Sashimi vs UCAutoinstall
 

which one is better?

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sashimi. Way better.

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Sashimi, no question about it.

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Sashimi because its easier, more user friendly, overall simpler to setup and change at a moment, from flash to flash and doesnt require as extensive knowledge of ppc's and not every rom is UC capable yet... still a lot of chefs, who dont even know how to do it, so you cant do UC on everyrom, but you can do sashimi on every rom... althoug, UC is becoming more and more common everyday, it still has a ways to go, before everyone is using it w/ ease I think!

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for sashimi users, do you guys just use the mscr file in the storage card after flash to run the autoinstall?

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yep pretty much, just go into sashimi folder on sd card and run sashimi mortscript and itll load the app and then u can autoinstall from there...

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also, how well does sashimi do for backing up PIM? does it restore text messages, contacts?

also i have a question regarding other settings. does sashimi allow backup of bluetooth settings? how about weather tabs settings?

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I know theres a way to set it up to do that... but i just use pim backups for that stuff... I mainly use sashimi to install my cab, owner info, regristration ifo for my apps, xml info, like all my email account settings... mainly for that, although Im tweaking my setup up so that I can start backing up and restoring my registry tweaks as well... check out the website and the youtube tutorial videos to get you started

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is there a spot to vote for neither?

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UC for me... It's too easy...

I didn't understand Sashimi...

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sushimiakiu is lame, if it was so great it could do the cab installs and backup restores on its own.

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UC hasn't let me down yet, so I'm not gonna learn Sushi... :) Or whatever it is, I usually cook everything in.

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It could if a chef would actully build the complaince support in to the rom...I dont see wht they dont...us ans sashimi wouldnt conflict with each other

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That's the reason I give Sashimi the nod big time. It does not matter what ROM I'm using, once Sashimi is configured, I can install my stuff on whatever ROM. It does not matter if the ROM cook ever heard of UC. So the ROM cook can focus on other ROM customizations, because once I've got Sashimi configured I'm set for anybody's ROM.

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after using both im stickin with uc

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I like UC because it allows me to tweak on a per ROM basis. I can just go into y SDConfig file and drop // before a line I don't want it to run because it is cooked into the ROM. I find that very handy when working with a lot of programs that some chefs include and some don't. If I was to do that with Sashimi, I would have to delete files from the CAB directory, and then copy them back next time, and try to remember what programs I wanted and I didn't want. With SDConfig, the next ROM comes along, if it doesn't have google maps, I can just open that SDConfig file and delete the two slashes and blamo, it installs it for the new ROM.

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SASHIMI, easily. You don't have to manually enter in each cab into the SDConfig.txt file (dump them all into a folder), you don't have to create xml files to provision registry entries (folder with .reg files instead), supports mortscript files for automatic installation of cabs with dialogs, etc.

Oh, for those SASHIMI users that don't know, if you copy your \Storage Card\SASHIMI\Program\UCINIT\SDConfig.txt file to the root of your Storage Card, and it'll integrate seamlessly into a UC enabled ROM.

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I've been using UC for a bit for just cab installs and email setup. I've recently switched to Sashimi to give it a shot. So far I'm pleased. I was wondering if anyone knows of a post or forum where people are sharing the reg keys they've exported and are using. For example, I wanted Sashimi to import my program icons on the HTC Manilla Programs Tab. I found these by exporting the following:
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher

Anyone else have any cool reg entries they want to share?

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there's no comp for sashimi... NONE!

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+1 on Sashimi, just because I haven't used UC yet.

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could someone explain that a little more? what does it do?

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best of both worlds for those who need it... sashimi more than takes care of my needs.

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RUNCC is going to be the new winner, I can tell you that right now.

HTC program that will search for configure files, and then run them in a certain order, but it lets you customize what order, and what to look for, very nice.

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never heard of run dmc but im interestedby what conflip just said!

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Is that what you run after doing a Grandmaster Flash? lol...sorry, back on topic now.

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Sashimi wins hands down. No fuss, no muss. UC is good, but Sashimi is more user friendly and as mentioned above, doesnt require rom compliance. Just give Sashimi a try. Won't let you down.

