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I just love that the Carriers and HTC have REALLY stepped up to the plate on this problem....They HAVE to be aware of the situation...and None of them have released any corespondence addressing the issue......I wish I knew if they were replacing the TP with the TP2....as this would be the perfect chance to return the phone for the upgrade and Let their own Ignorance screw them!

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Replacing the bin files and turning off QuickGPS has not worked for me. About the only radio that is working w/GPS is the Sprint 1.12.34F. Any other ideas?

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Did you replace it in Both Directories?

P.S. One other thing I did is I made sure the file had a current date on it. Since some stuff is date sensitive. But I'm not sure that mattered.

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well i dont know if it connected i would ise one of the address in my recent list and when it supposed to find my location and stuff it soft reset

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If it soft reset you do have the issue.

Replace xtra.bin file in \Windows and \Temp with the one attached in this thread and soft reset.

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Haven't had any issues with this, but when I checked QuickGPS the last file it had downloaded was on 10/27, a day or so before the majority of these problems came to light. I'm running NRG 'Photon' build 23081 from 10/25, with Sprint's 1.12.34F radio, PRL 60655, PRI 2.34_003. Google Maps hasn't so much as hiccuped in the past couple days, and I would know as I use my phone extensively for work-related travel.

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This worked for my CDMA Diamond.. thanks!!

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I am having exactly the same problem, and phoned BELL asking for a new phone! Of course I tried EVERYTHING, I mean it.

But thank you!!! Your bin file fixed the problem!

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I have experienced the same GPS locking reset problem for the pass few days. Flashing a new Radio fixed the problem for me. No hard reset was needed.

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Weird, I was having this same issue and disabling quickGPS and deleting those XTRA.BIN files and replacing with th one in the thread worked for me. What's th deal. Does this mean we have to never use QuickGPS again??? When does the data in that other XTRA.BIN file expire??

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im with bell, and the file did not work for me.

i put it in windows and in \temp

but not working.

some times it reset and some time it lost gps device.

im so lost right now.

running stock phone from bell.

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Yes I replaced both directories, same result. No I didn't mess with the date. This is completely nuts in regards to no matter what ROM I flash to the GPS will still only work with the 1.12.34f radio or it soft-resets.

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Well why not try setting the date on the files. It may see it as expired or older than last update an not use it.

I had suspected that maybe that's why it worked for some folks and not others because depending on how you copied it you may or may not get a new date.

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I tried today. Doen't work. I am still using the downloaded extra.bin file to have the gps alive for now.

How many BELL's Diamond here?

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I used ultraedit to save it as to current date. It is working. But I didn't try what happens if I don't change the date.

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Ah, you did change the date. That's good to know.

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I'm starting to hate HTC's phones :( I'm wondering if I should try the new Telus HSPA+ networks with the iPhone or something. Seems much more stable than Windows mobile phone ... :/ or maybe stay with HTC but taking a Hero with Google Android. I will try something like "My GPS is not even working... gimme another phone" hehe

Nah damn it won't works. Telus can see that I don't use their own navigator so they'll know that I've modified my phone :(

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Thank you for the ultraedit tip, it worked like a charm... Finally after a week I have GPS... it seems the DST had nothing to do with it... (or maybe it triggered it .... don'tknow) but thx... hopefully HTC/Bell/Sprint will take a look into a fix... because this is not a good thing... makes me actually want to leave HTC after years of recommendations/usage... Sad

my first try was without changing the date and after reboot the phone would turn off and then vibration would be constantly on at low vibration... very very very very weird....it's like my phone had a mind of it's own.....

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I was also hoping that the DST change would fix it but it hasn't. Thankfully the xtra.bin file was posted and that has allowed me to continue to use the GPS function

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QuickGPS rebreaks the gps upon download. Re-re-downloaded the xtra.bin, fixed. I'm using SeaSGEE for now, which isn't breaking my GPS with the file it downloads, and speeds up lock ons.

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i feel the same. I was recommending diamond to everyone . but not now

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I used this and now my GPS in my Alltel brand Touch Pro now works again. It responds a little slower than when the QuickGPS was working but... I'm in Northern Michigan about 20ish miles SE of Traverse City. I just noticed this problem just a day before the time switch. :disgust: For those that might be wondering, I am using the stock ROM.
Verison 1.05.671.4
Date 10/09/08
Radio 1.03.16F

Thanks to all for the help.

Dave

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I was just about to do a hard reset on my device when I checked this forum. I am having the exact same problem with my phone. Google Maps either locks it up or restarts it. Sprint Nav works fine, though ????

I'll have to go back through the 10 pages and see what you all did.

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Where I found the file was on this thread, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...0&postcount=59 Hope this helps you.

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your right.

it works now.

before i just copyed the file over, and it kept the same date as the original poster's date.

but you have to use todays date.

so i just used NOTEPAD.EXE and opened the file then save it again,

this re-save caused the CREATION date of the file to be todays date, and now it works.


save to \windows and \temp

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It is interesting that Palm Treo Pro also has this GPS problem:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=93992

So it isn't isolated to just HTC.

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We need to wait another week or so to make sure all of the DST data has flushed from the QuickGPS database to test again, but so far it looks like QuickGPS is Dead...

