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eduardmc 01-01-2008 08:19 AM

how to make touch screen sensible just like iphone.. read.
 
sprint touch screen is not really that sensible and more for a person that have played with the iphone. This was really annoying to me and i read some posts about how to increase the sensibility of the touch screen. i went over board with it and applied it up to 17,000. at this time was pretty smooth but not smooth has i would like it to be, so i increased it to 30,000 and that was the sweet spot. i could now touch every part of the screen without any effort and it respond to my sensible touch, no pressure at all. the scrolling for touch flow (like in the contact scrolling) is much much smoother, one small slide and everything is at full speed. i don't know about you but i'm loving this sensibility with the touch now.

i used resco registry to change the reg

HKLM/SOFTWARE/OEM/TFLOSETTINGS change the volume of the "finger pressure" to 30000

if you don't like it u can always go back to default speed. NOTE: i have read somewhere that going to 9,000 makes it smoother and that's was when i starter playing with this but it wasn't smooth touch at all, what did it for me was the 30,000 pressure sensibility. i have also tried 60,000 and did not make any different at all so i think that with 30,000 u have reach the max sensibility of the screen (do not know the exact number when did happen but i know it was bettween the 17,000 and 30,000)

agentmikeyd 01-01-2008 12:54 PM

I am using your idea and like it ! are there any concerns by making such a drastic change ?

schettj 01-01-2008 12:55 PM

Guessing you mean sensitive?

The iphone/touch use completely different technology to sense human touch (just try and use a stylus on one - lol) so no amount of registry editing will get you the same feel, and of course you can forget multi-touch...

And yeah, if you own an iPhone or iPod Touch (I have a ipod touch) you'll pretty much never be happy with the current HTC touch screen technology as a finger-touch.

telugite 01-01-2008 01:14 PM

its working very nice. thanks

PlainShane 01-01-2008 01:36 PM

Thank you. Bookmarked for when mine arrives!

question: I have played with the Sprint Touch at work for hours and the only real problem I have had was with the edges of the screen responding to touch (on several devices). Does the X button in the upper right, scrolling, and such respond better now?

No1ustad 01-01-2008 05:24 PM

a huge article on this can be found at xda too- seems some people are getting better results by lowering number too

I say just go back to the screen setup and set up your screen with as light of touches as you can

eduardmc 01-01-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No1ustad (Post 152667)
a huge article on this can be found at xda too- seems some people are getting better results by lowering number too

I say just go back to the screen setup and set up your screen with as light of touches as you can

i have also tried lowering and it doesn't do anything. and doing the screen setup will just make go back to default, believe i have tried all this and read the xda huges articles cause this was a big issue for me. by going to 30000 u will tell the differente on the spot, i'll say is around 3x-5x more sensible than default

christinme7890 01-01-2008 09:12 PM

i don't have touchflo but I do have the ftouchflo and wonder if there is a way to increase the sensitivity on that?

jepp114 01-01-2008 09:18 PM

causes problems with stylus selecting
 
I've found that this creates problems when tryin to use the stylus to select things. It's a trade-off. I'm having good luck with 4400. I noticed with 30k that using my fingers that it's more responsive but not using my nails or the stylus, it seems unresponsive to stylus touches.

yeahyeah 01-01-2008 09:18 PM

changed it to 30000, but haven't noticed any change.

solarsoccer10 01-01-2008 09:19 PM

can you make the mogul more sensible

schettj 01-01-2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christinme7890 (Post 152764)
i don't have touchflo but I do have the ftouchflo and wonder if there is a way to increase the sensitivity on that?

yeah there is, it's in the setting file for ftouchflo...

divxrippimp 01-01-2008 11:38 PM

Makes it soooooooo hard to select things... and i still cant use the base of my finger, i have to use the pointiest part of my finger or my nail

Pitchblack98 01-02-2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 152566)
And yeah, if you own an iPhone or iPod Touch (I have a ipod touch) you'll pretty much never be happy with the current HTC touch screen technology as a finger-touch.

That is true for sure... I just got an iPod Touch last weekend and I can't believe how well the touch screen works. Its flawless. After using the ipod for a while and then picking up my Sprint Touch makes me sick... I broke out my Mogul yesterday to clear it out since I sold it and noticed the Mogul was a lot more sensitive to touch than my Touch was. The touch and hold was also easier and faster than my Touch.

The iPod Touch has almost made me want to ditch Sprint for AT&T if it wasn't for the sero plans I have.

jsls 01-02-2008 02:08 PM

9,000 works for me, it's almost like Opera Drag & Scroll...which I find perfect

schettj 01-02-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitchblack98 (Post 153047)
The iPod Touch has almost made me want to ditch Sprint for AT&T if it wasn't for the sero plans I have.

Yep, only 4.5 years to go until that stupid marketing error is over :D

Heck, by then they should even have most of the kinks out of it...

