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Old 05-03-2008, 05:07 PM
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Re: GPS & standby mode

I have rebuilt my my device sereral times and have been using these new DLL's and it does seem to prevent the GPS from hanging and requiring softreset.

But... this last build I goofed up something and GPS would not start.
To diagnose I used memmaid and Noticed GPSDaemonService was not running.

I started it manually and GPS worked.

So I redo the whole set of GPS Patches and the GPS works fine.

But, get this, the GPSdaemonService is NOT running after soft reset or after running google maps with a solid lock.

If I rename GPSDaemonService back to old one the GPSDaemonService starts on it's own after soft reset. Put it back to new one and it does not. But in BOTH cases the GPS works.

So what the heck is going on. I had never checked if the Service was running in prior Flashes but the GPS always worked and I never bothered to look.

Is your Service running with these new DLL's?

Maybe the "Fix" is breaking or removing the service
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Re: GPS & standby mode

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I have rebuilt my my device sereral times and have been using these new DLL's and it does seem to prevent the GPS from hanging and requiring softreset.

But... this last build I goofed up something and GPS would not start.
To diagnose I used memmaid and Noticed GPSDaemonService was not running.

I started it manually and GPS worked.

So I redo the whole set of GPS Patches and the GPS works fine.

But, get this, the GPSdaemonService is NOT running after soft reset or after running google maps with a solid lock.

If I rename GPSDaemonService back to old one the GPSDaemonService starts on it's own after soft reset. Put it back to new one and it does not. But in BOTH cases the GPS works.

So what the heck is going on. I had never checked if the Service was running in prior Flashes but the GPS always worked and I never bothered to look.

Is your Service running with these new DLL's?

Maybe the "Fix" is breaking or removing the service

You will need hgrays gpskickstart program to c:\windows\startup I have posted the file an link to it within the first post of this thread. It will automatically start the GPS service, and device drivers.

An I have updated the drivers today as well. Those that have it installed allready just delete gpsid.dll from c:\windows folder, and do a soft reset.
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Re: GPS & standby mode

What do I need Kickstart for? The GPS runs fine with out the service running at all? But I do need to prime it with Google Maps.

Why do these Drivers need KickStart anyway but previous drivers do not.

Am I in an AllTel Thread? I'm running a Sprint phone and I thought Sprint Phones didn't need KickStart from what I read but AllTel phones do.

I'm confused.
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Re: GPS & standby mode

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What do I need Kickstart for? The GPS runs fine with out the service running at all? But I do need to prime it with Google Maps.

Why do these Drivers need KickStart anyway but previous drivers do not.

Am I in an AllTel Thread? I'm running a Sprint phone and I thought Sprint Phones didn't need KickStart from what I read but AllTel phones do.

I'm confused.
If you don't seem to need kickstart, don't use it.

GPSKickStart is for people who can't run unsigned drivers at device boot, and don't want to do the 1-2-3 method, which supposedly kills your device's security. While it may be a useful method to developers and testers, I believe that there should be a different way for the average abuser. Hence, kickstart.

I believe this has been stated before...

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Re: GPS & standby mode

Ah, now I understand, I did do the "1-2-3" method. Thanks.
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Re: GPS & standby mode

Im using the upgraded drivers with good success, Thanks Mardukeme. GPS always comes back on unless it goes into standby while the gps is on. Therefore I modified the iguidance launch script that prevents the unit from going into standby. It launces GPSTest and as long as that is up the unit will not go into standby (unless you push the power button manually).

Just something I am playing with, and maybe it will help someone and you can modify it to suit your needs. just take off the .txt extension and it should work as long as you have mortscript and gpstest installed.
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Re: GPS & standby mode

I don't need any script to keep iguidance (V4) from letting phone go in standby, it does it automatically for me.

However, iguidance doesn't know anything about the backlight. So I shut the backlight timeouts off, you don't need them unless you want to play music with backlight off.

Don't confuse backlight going out with true PDA standby.

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Re: GPS & standby mode

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If you don't seem to need kickstart, don't use it.

GPSKickStart is for people who can't run unsigned drivers at device boot, and don't want to do the 1-2-3 method, which supposedly kills your device's security. While it may be a useful method to developers and testers, I believe that there should be a different way for the average abuser. Hence, kickstart.

I believe this has been stated before...

If you don't have the ails that the program suits, don't take the medicine.
where can i find this "1-2-3 method"
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Re: GPS & standby mode

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I don't need any script to keep iguidance (V4) from letting phone go in standby, it does it automatically for me.

However, iguidance doesn't know anything about the backlight. So I shut the backlight timeouts off, you don't need them unless you want to play music with backlight off.

Don't confuse backlight going out with true PDA standby.
If you are running the astogps app with iguidance.mscr you are essentially running a script. I have that for iguidance too. The iguidance launcher was what this was based off of. This is for if I dont want to use iguidance at the time, because I might want to use just trackme or just google maps.

This script turns off the battery and ac timeout in the registry. It will prevent standby as long as gpstest is running

On another note, the new dlls really work well. Now the only issue for me is the long cold start.
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Re: GPS & standby mode

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where can i find this "1-2-3 method"
This thread, IMHO, is still the best and most simple FAQ on using the Altell ROM AS IS (optionally now with 3.35 Radio and new GPS DLL's)

Step #6 in Post #1 in the thread below is the "1-2-3 method" (and I think may only applies to Sprint Users).

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24925

If you are running a "Cooked ROM" then I'm not sure what to tell you it may already be "cooked" in or the ROM may use "Kickstart".

Note: Method "1-2-3" disables security which some folks don't want to do and allows "unsigned Dlls" (borrowed DLLs from another device) to auto start as a service.

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