I am surprised about the date of the file being important, but if it work, do it...

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Having the same issue. I'm on MightyRom4, Radio 1.11.00F. I'll try re-flashing the radio tonight.

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I had the same issue with the GPS. I installed the original HTC Rom for the TP http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownloa...at=2&dl_id=683 and then re-installed EnergyROM and it is working perfect. My last QuickGPS update was 23 hrs ago

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Unless you have a really new Touch Pro, the ROM on the HTC site wasn't your stock ROM. That was the semi-silent update Sprint put out about a month ago. It includes the 1.12.34F Radio that people on this thread have been saying is one way to workaround the problem.

It is likely what resolved your problem was actually the new radio. I mention this because when you say "original" ROM, for most people it means something else.

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Actually for me going original did not work. I am with USCC and have a copy of the original shipped rom, not the one from the HTC site. Anyway it did not solve the problem, nor did a couple of other radios. It was recommended that I use Sprint 1.12.34f and that solved the problem. I have tried going to other radios since and the problem returns. I have not tried after the DST change so who knows.

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To summarize:
Many people are having problems with their GPS since 10/28/09.

Some symptoms of the problem include the phone crashing and rebooting, the GPS getting lock momentarily then losing it, phone freezing up, no data coming from the GPS COM port, and no GPS device available.

This has been seen across carriers (Verizon, Sprint, USCC, Bell Canada, etc.)
This has been seen across different models and manufacturers (HTC Touch Pro, HTC Touch Diamond, Palm Treo Pro)

Cause
The problem has been partially narrowed down to the data downloaded by the "QuickGPS" app which downloads from the Internet a package of data which helps the GPS obtain a lock faster.

From around 10/28/09 and afterwards the data downloaded by QuickGPS seems to be causing or interacting with the radio causing the symptoms above. Some people theorize this might have something to do with DST but this has not been conclusively verified.

Workarounds:
1) If you are using *Touch Pro*, use the latest Sprint Touch Pro Radio, v1.12.34F (Not sure if the radio would work on Touch Diamond and very likely would brick Palm Treo Pro) This can be downloaded here:

Thread: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74422
Direct: http://dcd1182.n715dp.com/index.php?...o+1.12.34F.exe

This is a self-contained installer which will update your Radio over the USB cable. If you have an unlocked phone and want to update your Radio via SD card method you can open up the .exe in 7-zip and extract RAPHIMG.nbh and update as you would any ROM update.

2) Use an earlier copy of the QuickGPS data set which doesn't exhibit the problem

Thread: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...60#post1278260
Direct: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...3&d=1256910087

psiphi was nice enough to post an earlier copy of the QuickGPS data set which doesn't exhibit the GPS problem. This is the xtra.bin file for QuickGPS 1.0 installations. Newer versions of QuickGPS use "packedEphemeris.ee". That might be just a renaming of xtra.bin or could be a different file format.
To use this workaround

a) start QuickGPS and disable automatic downloads
b) extract the xtra.bin from the above .zip
c) update the date on xtra.bin to today's date using your favorite file manager or equivalent technique
if you don't have one, you can use your PC and filetouch.exe for DOS available here: http://www.softtreetech.com/24x7/archive/47.htm
d) copy the date-modified xtra.bin to your phone, replacing the *two* existing files, \windows\xtra.bin and \temp\xtra.bin
e) reboot your phone

3) If you have a Sprint Touch Pro and don't mind reinstalling everything, you can install the updated Sprint 2.01.651.6 ROM.

This will automatically update your Radio to 1.12.34F. Please note, this will install an updated OS/ROM as well so you will need to reinstall your apps.

This ROM update is available on the HTC site here:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownloa...at=2&dl_id=683

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You're lucky. Don't use NOTEPAD it will corrupt the file (Both XP and Win 7).

To safely trigger the date change without changing contents.

Open a DOS Window (Command Prompt) and CD to where you have the file then just type

copy xtra.bin+,,

That will basically copy a NEW file to itself and change the date.
Then copy it down to \Windows and \Temp on your phone.

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i was useing windows 7,

that version of notepad.exe has a ENCODING option, just set it to ANSI and not unicode or unicode bigendion or utf8 cuz that will kill it for sure. (i think)

but that ULTRA EDIT text editor is free to download form google.com :)

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could your ROM that you flash include a RADIO update?

im on bell and all updates like jucy and ENERGY and PSY rom flash never come with RADIO included.

maybe cuz your useing the spring orignal ROM it could be doing your radio too ??

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dont bother with radio flash, just copy the file over.

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just adding to the statistics, new HTC Pure on ATT also stopped locking over the weekend. old bin copied to temp and windows also fixed my problem.

I'm really quite surprised this topic hasnt popped up in more places, like att forums.

I can also confirm a coworker's pantech pro also stopped locking after quickgps data refresh... which really sucked from him because he was hiking, got signal long enough for quickgps to refresh on Saturday... then no gps. doh!

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I can confirm: Reflashing a radio fixed my GPS. I'm not using QGPS anymore.

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I to have had this problem and swapping out the xtra.bin worked on the 23081 build of the Energy Rom and it seems to have fixed the problem. I guess still no word from HTC about this mess?