Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

A finding by istartedsomething.com leads us to the possibility that Windows Mobile 7 is very close to release with hardware certifications being handed out...

http://www.istartedsomething.com/200...dows-mobile-7/

Since we know Windows Mobile 7 won't be upgradable (due to leaked advances like Tegra level 3D support) and the release is less than a year away (MS claims early 2010 still)...

I'm not feeling bad that I'm skipping the TP2 for something a little better coming soon... What are you thoughts on this tidbit?

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

If it's that close (and I doubt it), then yes, waiting makes sense to me too.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Seems to me that M$ should be aware of how late to the game they are.

I think its somewhat critical that they get WM7 out before the next iphone. I'm predicting June 2010 as a target date. Once it gets delayed, I'm thinking late Q3 or Q4 2010.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

you would think, but it seems like every time we predict when something is going to come out you have to add like 6 months to a year to when it actually comes out.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

I think tpro 2 will get the windows mobile 7 upgrade
htc has literally flagshipped as well as stated the new iteration was upgradable to windows 7

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

thats weird because everything I hear about the required hardware specs for wm7 shows the pro2 can't get it.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

here's a solution: pay full price for a tp2 when it comes out and then when the new winmo 7 device come out, use your upgrade. that's what i am going to do!!!

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

or keep your tp1 that has the same specs as the tp2, or keep my diamond, spend the $500 on rent or sushi (i'd go with the sushi) then get a firestone or a leo with wm7 with the upgrade.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

while the bugs get shaken out of the first few batches of tp2's i'm waiting to hear more on the Leo.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

that Leo looks so sweet, I wish I could get one. It's like my diamond but perfected as a ppc wtih a 4.3" screen, capacitive, 1ghz snapdragon etc. I wish they'd hurry up on the release so I don't have to wait a trillion years...

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

I'm right there with you...that device sounds amazing!

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

I will tell you right now the Leo is my next phone.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

I think the only hardware spec tpro 2 isn't running is processor and we still have no definitive proof of what processor is necessary to run 7...we have speculation true and projection but that's about it...
heck recall that something like the titan/mogul wasn't even supposed to even go to windows 6.5

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Technically the Titan wasn't even made for 6.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

completely agree,

I would even be willing to wait thru the firestone release (if that ever happens) to wait for the leo. Im sure they will have an android counterpart by then but wm7 is too enticing and they will have a full android port by then anyways im sure since the hero will be be cdma available by the time it comes out.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

ya beat me to it hib:silent:

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

and capacitive screen, not sure about RAM.

but I dont think wm had any type of required hardware for 6.1 or 6.5, it was just "can your phone handle this or not" but if it wont even let you flash or install the OS because you're missing hardware then that could be a different issue.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

i tend to think they'll force wm7 to be used by newer hardware. alot of the timelines seem to point to that as a likelihood.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/windo...nd-more-memory

perhaps this is just me but I find those specs to be taken with a grain of salt. Considering no phone on the market (present or future for at least a year or two) will begin to run those specs and continue to be at the subsidized prices for carriers...

nothing on capacitive touch but multi touch is there so I am a bit skeptical. In my opinion I think windows phone 7 will be much akin to what we are dealing with in windows 6.5

developers hacking and releasing till they can't get it anymore. I think the specs on that list echo a future device(s) not even slated till at least later on next year. All that aside I take what I see as far as specs with a grain of salt...

Now of an interesting note is the fact that the OS is in xml amongst other things. That in itself is an amazing jump. Everything else I doubt we will truly see till the latter part of 2010 early 2011

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

I am going to transition to the Hero (hopefully in oct.) and then wait it out until late summer 2010.

I figure by then a whole heck of a lot will be going on: Pre 2, WM 7, iphone may lose its exclusivity (which will shake up the marketplace if nothing more), and perhaps some new toys from RIMM.

A lot to look forward to next year (although it seems I'm constantly waiting for "next year", or the "next 6 months" etc.)

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Yeah thats what I was thinking...

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

I agree. I remember the interview with the Microsoft rep showing Windows Mobile 6.5 where he stated Windows Mobile 6.5 and Windows Mobile 7 will co-exist in the market. The Windows Mobile 6.5 offerings will be the "basic" Windows Mobile offerings and the Windows Mobile 7 offerings will be the "premium" experience. He stated that was the reason for the change to "Windows Phone" branding.