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RunCC is what HTC is running on all 2009 devices. still needs some tweaking, but word on the street is that someone will have a tutorial on how to use it and everything this weekend on XDA.

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RunCC (aka Run DMC) might work for future HTC devices, but Sashimi works for all WM devices no matter who made it ;) . Even my Touch Pro already.

Not saying RunCC is not going to be great (even Run DMC had their time), but Sashimi seems most flexible unless RunCC will always be usable on any WM device without any special premade ROM hooks.

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Hey all, Well I just saw this post and first off wanted to let everyone know there is a new version of SASHIMI over at winmo-experts.com. Version 8 includes mostly better support for newer devices (more resolutions and storage card options). If you are a SASHIMI user I recommend you upgrade and please post any feedback over in the forums there.

I also wanted to thank all of the SASHIMI users here and hopefully clear up some misconceptions about how SASHIMI works. I personally believe that SASHIMI is the most powerful installer out there. SASHIMI at its most basic functional level does pretty much everything UC does and with just a little extra work much much more. Some of the things that only SASHIMI does:

1. Allows installation of CABS to Device Memory, Storage Card, Internal Storage, etc.
2. Allows the use of .AUTO files to automate CAB installs which require user input.
3. Easy drag-and-drop allows simply placing files in the directories instead of writing any code.
4. Processes REG files in addition to XML - Many users find writing a REG file is much easier than XML.
5. Runs custom Mortscripts to do anything else you can code. Runs EXE and LNK files and installs Certificate Files.
6. Can automatically continue after a restart from a CAB during installation.

Although I always enjoy getting new SASHIMI users, I don't feel I have a competition going with UC or any of the other installation methods. I have always tried to design SASHIMI to be user friendly and powerful. Whenever I hear of a lack of what other installers can't do, I have tried to put that into SASHIMI. I also believe the documentation of SASHIMI (including the videos) make it the easiest to use.

I don't intend to (and have never before) badmouthed any of the other installers out there because I believe that the development is good for the community. I also acknowledge that for certain users they may prefer lesser functionality for an interface that they are already comfortable with or simply are happy enough with their installer that they don't feel the need to explore. For those of you who use SASHIMI know that I even integrated UC into it for those who wish to use both.

For whatever reason there are still alot of misconceptions about what SASHIMI is, what it can do, and how it works. Personally I believe these are mostly from people who didn't want to take the 10 minutes to watch a video or read the documenation. It appears most of the posters in this thread have actually worked with it to some degree and I always encourage feedback since I always want to make the program something people want to use.

In closing, I just to reply to a few of the comments posted here to maybe clear up a few things --

@chazybaz13's comment of "if it was so great it could do the cab installs and backup restores on its own" and zikronix's reply of "it could if a chef would actually build the compliance support in to the rom":

Yes, this is exactly right. UC only runs automatically after a flash if a chef has added in the UC compliance. SASHIMI can run the same way if a chef uses SASHIMI Compliance (SC). Since UC came about before SASHIMI, and had a larger initial following (not sure what the ratio is now) more chef's integrated it. However the instructions for cooking in SC are available over at winmo-experts.

Another point on this is that SASHIMI can run automatically after inserting the Storage Card if using the \2577 directory which is detailed in the documentation. Of course every person is entitled to their opinion, but I find it a little silly that even if this were an issue, that taking the 5 seconds to click to run SASHIMI (or UC if the case was reversed) should make a difference as to which one is used. I think the core functionality would be the more preferable factor to debate.

@parkjam's comment of "I like UC because it allows me to tweak on a per ROM basis":

SASHIMI does have the capability through using multiple .INI files to load up a different set of CABS (based on their directory) for use with different ROMs. In addition, the latest version (8.0) includes a "Skip" directory which allows you to quickly drag and drop those CABs you don't want to install into a subdirectory for easy retrieval later.

Again, personal preference here, but dragging and dropping a file is about as easy as opening a files and commenting/uncommenting a line.