I like the ipod touch + the htc mogul combo... back to carrying two devices, but hey, it's just the heavy burden I must carry.

swiss190 01-03-2008 12:24 AM

how do i get resco registry?? please let me kno

pdabond007 01-03-2008 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss190 (Post 153542)
how do i get resco registry?? please let me kno

you have to purchase resco file explorer. just google it. it has a 30 day trial. For freeware, you can try PHM registry editor
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/

lynnhamm 01-03-2008 05:38 AM

Hi I am new at this but would love to get the app the touch screen could you please post the attachment for this program and how to use it
Lynn

miwolverine96 01-03-2008 09:55 AM

-eduardmc...
30k makes my PIE, text (scrolling through 50+ old text) & email scrolling 100% better!!!!! thanks for the HUUUUUGE touch improvement!! it also helpped wit the contact list scrolling, but i dont have time for that...i go straight to the keyboard for contacts...its the other stuff that needed better scrolling.

again...excellent fix!!

5harkology 01-03-2008 02:46 PM

When I had mine set on 9,000 the scrolling worked great, but I was unable to highlight multiple messages/items (it would just scroll everytime). How are you guys dealing with this set on 30,000?

pekoe1111 01-03-2008 08:48 PM

Will it Help My Inadvertent Selecting of Text?
 
My biggest beef is I try to scroll (particulary in PIE) and I end up highlighting text or selecting hyperlinks. Is there any way to de-select the highlighting function? Or reduce the sensitivity of selecting instead of scrolling?

Touch999 01-03-2008 11:54 PM

hahaha! Sensible! Too funny! Im leaving mines at default! My screen is perfect and dont have those dark blotches ppl are getting after a while. Hate to have Asurion gimme a bad one.

Sergio 01-04-2008 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5harkology (Post 153848)
When I had mine set on 9,000 the scrolling worked great, but I was unable to highlight multiple messages/items (it would just scroll everytime). How are you guys dealing with this set on 30,000?

Thanks so much for this reg tweak. I had stopped using fTouchFlo all together because of its unresponsiveness. Tweaked it to 30,000, and wow! fTouchflo the way is was meant to work! Awesome!

Now, to your question 5harkology: I tested the new setting w/ my fingernail and my fat thumb.

- My fat thumb - scrolling is a breeze, but I cannot highlight anything.
- My fingernail - I'm only able to highlight w/ it, I cannot do scrolling at all, this included my stylus.

Hope this is helpful.

divxrippimp 01-04-2008 02:50 PM

i cant highlight ANYTHING with it set like this.... its sorta cool cause you can screen drag in all apps, lol... but not being able to select anything sucks...

notrock 01-04-2008 03:01 PM

what was the default setting again?

sj808 01-05-2008 01:13 AM

its already been proven that changing the digits in the registry doesn't fully work. People are just better off doing the screen alignment test and pressing the target real softly.


I once put mine to 50,000 and it was very sensitive.. then I did it at 2,000 and it was sensitive. Hard reset my phone and put it to 2,000 and it wouldn't even read any touches... basically bricking the phone til another hard reset.



The Touch seems to adjust to your pressure the more you use it.


so please people, don't waste your time with this registry edit. You'll never get your phone close to the sensitivity of the iPhone.

Primenall 01-05-2008 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sj808 (Post 155034)
its already been proven that changing the digits in the registry doesn't fully work. People are just better off doing the screen alignment test and pressing the target real softly.


so please people, don't waste your time with this registry edit. You'll never get your phone close to the sensitivity of the iPhone.

Why would you tell people this, when it obviously works great as I and pretty much everyone else who has changed it can attest to?

With the stock setting it is nearly impossible to use finger scrolling effectively, it won't even move except the lightspeed auto scroll and with this simple edit it becomes 100% useable, letting you put your finger on the screen and slide it up and down and actually scroll.

The only downside for me is selecting contacts accidently while turning the cube.

I predict this setting will even be changed in a future Rom to make scrolling actually useable, the way it comes is ridiculous.

Zoide 01-05-2008 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sj808 (Post 155034)
The Touch seems to adjust to your pressure the more you use it.

I highly doubt the Touch would actually monitor and adjust to the way you press the screen. It's much more likely that *you* are unconsciously adjusting your pressure to the screen's sensitivity.

Shaska 01-05-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klurf8881 (Post 155112)
actually it does, well when you do a screen alignment (the crosshairs setup thing).

look at the value then do a screen align and press harder or softer and it WILL change. thats how it sets up the touchflo to work for each users finger pressure

This is also how Every WM Device in recent years set the screen up... (Basically this thread happened before on the mogul forum, And it was confirmed that the Alignment app is the Best way to do this)

Primenall 01-05-2008 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaska (Post 155333)
This is also how Every WM Device in recent years set the screen up... (Basically this thread happened before on the mogul forum, And it was confirmed that the Alignment app is the Best way to do this)

Yep except in the case of the Touchflo App on the touch, it is goofed up and won't really let you actually scroll like it should using just the auto alignment setting.

When you adjust the setting you can put your finger on the screen and simply move it up and down and the items will now move with your finger, it will not do this, or at least it's nearly impossible until you adjust the setting.

