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Shrink 04-29-2008 06:23 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Thanks for the reply!

Quote:

That SPL looks to have a lot of neat options available via mtty, but they can also make things worse if you aren't careful.
Could it get much worse than it is now? LOL :)

Since they have agreed to swap the phone once they get a replacement in, do you have any suggestions as to what I could try? I presume that the 2.01 SPL came out of the Alltell ROM but it won't flash either (wrong device id).

To the best of your knowledge, has anyone ever been successful begging HTC for a signed shipping rom that hasn't been made available through the carrier? <g>

If you can think of anything I could try, I would really appreciate it. Otherwise, I appreciate your help as is. ;)

mardukeme 04-29-2008 10:08 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrink (Post 265725)
Thanks for the reply!



Could it get much worse than it is now? LOL :)

Since they have agreed to swap the phone once they get a replacement in, do you have any suggestions as to what I could try? I presume that the 2.01 SPL came out of the Alltell ROM but it won't flash either (wrong device id).

To the best of your knowledge, has anyone ever been successful begging HTC for a signed shipping rom that hasn't been made available through the carrier? <g>

If you can think of anything I could try, I would really appreciate it. Otherwise, I appreciate your help as is. ;)

Not sure if it's possible to SuperCID your phone with mtty in your current state, if so you can flash any rom, since it bypasses the carrier check.

ImCoKeMaN 04-29-2008 11:27 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
2.01 is the SPL you said you had, and its the one that is on these locked devices from an alltel flash. The method i wanted to try for SuperCID didn't work for this configuration when i had someone try it. The ideas I have though require digging in hex to see what's happening and if i can use certain commands like mw, jump etc. Other options involve rtask to talk to the radio, but i can't really give steps until i know more about what options there are.

hljerdee 04-30-2008 01:58 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Imcokeman, How do you update your rom from your memory card?

I'm not talking about what has been discused in this thread.

I mean is it possible to do it while the phone is running to update from the file explore on the windows mobile device (touch)?

Because like I said in an earlier post i can boot it up using MTTY
but if i turn it off it goes back to bootloader.. Or if the screen shuts off the phone will just stay at a grey screen when i try to wake it up...

Any help will appreciated.. Thank you..

ImCoKeMaN 04-30-2008 02:08 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
use "set 16 0" in mtty next time, that tells it not to go to bootloader. Also, what SPL/radio/rom versions are you using? I need to know all 3. If they aren't compatible you can have similar issues as well.

hljerdee 04-30-2008 02:21 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
oh ok i will try that. Thank you... Um let me see...

Rom: 1.12.651.1
Radio: It don't show the radio , prl or esn..
Spl-2.01. 1000
CPLD-3



Thanks for your quick response....

ImCoKeMaN 04-30-2008 02:40 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Re-run the unlocker until it shows 2.31 in the SPL then you need to flash a the alltel rom to get GPS radio and you'll need GPS compatible roms. Otherwise you should use the 0.40 SPL for a 1.xx rom.

Shrink 04-30-2008 03:55 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I ran MTTY out of Vista after disabling connecting through USB in WMDC but USB wasn't detected by MTTY. Is MTTY not compatible with Vista? Thanks!

hljerdee 04-30-2008 04:01 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Alright i will give that another try... Ive tried that and the sprint update and a couple of other roms but it doesn't finnish the update...

The first time i tried the unlocker it said succesful...

I tried the command set 16 0 the other day and it didn't do anything but this time i put it in before i typed in boot

now i'm able to turn off the device off and turn it back on!!! But if i put it in sleep mode where the screen is just off . I cant get it to come back on without a soft reset wich is how i found out i could turn it back on so thank you for your help so far..

Update: when it goes to sleep and i try to get it to come on it goes to a blank grey screen... I don't know why...


Update again: I ran the unlocker and it was successful! It still says i have no radio but it goes to the towers when try and make a phone call. (its not activated yet) Now i can tap the power button for the screen to come off and it will come back on! Yes! I did change the settings so that the screen will not go off by any other way but i doubt that has anything to do with it...

hljerdee 04-30-2008 04:06 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Hey shrink try unchecking all of these: alow usb connections,

allow connections to the following port and open active sync when my device connects...

