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No1ustad 05-15-2008 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by neuteboomt (Post 283313)
My Touch has started doing this as well. I would have to like it is the outside display detaching from the display. I have never dropped mine nor had it in my pocket when I sit done since I purchased the phone back in December. I am curious to know if this is happing on the touches with the older displays (the ones that fade out when looking at an angle). I noticed the newer displays are much more crisp then mine.

how do you never drop it OR have it in your pocket???

MattOktaNZ 05-18-2008 09:30 PM

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..bump bump my Vogue has the same issue

Does anyone know for sure what the cause is and whether it should be covered under normal warrenty ?

acontrasto 05-20-2008 01:01 AM

Re: Screen Broke! What is this? (Pic)
 
It's ignorant to say "it's the liquid." There is NO LIQUID in an LCD display. If there is a screen protector on the screen, take it off and see if there is still a problem. If the problem is still there, it coule be the touch sensor or it could be the lcd screen itself. I've seen similar results from leaving a screen in extreme heat, like in a car left in the sun.

clockcycle 05-20-2008 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by acontrasto (Post 288966)
It's ignorant to say "it's the liquid." There is NO LIQUID in an LCD display. If there is a screen protector on the screen, take it off and see if there is still a problem. If the problem is still there, it coule be the touch sensor or it could be the lcd screen itself. I've seen similar results from leaving a screen in extreme heat, like in a car left in the sun.


LCD = Liquid Crystal Display.. Ever bust one? The liquid seeps out...

-CC

clockcycle 05-20-2008 10:37 AM

Re: Screen Broke! What is this? (Pic)
 
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Originally Posted by Zammer (Post 276125)
Since you asked, that pattern is sometimes refered to as "Moire" pattern.
It is caused by an interference in light that has opposing polarity.


more detail : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moire_effect

more info for polarization if you want to read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization

and here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_pattern

Your case could be either LCD liquid leaking, or delamination of the polarizer for the LCD.

Z

Orange, bold, your answer.. You should be able to exchange it under warranty.

-CC

chicubs3794 05-20-2008 04:48 PM

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yeah man.
i just noticed today that i got a little line on mine too!
it wasnt there this morning!
but on the car ride home i noticed it and thought it was just oil.
will post pics later

jaggrey 05-21-2008 01:06 PM

Re: Screen Broke! What is this? (Pic)
 
Mine has it as well, but not as much. The screen & everything still works so it's no biggie for me.

joeyxl 05-21-2008 01:23 PM

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dat blows man, mine seems fine. oh and get well my fellow ppcer :D

acontrasto 05-24-2008 04:16 PM

Re: Screen Broke! What is this? (Pic)
 
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Originally Posted by clockcycle (Post 289262)
LCD = Liquid Crystal Display.. Ever bust one? The liquid seeps out...

-CC

I stand corrected! There is a "fluid-like" substance in an LCD that retains properties of both a liquid and a solid. Therefore, this substance could also be considered "solid-like."

However, that pattern is defined quite clearly in wikipedia as a texture that takes place in the Nematic phase of Liquid Crystals (LC), which happens to be it's "fluid-like" state.

Picture of the texture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:N...erentextur.jpg

Because of the characteristics of LC and the many phases that it can change to and from, those textures can appear in certain phases due to the level of isotropy vs. anisotropy, where the higher the isotropy of the LC the more random the order of it's molecules will be and vice-versa. That is directly related to the temperature. Higher temperature = higher isotropy = less structured molecules = more likely to have random patterns as OPPOSED to lower temperature = higher anisotropy = more structured molecules = less likely to have random patterns. Anisotropy and Isotropy are inversly related. Temperature and Isotropy are directly proportional.(http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ani...idcrystals.php)

In short, temperature changes can cause those patterns.

So back to my original prediction: The pattern on his screen could have been due to leaving it in a hot car. Or any extreme temperature condition might cause it. As far as the fix, I don't have one. Get it replaced?

Hauk 05-24-2008 04:48 PM

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Thats nothin, a friend of mine had an Apache in his pocket with no case once and at the end of the day when he took it out, the screen was craked so bad that you could barely see things, and you could touch it near the top of the screen and it would select something halfway down hehe. We got a good laugh out of it since it was under warranty.


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