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I'm lovin' it

so far so good...

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24hrs with heavy use and no curve balls yet.

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I vote this thread should be renamed and Stickied.

Re: GPS & standby mode
 

If I knew how to do I would, if and admin could rename it for me I would appreciate it. Maybe call it "Updated GPS drivers"

Re: GPS & standby mode
 

Official Updated GPS Drivers :)

Try PMing mods or perhaps start a new one (with Official in name and request for Sticky in subject) and maintain that one with a link to this one.

It's a valuable thread.

Re: Updated GPS Drivers (Possible Fix For Standby Issues)
 

renamed and stickied

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In layman's terms. Can someone explain what is happening to the COM port that is trying to search for a GPS signal>?
I notice in GPS Viewer it is trying to find the sattelites but never locks on them.

Thanks

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First off, a quick observation.
When I first opened this thread, I saw another long post about GPS, and some files attached, but not 1 thanks on the 1st thread. That made me think it was not going to work, except for a placebo affect on the OP. I was wrong.

I read about half this thread, and then I stopped. (My head hurts from reading GPS threads.)
Bottom line, I installed the dll's from the first post, and I already had GPSKickstart installed.
I reset, and got a signal right away. That hasn't happened before.
This is working for me. Thanks. (Thanks as in, I actually hit the "Thanks" link in the first post.)

A lot of people seem to benefit from this info. Let's all go to the 1st post and hit the "Thanks" link. That will help new readers see that it's actually doing something.

Re: Updated GPS Drivers (Possible Fix For Standby Issues)
 

can i just place the dll files on my device? or do i need to build a rom? I try to copy them and it won't let me because of permission errors..

Re: GPS & standby mode
 

kickstart doesn't turn GPS on, it turns on the service and drivers that GPS is accessed through.

Re: Updated GPS Drivers (Possible Fix For Standby Issues)
 

If you get permission errors try renaming the old ones that gave permission errors to something else first. I just add an "_". Like GPSDaemonService.DLL_ then copy new one in and reboot. Make sure you can copy them ALL with no error.

If the old DLL's are cooked into ROM you might have a hard time replacing them.

Updating and fiddling with these DLL's is easiest on a Stock ROM (because they don't exist at all to start) that is GPS Capable like the infamous AllTel one. But you installed them in the first place you should be able to replace them.

If you want to continue with a cooked ROM (JD and friends) I'd wait for them to release a ROM with all these new findings cooked in.

There is also a CAB that might know how to overwrite the cooked in DLL's.

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I loaded this and seems to work within a minute from where I work, but the real test would be going home tonight. It seems to take longer to lock around where I live.

It usually locks pretty fast where I work (within 3 min max) but it could take up 6 or so minutes where I live.

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I did my test where I drive home from work ~30miles away with GPS off and then turn it on (warmstart) and see how long it takes. Today I fired up google earth and GPStest (great small program to use instead of holux or visualgps). Well it appears agps kicked in and got me within a quarter of a mile.. I waited..waited... then boom I was off in the South Atlantic :) Anyway I ended up waiting about 4 mins and got a lock. Not great but not too bad, especially since I was moving at the time, which makes it harder to lock.

Alltel ROM / Updated Drivers / GPSmode 4

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Just wanted to report that I'm getting a faster lock, and holding it in an area I had trouble with previously (work). A Hard reset to revert back to older drivers, then reinstalling them again verifies at least in my case it's not placebo.

One thing to note though I still have the suspend problem.

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wow, how many times to have to say this... aGPS will get you with in a few yards, not a few blocks or miles or cities... plus there is ZERO lock time with aGPS... because there are no satellites to lock to...

I used to use telenav with agps on my sanyo 9000 (it had NO satellite GPS), and it worked great... way, way way way wayway better then a few blocks.

what your MUST be getting 1 or 2 satellites locking and giving you an inaccurate position.

try GPS on a phone with no REAL gps, and ONLY AGPS... arrrgh...

the 6900, even with the GPSMODE=4 hack DOES NOT GIVE YOU AGPS. it may help you lock on faster, but aGPS it does not....

/rantoff

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Who are you talking to? And you being the expert on GPS/aGPS should know that you arent going to get jack squat with 1 or 2 satellites. It takes 3 for a rough 2d fix and 4 for a 3d fix.

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Hello everybodyyyy,
Sorry I'm getting a little confused about all the gps threads, I think I've found the right one. I posted in another thread about wether or not I could use the gpsenable/kickstart cab that has the alltel stuff in it (even tho my touch is for bell). Any ideas on that?