And what version are you using?

I'm using MTTY ver 0.01

Under usb (of course)

Then type command: set 16 0

Then type command: boot

Once you get it connected of course... keep us posted..

Shrink 04-30-2008 04:57 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hljerdee (Post 267107)
Hey shrink try unchecking all of these: alow usb connections,

allow connections to the following port and open active sync when my device connects...

And what version are you using?

I'm using MTTY ver 0.01

Under usb (of course)

Then type command: set 16 0

Then type command: boot

Once you get it connected of course... keep us posted..

Thanks - I see "allow USB connections" and that is unchecked but I don't see anything about ports or opening activesync when I connect (as I said, I am using Vista so it is WMDC). Am I missing something? :)

I am using version 1.16 and tried version 1.42. Those were the only versions I found at XDA developers.

EDIT:
I found 0.01 and selected USB but got "USB port can not open" :(

hljerdee 04-30-2008 05:43 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I don't have vista... I wish i did so i could help you more all i can tell you is how i get to the setting using xp.. If you have older machine you can use then that would be your best be untill someone with vista comes up with a solution for a bricked touch...

I go to icon in the system trey and right click it then a little menu pops up and at the bottom it says "connection settings" then from there you will have the options i mentioned earlier but like i said that's on xp...

I'm sorry i wish i could help you more!!!

If you do manage to find the setting or another machine.
After you do the mtty and everything run the unlocker. That seemed to really help so now it don't go back to the rainbow screen or freeze on a grey screen....

Shrink 04-30-2008 05:49 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Thanks - i'll try this on my son's XP computer. :)

Shrink 04-30-2008 05:54 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Woohoo!!! I am in!!!

Now what? LOL

Shrink 04-30-2008 06:00 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
HOLY **** IT WORKED!!!!!

I went back into bootloader mode after popping the card in with the unlocker on it and then after I soft reset the device, it went straight into WM! Now I will finish running the unlocker so it locks in 2.31, correct?

EDIT:
Okay! I ran the entire unlocker and am now not learning a damned thing from my mistakes and have flashed JD's rom. LOL! Thanks everybody! You were all a lot of help!

EDIT2:
My dumb luck again - when the phone tries to boot after installing the one based on JD's listed here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979 the telus splash screen comes up and does not boot further. At the bottom of the screen it says "no radio". I am going to flash the telus rom and see if that fixes it.

Did my radio rom get lost in the shuffle??

EDIT3:
Reflashing with the Telus rom fixed it. This is most definitely a sign that I should not be trying to get GPS capability, isn't it?? LOL

Shrink 04-30-2008 06:41 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
It didn't fix it - the HTC screen at the very start says No Radio although the phone is somehow working... any suggestions? When my phone goes to sleep, it doesn't wake back up now. :(

When I got to Device Settings, my ESN is listed as all zeros but the Radio, Protocol, PRL and PRI versions are all blank.

hljerdee 04-30-2008 07:44 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Im officially unbricked now. I got my radio and everything to show again!

All without a memory card on xp...

I will do a write up on it later.

Thank you coke and the other contributing members...

Now to finnish what i was trying to in the first place.. Fingers crossed!!

Hey shrink just because the radio isn't showing doesn't mean its not there..

after i did the unlocker i put the oem ship rom back on my touch and when it loaded up it showed the radio and everything...

Shrink 04-30-2008 08:15 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Thanks hljerdee - it does appear to be working okay now after I flashed back to the .40 unlocker. I would feel a lot better if the radio showed, in addition to my ESN. However, internet appears to work as does the phone.

If I flash another rom (custom rom for example) will the radio come back? Thanks!

hljerdee 04-30-2008 09:15 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Hey man no problem i'm figuring this out as i go.. I wrote down all the steps so im going to put it up right now...

If you put the oem shipped rom back on and then you will be good to go...

Shrink 04-30-2008 09:16 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Unfortunately Telus doesn't have a shipped rom posted anywhere :(

The Telus store has ordered a replacement phone for me (I took it in when it was stuck on the bootloader) and I may just swap it when it arrives (unless I can find a 2.15 radio rom somewhere to flash which will hopefully cause it to reappear).

hljerdee 04-30-2008 09:17 PM

This is how i unbricked my sprint touch/vogue
 
You will have to search for the software that you don't have.

