked WebOS, and the phone overall. My biggest concerns are the keyboard (not sure if I could get used to it) and above all build quality of the phone. I've been reading some really bad things over on precentral.com about screens cracking for no good reason and sliders becoming sloppy eventually making the phone reset in worst case scenarios. These could of course just be rarities in comparison to all the people without problems. I just find it troubling how many are reporting issues at precentral considering they're just a small percentage of the Pre community.

However, with all this said I'm still thinking about getting the phone. Which speaks pretty highly of the device (or poorly of WinMO ;) ).

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This particular problem is caused by the battery casing area in some units being slightly too large and the battery jarring when the slider is closed too hard.

I have this problem on my current unit and it is fixable by putting a couple layers of electrical tape on the end of your battery to make it more snug. Probably should just be a temporary fix while you go for a replacement if you have this problem, though.

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To chime in, I got a Pre yesterday to replace my TouchPro. The best way I can explain this is on the TP I spent hours/days/weeks flashing, tweaking, etc trying to get it to work exactly right. The Pre does this out of the box and so much better.

When you get to play with one pull up the camera on the Pre & the camera on your TouchPro. Just do that and see the difference.

I actually wish some of the OS stuff was on my laptop...being able to just "throw" an app off the screen when you are done....it just works.

The app store is very lacking right now, this is a risk I will take.

Did you see it sync's with itunes? I guess most folks don't care about this but I am super lazy when it comes to music. The fact that I don't have to copy files or use another app to manage music on this phone was a huge plus for me also.

The keyboard is not as good as the TP...no denying that *but* it has a dedicated @ and "." key. This makes me so happy. They keys are much bigger than on the Palm Centro so don't judge from that you really have to use one. I have pretty big hands and I'm getting along with this keyboard fine so far.

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Yea dude but how many complaints there been about winmo phones? and we all still took the risk. I don't have a Pre yet but im getting one soon. The problem with winmo phones are, it takes too much time tweaking and flashing to get it to a decent state. When we shouldn't have to do all that, i'm starting college soon, and I don't have the time to be flashing and tweaking no more lol, need something that works out of the box.

Also the IPhones app store was even more limited when it released, so i'm sure Palm will deliver with apps. They stated they are going to re make most of there old apps, witch is many. So I see light,

[Start rant]
getting annoyed with all the IPhone talk recently, I have nothing against Apple, but the fanboys annoy me. Its like they take everything Apple does and big it up. 1st IPhone 3.0 update, the update that gives you things that should of been there in the beginning (notifications, MMS, Copy & Paste). Apple fanboys are going crazy over it, when they should be saying "About ******* Time". Then the IPhone 3GS, a very minor upgrade that I find pointless.

[End rant]

Glad Palm came out with almost everything day 1, thats how it should be. Just add video and fix that battery life bug (although coming from TP we find this to not be a big deal) and we are all set, after that just focus on Apps :).

Kudos to Palm, and to state again I have nothing against Apple (Love my touch) just the fanboys.