Also I just tried to manually install the dlls but couldn't because of permission errors. I then tried to rename (according to the above post) but couldn't. Couldn't delete them either. If I run the cab will it replace these files or do I need to manually get rid of them?

thank you all, so close to having my gps work consistently (I thought I had it but I was messing around and now it doesnt work, booo)

cheers

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I was able to copy over the top of the old with resco explorer after a soft reset, but could not with total commander, so try resco

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It's very understandble to be confused.

What ROM you using?

Did YOU install the orginal DLL's or was it included in a Custom ROM you used?

If it's in a Custom ROM, and you like that ROM, my advice is wait for the ROM to be updated. Or discuss it in your ROM's Thread. You'll get the best advice their.

There is also a Thread for Customizing Custom ROM's not sure it will help http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529

If you installed them and you tried to use the built in File Explorer to rename them then that might be the issue. Use Resco File Explorer or Total Commander (Free) to copy them on top. I think you can copy on top with Total Commander or Resco even if it's a Custom ROM. The CAB may install fine too.

The need for Kickstart is also very confusing and Depends on your ROM. There is a manual procedure you can do to remove Security (which some folks don't want to do or can't). Step 6 in this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24925 is the procedure. But this Procedure May or May not be done on a Custom ROM you used. The instructions were for a Stock Altell ROM. If you choose a ROM that does not have this done and you choose to not do it then you have to start DLL's manually OR use Kickstart.

That all said, I'm not sure any DLL needs to be "started" with new DLL's. The only DLL that used to need starting is GPSDaemonServer.DLL and I never start it and set it using MemMaid to not even try to start it. Even though I can run unsigned drivers this DLL no longer Autostarts. Which I think might be a GOOD THING. Because I don't need it and my GPS is NOT hanging. Maybe running it (Auto Unsigned or With Kickstart) is part of the Hang Problem.

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I tried the cab install and it over wrote the old dll's correctly. If you want to make sure, just check the file dates of the installed dll's are a different date then the rest of the dll's in your windows directory.

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But will it install over if the old DLL's were cooked in too?

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It should I deleted the new dll's off my phone and rebooted. Checked to see if I had the original dll's back, I did. Then installed the cab posted, did a soft reset and the new dll's were installed.

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Got it. Thanks

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Followed the directions to a T. I was so sick of trying everything possible to get the GPS to work consistently. And now, I can say this thing has worked for me flawlessly! Even after charging all nigh, going in and out of sleep mode, GPS now works all the time.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

All chefs should incorporate these fixes now! Btw, where did these drivers come from? Inside connection? A leak from SPrint?

Re: Updated GPS Drivers (Possible Fix For Standby Issues)
 

Is there a chance that some of the drivers or settings or whatever get transfered even after a soft reset or hard reset (with or without flashing a new rom). I had gps for a few days on omjs bell rom, played around with it, with no standby isuues (had the original kickstart files installed) but then I wanted to flash a different rom. Tried that one out but couldnt get gps to work and didnt like the rom. So now I'm back at omj's rom, and now the gps doesnt work, even after installing the kickstart/enable cab. Really wish I didn't mess around with my phone after having succesful gps haha. Oh well...

so yah my question was would there be any reason for the gps files to be carried over through hard reseting? I feel like I've confused my phone by adding/subtracting so many diff roms over the past few days. poor phone....

cheers

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I'd just like to chime in that i have been running OMJs windows mobile 6.0 rom (not 6.1) with revA and GPS on my sprint touch and it works flawless out of standby. a little slow sometimes, but thats because AGPS isnt functioning yet. (may have to wait for official ROM for that)

so if you don't need windows mobile 6.1 threaded SMS i'd say go with OMJ 6.0 revA GPS rom, been using it for about 2 weeks now with windows live search turn by turn directions, they are spot on!

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There might be chance, I noticed in the past where I have flashed from one rom to another and noticed some discrepancies. Basically now out of habit I always do a hard reset after flashing a new rom just to make sure it's clean, and there are no old files lingering around.

Re: Updated GPS Drivers (Possible Fix For Standby Issues)
 

Use Latest GPS DLL's and go in registry and change GPSMode to 4 and you will see AGPS working. Does not work every time but does most times.

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I would hit "Thanks" but don't have the post count yet.
This is working great on my phone!
Pre-install: went outside, stood there and wandered the parking lot for 20 minutes, got nothing.
Post-install: went outside, stood there/wandered the parking lot for 2 minutes, got a lock.
Bonus: Walked inside, it still sees the occasional lock (this is my office building, lots of steel/concrete above me), this never happened before for me, despite coworkers with moguls and tilts getting locks inside all day long.

I'd build a new rom with the kitchen and these dlls, but I'm going on a trip to Buffalo, NY and I need the phone, and the GPS, to work :) So I'm not changing anything 'till I get back.

Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou!