Heres what i used
ActiveSync
MTTY ver 0.01
Touch Unlocker
RUU_Vogue_SPRINT_WWE_1.12.651.1_2.13.00_SPC_NV133_ Ship

So start searching...


In Activesynce uncheck these options: Allow USB connections , Allow connections to one of the following and Open ActiveSync when
my device connects.

Plug in bricked touch in to your usb port directly to your pc or laptop.
Open MTTY ver 0.01
Under port scroll down to usb and hit ok..(leave all the other settings the way they are)

In MTTY hit enter so this will pop up

Cmd>

now type in set 16 0

After You Type In "set 16 0" IT will NOT look like anything happend... That's just how Mtty is.... Just follow all the steps!..

It will then jump down and say Cmd>
Then Type in boot
It should jump down and say this

Cmd>boot
+mddi_host_init
MarkECCBlock
Fill RSVD information for block 160 to 176
Storage start sector=0x9D40, total sector=0x132C0
Storage start block=645, total block=1227
Total Bad Block in CE: 0
Erase physical block from 807 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 833
formatstorage Bad block found: 860
formatstorage Bad block found: 1187
+NANDFlashIdentify
+flash_nand_device_probe
flashn_dm_transfer done!
maker_id=0xEC,device_id=0xAA
maker_id = EC
device_id = AA
total_no_devices = 15
We have found a match of IDs
-NANDFlashIdentify
OEMGetUpdateMode
OEMTranslateBaseAddress 23 80000000 80000000
IPLMSG:0x8:INFO: Loading image ...
IPLMSG:0x9:INFO: Jumping to image...
OEMLaunchImage 80000000
Jump to Physical Address 10000000

Or something like it...

It will jump to a grey screen for a little bit but then will load up and say htc smart mobility and will continue to load up like it was the first time you ever turned it on.

It will have you align the screen and everything... then it will attempt to do the full customization well
either way its going to restart your device and when it tries to load up you will be back at the rainbow screen but for some reason the phone still remembers the settings.
So again you go into MTTY and repeat what you did the first time but when it loads this time you
won't have to let it customize.

Your almost done but your not finnished
After you get it all set up, you need to go back to ActiveSync and recheck all the options...
Then run the touch / vogue unlocker until its finnished
Then all that is left is running this rom and you will be good go. (This isn't a link)
RUU_Vogue_SPRINT_WWE_1.12.651.1_2.13.00_SPC_NV133_ Ship

Ive tried this in different orders but for sure this worked for me...
Good luck
Credits:
ImCokeMan
Mardudeme
and to ever I cant remember... Sorry...

Good luck and please post your results...

This may work for different branded touches if you just load your carrier's ship roms....

djk1 05-01-2008 05:24 PM

Re: This is how i unbricked my sprint touch/vogue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hljerdee (Post 267502)
You will have to search for the software that you don't have.

Heres what i used
ActiveSync
MTTY ver 0.01
Touch Unlocker
RUU_Vogue_SPRINT_WWE_1.12.651.1_2.13.00_SPC_NV133_ Ship

So start searching...


In Activesynce uncheck these options: Allow USB connections , Allow connections to one of the following and Open ActiveSync when
my device connects.

Plug in bricked touch in to your usb port directly to your pc or laptop.
Open MTTY ver 0.01
Under port scroll down to usb and hit ok..(leave all the other settings the way they are)

In MTTY type hit enter so this will pop up

Cmd>
now put in set 16 0
It will then jump down and say Cmd>
Then Type in boot
It should jump down and say this

Cmd>boot
+mddi_host_init
MarkECCBlock
Fill RSVD information for block 160 to 176
Storage start sector=0x9D40, total sector=0x132C0
Storage start block=645, total block=1227
Total Bad Block in CE: 0
Erase physical block from 807 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 833
formatstorage Bad block found: 860
formatstorage Bad block found: 1187
+NANDFlashIdentify
+flash_nand_device_probe
flashn_dm_transfer done!
maker_id=0xEC,device_id=0xAA
maker_id = EC
device_id = AA
total_no_devices = 15
We have found a match of IDs
-NANDFlashIdentify
OEMGetUpdateMode
OEMTranslateBaseAddress 23 80000000 80000000
IPLMSG:0x8:INFO: Loading image ...
IPLMSG:0x9:INFO: Jumping to image...
OEMLaunchImage 80000000
Jump to Physical Address 10000000

Or something like it...

