HTC's 2010 Lineup
 

Just glanced over it from engadget http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/h...es-on-display/

I have to say im heartily disappointed with the 2010 lineup.. the Touch Pro2 "replacement" looks to be virtually the exact same thing, there are some devices with capacitive, some with resistive screens, HVGA, VGA, and WVGA resolutions all over the place. Its a mess.. the phones use the same 7XXX processors, and im not buying any of this xxxx if this is all there is.

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Sweet find! I agree with you about the WinMo lineup, but it looks like the Bravo might be my next phone, if it comes to Telus.

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The only thing that looks good is the Bravo. Even though it seems to heading T-Mobile's way.

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Can I get a phone with a keyboard and snapdragon?

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Wow. HTC threw WinMo to the curb, lmaon I'm feeling the Bravo too.

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I can say I do like most of them but can't believe TMobile gets almost everyone! Maybe Verizon and Sprint will follow behind with CDMA versions later after they release with Tmobile.....hopefully :)

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I said it once and ill say it again... winmo is a dying breed.

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I also do not like most of the new phones on the roadmap. Unless more phones are added or I get really bored (most likely will) I will keep my Touch Pro 2 for 2 years. Good thing I like it a lot.

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htc is most likely saving the eye-catching winmo phones for second half 2010 when winmo7 is due...

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In your opinion and others too I am sure. You never know what will happen in the future. WM has big plans for 2010 we hear ;)

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Did you guys forget that microsoft is launching 2 platforms. WinMo6.5.x is going to be the low end. Low specs just like the ones listed. Small screens and crappy processors. WinMo7 is the higher end. Snapdragon processors and capacitive screens. Maybe a few w/some big ass screens =-D. The only reason why I think there's no WinMo7 phones on this leak, cause Microsoft never officially announced it or HTC never got any pre releases of WinMo7 (If they did, we would have some custom wm7 roms floating around by now). So HTC couldn't put any WinMo7 specs out yet. So don't get all bent up. We can only wait to see what hits in the 2nd half of the year when WinMo7 comes out. Remeber, this is HTC's 1st half leak only!!

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Reason why im depressed about it is the phones released by HTC in 1H 2010 usually are the ones that end up in the US in the 2H. Unless they are keeping it super secret.

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They are probably keeping them super secret, I am not worried one bit. I am actually expecting great things from htc and microsoft in 2010.

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Agreed. Plus we have the HD2 coming in a few months.

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I posted this on our front page and referred to this thread for forum discussions. Feel free to comment on the article and post your opinions in there too!

http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2009/12/06/htcs-2010-roadmap/

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Im kinda ok with all the phones they have cuz that mean I can wait a little longer with my TP2 since it still new.

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And this all says T-Mobile. How many phones they release to the USA will be limited I think, or completely different. Also the TP2 isn't doing that bad with sales so we shall see.

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Doesnt really matter to me... next phone I buy wont be winmo anyways.

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What good are plans if no Handset maker is going to carry it?

I agree with the previous posters. Winmo is really dying. Now it won't go completely away simply because Microsoft is behind it.

But it is no secret that HTC and other handset makers really don't like WinMo anymore... It's sad because many of us have spent so much time on Winmo, but Microsoft has really has so many misteps with their Mobile OS that it might be too late to recover.

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The only one I would think about getting is the Bravo, but I will just stick with the TP2 untill i see what hits in the 3Q. Plus, hopefully the hd2 doesn't go to Tmobile, that's the the only carrier I wouldnt switch to. But they could have atleast come with something a bit more appealing. I am much happy with my TP2, so a good wait is not an issue. But that line-up is diappointing.

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I read that this leak is not complete...

#1: It is only for the first half of 2010. With WM 7 due out late in 2010, it doesn't have any of the exciting WM 7 devices due out next year.

#2: This was only a presentation for potential T-Mobile devices, and not a road map of everything HTC will be releasing.

Well, at least that is what I read about it someplace...

Me- I actually want a Touch Pro 2 replacement. Give me a horizontal sliding qwerty, tilting screen, thinner than my current Touch Pro 2, better camera (with flash), more RAM, bigger ROM, better CPU, FM transmitter so I can stream music to any old car stereo, and HDTV output (via dongle cable, obviously). Basically a Touch Pro 3 that is like a Touch Pro 2 on steroids. Or something like a Touch HD2 with a horizontal sliding qwerty and tilting screen.

Hopefully we see something like that in 2010...

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I dont care if it has a keyboard or not, i just want a phone with a tegra or snapdragon chip, a screen at least 3.5" WVGA capacitive (OLED preferrably) and WM7. I guess if Microsoft and HTC fail to deliver me a device like that this year, im going to get that Bravo.

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smartest post of the thread! WHY in the heck everyone tossing wm on the wasteside when one company only leaks part of the phones on their largely T MOBILE partnership?

how many windows mobile devices do we see really on t mo? Not many...
beyond that HTC is notorious for releasing the big changes in all that is cell phone NEXT month. And that is what I'm waiting for. At least we have a much more accurate lineup

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Where are you getting your information that it's no secret that HTC doesn't like winmo? Last I checked, there were articles and announcements by HTC stating they treasure and value their partnership with Microsoft/Winmo and will continue to develop for them. That's why the Touch HD2 is winmo. Not to mention the TP2 is the best selling business phone outside of the Iphone 3GS.