If that is true I doubt we will see upgrades coming for 7 at all. Bits of it might make it into cooked ROMs, but I'm not sure that will happen either. Since the rumors lean toward Windows Mobile 7 being based on the newer Windows CE 6 I'm sure we can expect a lot of driver level stuff to need reworking. Not something cooks will be able to pull off since we don't have the driver sources in the public eye.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

after seeing the htc leo I can definitely say htc is definitely moving in a good direction toward windows phone 7...though I wonder about legacy devices...hm

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Haha, we always want the next best thing when it comes to technology. To me, waiting is not an option xD

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

it does give waiting a more easier option but I also may just buy both but seeing the specs the price range may be outrageous
and if the htc leo is indicative of the future of htc, it is very VERY bright
its important I bring up the leo now that udk has a rom of the leo running on the topaz because we see a lot of good instances and packages that echo that yes there is a capacitive touch screen device to be released that may squeeze in the windows phone 7 domain. But it is a bit awkward to do that without taking into consideration touch pro 2 either...I suppose it is all a game

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Nope. Any device with MSM-7xxx won't get the upgrade. Only Snapdragon/Tegra devices for WM7 and we have this info on pretty solid grounds. The HTC Star and Superstar are the only WM7 devices from HTC that we know of right now.

People have to understand WM7 is a complete re-write of the kernal and base OS. MS is aiming for high-end hardware, including multiple sensors, gyroscope, compass and some advanced aGPS technology. Dinky TP2's might have a tough time handling just the memory requirements, let alone the processor.

The reason WM6.5 and WM7 will co-exist is because the differences in hardware requirements will be quite dramatic between the two, so WM6.5 will become the "budget" OS.

As to this article, I wouldn't make too much out of it. We've known some of the hardware specs for quite some time and companies like Qualcomm, etc. are certainly working closely with MS to get their hardware right. And yeah, since the OS is scheduled for release in early/mid 2010, you can bet it is pretty far along in development!

More can found here: http://tinyurl.com/qo7jh6

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Thanks for the well written article. I plan to wait for the Windows Mobile 7 stuff to shake out before I drop any money on a new device.

No need to replace my phone every year so I can work with it long enough to get some real hardware improvements and a nice Windows Mobile 7 as well.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

huge bump
windows mobile 7 close? uhm not likely more like Q4 2010 will be the official launch - much akin to wm 6.5 being leaked excessively throughout the earlier part of this year

http://twitter.com/pocketnowtweets

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Yeah, my faith in Windows Mobile dropped, what the hell do they expect to happen over a year way, in cellphone years?

Q2 2010 = excellent, Q4 2010 = why bother?

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Sadly agree with this.

after all, android, webOS, and OSX mobile will be updated a lot by then so its not clear cut to assume it will blow everybody out of the water (m$ isn't famous for this either...)

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

there is virtually no hardware, according to microsoft specs, to support wm 7...so I don't think they have a choice but to wait
its a shame actually that microsoft is doing this but it does explain why there will be 2 wm 6.5 builds

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

yeah that does explain why they are releasing 6.5, all i know is wm7 better be bad to the motherloving bone, because we still need to wait over a year...

can you imagine a Leo with wm7 though, now that would be sweet.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

leo with 6.5 is already sweet for me especially considering manila 2.6
I thought with 2.5 they were done and beyond but heck I can't wait till 3.0!

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

yeah i forgot about 2.6 and 3.0, might look better than rosie.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

I think that will be the best anticipation rather than windows 7 which is coming next year and the issue I dont' understand with wm 7 is simple
why did microsoft beef everything up? They really could've done a lot with what they had but I guess with the two 6.5s they expect that by 2011 wm 7 will be the premier OS

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

It looks like they want to be ahead of the game. When all the new phones come out next year that support all this come out, they'll be ready for wm7 where other developers will only start to integrate their OS to fully use the hardware, I'm not sure what android has in store for us but at this point I think I'd rather go with wm7, especially if microsoft buys palm

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

microsoft buying palm? hm an integrated wm with webOS (drools)

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

from August 4 - http://trendsupdates.com/microsoft-can-buy-palm/


would be pretty sweet.

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

Its gonna be Q4. I havent upgraded to 6.5 cause I was waiting for the to release a stable version of the OS to the carriers first. But they are taking forever with that as well.

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/micro...pgrade-in-2010

Re: Windows Mobile 7 closer than expected?
 

epic fail windows...epic fail