It will jump to a grey screen for a little bit but then will load up and say htc smart mobility and will continue to load up like it was the first time you ever turned it on.

It will have you align the screen and everything... then it will attempt to do the full customization well
either way its going to restart your device and when it tries to load up you will be back at the rainbow screen but for some reason the phone still remembers the settings.
So again you go into MTTY and repeat what you did the first time but when it loads this time you
won't have to let it customize.

Your almost done but your not finnished
After you get it all set up, you need to go back to ActiveSync and recheck all the options...
Then run the touch / vogue unlocker until its finnished
Then all that is left is running this rom and you will be good go. (This isn't a link)
RUU_Vogue_SPRINT_WWE_1.12.651.1_2.13.00_SPC_NV133_ Ship

Ive tried this in different orders but for sure this worked for me...
Good luck
Credits:
ImCokeMan
Mardudeme
and to ever I cant remember... Sorry...

Good luck and please post your results...

worked like a charm.... thanks, you are the man

hljerdee 05-01-2008 06:36 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I'm glad to hear and thanks it feels good to help someone else for once haha....

stickmandude 05-01-2008 07:39 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
THANKS A BUNCH jerdee!

Works like a charm!

RubberSideDown 05-02-2008 05:37 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
You guys are lifesavers! Thanks!

(<noob> PS - where's the "thank" button </noob>)

hljerdee 05-02-2008 08:01 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Thanks again.. I'm just noob myself for the most part... But it does feel good to be reconized as part of the ppcgeek community...

And i'm glad to see i'm able to help someone out....

occhris 05-03-2008 01:21 AM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
whewwww I spent 4 hours but I successfully put my phone back to business.

Be sure to use ONLY the 512 MB card it came with.

Diggydee70 05-03-2008 08:12 AM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I have a mogul that I believe is bricked. It is stuck on the rainbow colored screen showing RUUNBH in top right hand corner of screen and
tita100
SPL-2.07.0000
CPLD-9 on left hand side of the screen just below the RUUNBH.
I cant sync back up to the media device center.
Can this be fixed. PLEASE HELP. THANKS

hljerdee 05-03-2008 08:34 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I've been there too... Haha it sux....
Here just go here and you will be good to go...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9229

CAPONE615 05-04-2008 12:56 AM

Re: This is how i unbricked my sprint touch/vogue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djk1 (Post 268564)
worked like a charm.... thanks, you are the man

i dont get anything when i type 16 0, but when i type boot, it does exactly what you say, but it comes back up and goes back to the htc smart mobility screen.

stickmandude 05-04-2008 02:10 PM

Re: This is how i unbricked my sprint touch/vogue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CAPONE615 (Post 270873)
i dont get anything when i type 16 0, but when i type boot, it does exactly what you say, but it comes back up and goes back to the htc smart mobility screen.

type in 'set 16 0'

CAPONE615 05-04-2008 05:45 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mardukeme (Post 259603)
Edited *This will help those that are stuck at the HTC welcome screen and cannot get past it to load IMCokeMan's Unlocker.**


Apparently you can not use SDHC cards with this method, please use the 512mb card that came with your phone.


I have successfully unbricked my phone due to updating the Alltel rom to a non Alltel Vogue, before IMCokeman had released his unlocker an also have downgraded to the previous SPL version. I will shortly update this post with the How to instructions. I just need to retrace my steps.

I would first like to thank IMCokeMan for his help and unlocker.

I currently have a Sprint Vogue but I assume this will work for all versions

For those that had loaded the Alltel rom without the unlocker and have bricked there phone try this procedure to unbrick your phone.