@conflipper's comment of "RUNCC is going to be the new winner, I can tell you that right now. HTC program that will search for configure files, and then run them in a certain order, but it lets you customize what order, and what to look for, very nice.":

I must admit that I don't know too much about RunCC yet as I am still using 6.0/6.1 ROMS. However the most info I could find on it was a post Noonski has over at XDA where he is integrating it with AutoRun. In fact, as he states RunCC is really nothing more than a new way that HTC is implementing the Autorun Config file and there is no information I can find that states it does anything like searching for and/or configuring files anymore than the old autorun procedure has done. It is simply a new loader with increased performance.
Noonski however has been utilizing the same method he mentions in that RunCC post for a while now, which is basically cooking in Mortscript to a ROM to allow for more options (namely being able to use MortScript to do installation tasks). While his method certainly has merits and possibly some advantages, it is really more of a method to allow cooks easier ways to customize their ROMs by being able to use MortScript to do tasks instead of messing around with all the ROM XML files.
One of the things this method does allow you to do is to run MortScript files from your UC SDconfig.txt files. While this is certainly better functionality, it still means coding MortScript files yourself, which may be great for some advanced users, although SASHIMI has been able to run custom MortScript files since day one.
In short, I don't think RunCC is a replacement for SASHIMI, or even UC at this point, nor do i think it was ever designed to be one, but just rather a newer loader mechanism for provisioning the same old XML files as before. More info on RunCC may prove that belief wrong, but I will tell you that if it does have some enhanced functionality I will certainly attempt to integrate it with SASHIMI as I have done with UC.

Anyway, thanks for the support and I am always welcome to hearing more about what you like and don't like about SASHIMI. I have been unable to devote as much time to development recently (8.0 took longer than expected to be released) but still plan on keeping it up with the recent devices and technologies. Please post anything directed for me specifically over at winmo-experts as I check there most often.

Happy Flashing!

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long read but great info man, been using uc for the last coupe months but ill check out the new version of sashimi. thanx for the tip

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thats weird. i couldnt understand uc but sashimi was eeeeeeeeeeaaasy as hell for me!!!

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man i would like to try sashimi 8 but i don't want to register on winmobile forum. anyone successfully find a copy of it elsewhere? thanks

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Probably not a good idea to ask for this when the developer (me) has already posted to this thread and as it requests on the winmo-experts site that copies of SASHIMI are not distributed from other sources.

The 3,000 other people out there registered to the site, I don't think it is too much to ask that you do the same.

I can guarantee you as operator of the site that your e-mail address is not used for any other purposes other than registration.

Also, downloading from the site ensures you are getting a version that hasn't been tampered with..something that has happened more than once.

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Bengalih rocks. Why would you not want to register? He is super helpful. He answers any questions you might have? And his videos make it so that you really dont have that many questions. Just chiming in for a great app and developer.

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LION-O is better (JUST MY 2 CENTS)

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Thundercats?

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Sashimi compliancy is built into my rom. It will auto install your cabs in the auto>cabs folder on your SD card, so long as you already have shashimi installed to SD.

Sashimi is super easy -- just drag and drop. No code to write. Also does exe, reg, xml, etc...

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The main benefit of Sashimi for me is the ability to drag and drop. This is great when installing different roms. For example, Energy rom has a ton of apps installed. You wouldn't want to reinstall those programs.

I can just drag and drop the files into the "skip" folder and let Sashimi install the cabs I want to run. That is much easier than going in and editing a Sdconfig.txt file. I used to use UC.

Also, what happens when you are trouble shooting a problem you're running into? it might be one of the programs you are installing is conflicting or you just want to see if it's the rom. In this case, you would just want to run the clean rom for a little bit. Or maybe you just like comparing roms to see how fast it is or to see how much free memory is available(I like to do that to compare roms). In either case, Sashimi wins. Hell, if you're still uncertain, Sashimi contains UC in it so it wins hands down. This way you can run UC whenever also.

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Does Sashimi allow creating Windows Live email accounts with the settings "as items arrive"?

A while back I looked into it but it seemed like push email wasnt supported. I'd love to have my email setup and running with each new flash, but I have held off as I didnt see push email support via the available settings.

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I've used Sashimi and I like it a lot. The video tutorial is great!!
I only have one issue, but I haven't researched on a solution for it. I want to create two xml files for my 2 gmail accounts and it hasn't been successful yet, so I end up just manually re-creating my gmail accounts after I flash. It is super easy anyway with the 6.5 roms.