Zoide 01-05-2008 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klurf8881 (Post 155112)
actually it does, well when you do a screen alignment (the crosshairs setup thing).

look at the value then do a screen align and press harder or softer and it WILL change. thats how it sets up the touchflo to work for each users finger pressure

But isn't the screen alignment supposed to be for aligning with the stylus, not with your fingers? In that case it wouldn't really adjust the pressure for use with your fingers.

Primenall 01-05-2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoide (Post 155408)
But isn't the screen alignment supposed to be for aligning with the stylus, not with your fingers? In that case it wouldn't really adjust the pressure for use with your fingers.

But it supposedly takes a pressure and surface size readings and adjusts your registry.

sj808 01-05-2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primenall (Post 155068)
Why would you tell people this, when it obviously works great as I and pretty much everyone else who has changed it can attest to?

With the stock setting it is nearly impossible to use finger scrolling effectively, it won't even move except the lightspeed auto scroll and with this simple edit it becomes 100% useable, letting you put your finger on the screen and slide it up and down and actually scroll.

The only downside for me is selecting contacts accidently while turning the cube.

I predict this setting will even be changed in a future Rom to make scrolling actually useable, the way it comes is ridiculous.


obviously you can't read and are delusional. If you read the entire thread, some people says this hack works and some people says it doesn't. Some people say the higher the number is the better and some say the lower the number is better. If you read my post, I stated two situations... One where the higher number was sensitive and the lower number was sensitive.


So how the fuck can you guarantee that this hack works 100% for EVERYONE???

no you can't

Do you have common sense?

obviously not.



you want sensitivity?... get a iPhone, end of story case close. You're sitting here trying to make this old technology work like the iPhone which has newer technology as far as touch screens.



I don't know how long you had your touch but I had mine since it came out. And I heard it all and therefore your post is old news. Alot of people done research on this topic. I think someone even posted the XDA thread about it.



The best result is the alignment test.... I can scroll on PIE and all of that with no problems. Maybe you should learn how to use your device first before posting inaccurate information.

I seriously doubt that the sensitivity of this screen is influence JUST by this numerical value in a registry edit. I know it plays a part in it... but I bet there is something else in the background as well.

sj808 01-05-2008 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 152566)
Guessing you mean sensitive?

The iphone/touch use completely different technology to sense human touch (just try and use a stylus on one - lol) so no amount of registry editing will get you the same feel, and of course you can forget multi-touch...

And yeah, if you own an iPhone or iPod Touch (I have a ipod touch) you'll pretty much never be happy with the current HTC touch screen technology as a finger-touch.


thank you!... my point exactly.

Primenall 01-05-2008 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sj808 (Post 155542)
obviously you can't read and are delusional. If you read the entire thread, some people says this hack works and some people says it doesn't. Some people say the higher the number is the better and some say the lower the number is better. If you read my post, I stated two situations... One where the higher number was sensitive and the lower number was sensitive.


So how the fuck can you guarantee that this hack works 100% for EVERYONE???

no you can't

Do you have common sense?

obviously not.



you want sensitivity?... get a iPhone, end of story case close. You're sitting here trying to make this old technology work like the iPhone which has newer technology as far as touch screens.



I don't know how long you had your touch but I had mine since it came out. And I heard it all and therefore your post is old news. Alot of people done research on this topic. I think someone even posted the XDA thread about it.



The best result is the alignment test.... I can scroll on PIE and all of that with no problems. Maybe you should learn how to use your device first before posting inaccurate information.

I seriously doubt that the sensitivity of this screen is influence JUST by this numerical value in a registry edit. I know it plays a part in it... but I bet there is something else in the background as well.

Where do you get off calling me names and flipping out on me over Nothing, screw you I'm not here to play your little pissing games Buddy.

As for being delusional, posting inacurate information, and not being able to read You take that prize here buddy.
You are the one doing all of that, not me, but I could really care less what you think or post after your little tantrum there, so don't expect a response after this.."ignore sj808 activated"

You seriously need to back off and get a grip, maybe even READ my post, and quit getting worked up over nothing, oh and quit being an ass :violent1:

kellybrf 01-06-2008 12:36 AM

sj is right, playing with these numbers do little to nothing and the phone will never, ever react like the iphone. its a limitation of the hardware

Primenall 01-06-2008 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellybrf (Post 155618)
sj is right, playing with these numbers do little to nothing and the phone will never, ever react like the iphone. its a limitation of the hardware

Well maybe there is more to it, maybe differences from screen to screen or maybe even different screen models are having differing effects for people, below is how mine was and how mine now is.

I'm not even talking about getting to be as sensative as an Iphone, I'm talking about finger scrolling.
On my phone at regular settings you cannot put your finger on the screen and move it up and down and have it scroll, but instantly after setting it to 9000 this feature instantly works and setting it higher makes it even better.

This has been the case with me and many others obviously as well, so I really don't understand why you would say that that is not making a difference.

kellybrf 01-06-2008 01:03 AM

b/c, as many users here have reported, there seems to be no noticeable difference if its set at 4363, 9000 or 30000

Primenall 01-06-2008 01:12 AM

And yet Many other people have reported changing the setting makes the difference between having Tflo scrolling work properly, or not at all http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=14273, which brings up the possibility that maybe there are differences from screen to screen.


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