1. First download IMCokeMaN's 2.31 Unlocker. http://rapidshare.com/files/11019074...r_MFG_2.31.exe
2. Extract IMCokeMan's unlocker

Previous SPL version was 2.31 current SPL version is 0.36

Edit by ImCoKeMaN:
Note: Steps 3, 4 and 5 should not be necessary, but step 6 is critical that it is a signed rom from your carrier

3. Navigate to the extracted folder and within the folder you will find the following file called VOGUIMAG2.nbh and rename it to VOGUIMG.nbh

4. Copy the file to a fat32 memory card, and insert it back into your phone, and place it into bootloader mode.

5. The phone should display Loading... let it sit there for a minute or so. It will not go past this screen, now reboot the phone.

6. Extract your official rom (Must be a signed EXE from your carrier, check here)

7. Navigate to the extracted folder and within the folder you will find the following file called ruu_signed.nbh and rename it to VOGUIMG.nbh

8. Copy the file to your memory card (less than 2gb and formated fat32) and insert it back into the phone and place it back into bootloader mode, and install the your Carrier's Official ROM.



I have attached the VOGUIMG.nbh file for those that are having problems.

i tried and got the "loading" gray screen, then "no image file found" and back to bootloader

CAPONE615 05-04-2008 06:03 PM

Re: This is how i unbricked my sprint touch/vogue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickmandude (Post 271162)
type in 'set 16 0'

i type set 16 0 and get nothing, but cmd> so i type boot, and get exactly what is posted.

Red49er 05-04-2008 09:47 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Make sure you type enter or something first because the mtty program doesn't actually send the command unless you see a cmd> out front.

computerjunkie 05-05-2008 02:06 AM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I need help. Before I bricked my phone I already had unlocker 2.31 on it along with ugraded radio (rev a + gps)

I was trying to load OMJ's custom ROM when I bricked my phone. I have followed all the instructions but I am constantly stuck at the multi-coloared screen with the following:

VOGU100 MFG
SPL-2.31.CoKe
CPLD-3

Please Help! Thanks.

computerjunkie 05-05-2008 02:40 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I fixed the problem. I just reloaded the old ROM that I had on there before I bricked it and now all is back to normal. Thanks again for all your help (by providing so many reference posts).

zerogravity 05-06-2008 01:47 AM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
so i bricked my phone from trying to go from the alltell GPS rom back to DCD's. I think i already have the 2.31 spl.

so what's happening is that the screen is at the HTC smart mobile after loading, but gets stuck there. if i do a hard reset i get to the tri-color bootloader screen.

edit: so i found mtty version 0.01, but after doing the set 16 0 and boot, i still get stuck in the htc smart mobility screen. any ideas? heeeelp

Arlen 05-06-2008 08:22 AM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
I got the screen after flash the Sprint stock ROM.
M 03 No Radio
B 01
D 1.12
SPL 0.36 0000

I tired the method that CoKo provided, but the phone can not boot into OS. :(

roshak 05-07-2008 04:10 AM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
Hi everybody,

I have a HTC Touch P3450 (GERMAN version) and can not understand which one of these is suitable for me, i got the same problem for a couple of months and unlocking the phone before the welcome screen may help me waking my phone up!! cuz it's got stuck in the black "smart mobility" screen with a red text above "OS 6.0.0.1"

I don't know at all the names Sprint, vouge,...!! which ROM should i take for myself, and is this unlocking methode helpful to me??

ImCoKeMaN 05-08-2008 10:06 PM

Re: Unbricking Vogue / and downgrading SPL
 
the P3450 is an elf, not a vogue. Do not flash ANY of these, go to xda-developers and check their elf section. Also, read that carefully as the elf and elfin are similar, but loading the wrong rom will cause a brick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arlen (Post 273037)
I got the screen after flash the Sprint stock ROM.
M 03 No Radio
B 01
D 1.12
SPL 0.36 0000

I tired the method that CoKo provided, but the phone can not boot into OS. :(

You sure the Sprint rom you loaded was the shipped one? It should have version numbers and a long EXE name if so. Also, did it say it was flashing the radio when you ran it? If not you might have just flashed the dumped sprint rom that i posted. At this point though you need the signed one.

PS: thanks to bigbilal04 i was able to look at the 2.01 bootloader/"no radio" situation tonight. Still not seeing much for telus/vzw users yet though.


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