Edit 5/7/08 This definately works perfectly after a soft reset. After standby seems to be spotty, will repost if it gets better.

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I have been playing around with a few registry settings, and now I am getting some weird result. Using Garmin Mobile XT and switching to satellite view, it shows all 12 satellites, at minimal strength which it never did before. Though once it starts picking up a satellite signal reverts back to the number of satellites viewed revert back to normal. Below is the registry settings I made.
The IP ADDRESS & PORT # are specific to SPRINT, it may work with other carriers or it may not. If no sure what your carriers IP, or port address are just leave those lines out.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]

"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"GPSMode"=dword:00000004
"ServerIP"="68.28.31.49"
"ServerPort"=dword:00001399
"EnableGPSSmartMode"=dword:00000001
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3b9ac9ff

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction \CDMA]
"GPSOneSetting"=dword:00000001

Remember after you import the registry settings wait a little bit before you do a soft reset, because the settings will not be saved. I screwed up the first time and did not wait just did a soft reset and after boot up I rechecked the registry settings and it reverted back to the original settings.

Re: Updated GPS Drivers (Possible Fix For Standby Issues)
 

ok well i decided to update these from the OMJ rom. I followed the advice of everyone on here and overwrote the ROM embedded GPS dlls with RESCO and that worked fine. Then I booted up and the GPS wasn't working. So I installed the kickstart also.

I was able to lock on to 5 satellites in 5min inside my apt by the window. It never worked this fast or even at all in my apt. The way it was searching for satellites was sequenced from the gps viewer. Very Very cool stuff. I'll see if it works in the morning without a soft reset.


UPDATE: I just tried to get a lock again and it look as if the gps is hanging....So it looks like it didn't fix that issue DAMN

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It's hit or miss for me:( sometimes it's fast, other times it doesn't get a lock at all..

I have to wonder if maybe the agps servers (at the ip / port in the registry setting) aren't responding correctly.
-mark

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An observation from today..

I was inside a building, and had a hard time getting a lock.. The thing is, the gps WAS giving me AGPS - but tomtom ignores this..

If I went to gps viewer / google maps / live search, it would show me approximately where I was..

But tomtom kept searching for satellites...

-mark

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I have ran through this thread and am not seeing anyone else with the problem I am having. I have an Alltel touch with the oem rev a update. I have installed the GPSKickStart_&_GPS_drivers_cab.zip and gps test. When I run gps test it finds the gps on com 4 and displays "gps starting up". It stops there and never starts or locks. Location is turned on and everythig is set to be controlled by windows.

Any ideas?

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I am using OMJ's V2 ROM the GPSkickstart_gpsenable.Cab, Garmin-XT. I've got it set up using com 4 instead of GPS Intermediate Driver. and I'm having no troubles whatsoever. I run garmin both right after a Reset, standby, or all day long and I never need to prime the GPS with any other program. I even fired it up in the middle of my office building and I got a lock.

I don't know what to tell you guys. I literally installed that .cab on OMJ's ROM, and popped in my Garmin-XT card and voila, it works perfectly. (I did have issues until I chose COM4. -GPS Intermediate Drivers caused it to lock up and not find both the internal GPS device and/or the Sats.)

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There is a lot a variables here:

Kickstart vs no Kickstart
Was security lifted in original cooked ROM or not.
Don't assume your hung if you get no lock inside. I'd say if you get no lock for 5 minutes outside then you are surely hung. But outside is usually less than 2 minutes if not moving.
Did all dll's get overwritten.
At one point there were instruction to remove a dll, which you do if it's cooked in.

Either use a stock rom or follow latest info on your cooked one and wait til it's got all these patches properly integrated.

No Gps hangs in 5 days for me.

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gpsid.dll seems to have been cooked into my rom. I moved it to a different folder (the date on the file was 02/03/08 ), but now a different file shows up (date 04/25/07). I can't move or delete that file. Is this not the file I was supposed to move/delete? How can I get it to go away?

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Can someone with a Titan using the official SPRINT GPS rom upload the following files for me. It seems the Alltel Titan users are having the same problem getting a GPS Lock as well. I would like to do some more testing to improve the GPS feature on our devices.

gpsapi.dll
gpsapiext.dll
gpssecurity.dll
virser_gps.dll
gpsdaemonservice.dll
qccmquery.dll
gpsid.dll
gpsid_qct.dll

Re: Updated GPS Drivers (Possible Fix For Standby Issues)
 

Reinstall the cab, or copy over the dll's again from the first post, you deleted the correct dll.

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Thats what I figured... I moved the file that I had saved away back and it is back to mostly working, still doesn't work from standby *sometimes* :) But at least on the times it does work (or if i soft-reset), it is 2-3 minutes from cold start instead of 10 minutes-1 hour.