I don't get why people are writing winmo off. Just last night I was sitting around the dinner table with a bunch of friends and playing around with our phones (TP, Droid, Iphone 3GS, pre) and even though I'm sporting a Winmo 6.1 TP, I could do quite a bit of the same things the other phones could. Granted I don't have a compass, or turn by turn GPS for free, but everyone was just as impressed that my old TP could do a lot of the same things and we haven't even begun to talk about winmo 7.

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Im sure htc will give us a good wm phone.

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or as per usual 3
like they do every year =/ I expect htc to keep scoring well now that samsung is close on the heels of a fantastic smart phone (samsung omnia II being a great pocket pc with the ability to run touchflo 3d 2.5 on a faster processor makes it definitely the envy right now)

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Well I'm also taking into account of the well publicized comments by the CEO of HTC not being happy with WinMo recently. When the CEO actually comes out and makes PUBLIC statements like that, something is not right.

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link???

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if you're referring to the comments made by Peter Chou with Forbes Magazine, here's a portion of the article.

I don't think his comments were anything really negative towards windows mobile or criticism. In fact, he's merely stating the perceptions that we all pretty much have. But his comments after the fact are more telling. Especially when Chou goes on to point out 13 years of development partnership (later on in the article), and the fact that we have not begun to talk about winmo 7.

link to article: http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/28/goo...eless-htc.html

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I guess what I'm saying is:

Given the strong words of partnership with Microsoft by the CEO and President of HTC, and the fact that there's nothing in the 2010 roadmap for the second half, coupled with Windows Mobile 7 coming out, I wouldn't count out WinMo Phones, particularly from HTC.

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gotta be honest..... besides the Bravo (yaay Android and Snapdragon!!) its pure crap.... i mean, they went from s#itty 528 mhz to a slightly less s#itty qualcomm 600 mhz??? I bet it wont be noticible compared to the Droid, 3GS, and similar devices running A1 Cortex CPU's

And the Diamond2's successor will run a HVGA screen?? Isnt that a downgrade to a WVGA??

Hope they kick a$$ with HTC Sense but on the other hand, hope the hardware can support it...

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Yea, right? I was not at all impressed with anything on that list. Not at the level I've been seeing HTC move towards with the Hero, TP2, HD2, etc... But I know that's not a full line up by any means.

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and yet none of those phones seem to be even as sexy or as featured as the HD2.....

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every single phone has a tmobile stamp on it...
EVERY SINGLE DEVICE
and isn't it interesting that the successor to the hero wasn't fully announced...let's just wait for MWC next month =) because that is when we all get a bit closer with regards of what htc has to offer
I wish arlen had some more info on this though

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What's going on with CDMA next year sigh... As Noir said above, everything is Tmobile stamped... Feels like we're getting all the left overs..

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I'm thinking I might get an HD2 on T-Mobile until mid next year when the WM7 phones come out. At least this way I'll be able to get the leaks.

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If you read the article about the CEO of HTC, it says that other manufacturers have dropped Winmo... but HTC is sticking with them (but they aren't happy with Microsoft).

Translation: HTC is really the only major manufacturer Microsoft has left... and it's not a really enthusiastic manufacturer.

Of course, Winmo will never go away since the giant Microsoft is behind it. But in reality, the writing is on the wall, the train has left the station... or whatever cliche you want to insert. Even in Winmo7 is a hit... by the time it comes out, the game might be over already.

Just as an example look at the MP3 market. For the longest time Microsoft was really the major player... then along came the iPod and it literally changed in 6 months. Microsoft responded with the Zune... a flop. Then they came out with the next generation Zune. Overall a really decent device. Unfortunately the game was already over.

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The only manufacturer that has dropped windows mobile is Motorola. In fact, all others Samsung, LG, HP, Ericsson, etc. will continue providing winmo phones. The only one of those who can be really considered iffy is Samsung, who plans to move to 50% android, 50% winmobo in the next 2 years, and decrease that down to 20%. However, Samsung is in the process of developing its own mobile operating system called BADA (ocean in korean) to directly compete with Android.

So really, I wouldn't say Microsoft is out. Every major brand has its own mobile operating system coming into play (Nokia has symbian for example). And also, we know google is in the process of building its own google phone and most likely keeping the most current and up to date android platform for itself. Sooner or later companies are going to be jaded by Google.

Your statement that HTC is the only manufacturer left is partially true. This is because HTC and Microsoft go hand in hand. They have a 13 year partnership and HTC dominates 90% of the Microsoft Mobile platform offerings, so in a sense, yes, it is the main provider, but no, it's not the only provider. Personally, I'd still like to see the 2nd half roadmap for 2010 before I write off windows mobile, afterall, when it comes to enterprise and business, the best selling smartphone on the market is the Touch Pro 2, and that's a windows mobile phone.

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To be technically correct, Motorola hasn't dropped Windows Mobile either. They said they would skip Windows Mobile 6.5, but they will be making devices that run Windows Mobile 7.

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Thanks for the clarification. Technically there are other phone manufacturers that use Winmo.

But realistically, how many of them besides HTC really have models that are widely in distribution?

Edit: maybe the Omnia qualifies but still not a widely known outside of Winmo circles.