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pjf357 02-23-2009 05:13 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
lol Networking can be frustrating:) Sometimes my network makes me hop on one foot wearing one red and one black sock while saying"I love my network" 3 times in three diferent pitches, or it refuses to connect :p

pjf357 02-23-2009 05:20 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
ok fixed the sprint error!!! manually enabled the data connection> duh lol
But still won't connect. what goes in comp name and what goes in domain. thnx

dagnasty 02-23-2009 05:49 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by dahray02 (Post 733104)
you're better off that me, i got ultra vnc running on my laptop and i used another computer to test it and i can login fine, but i dont know how to get a VNC client on my phone :(

Here's a RAR file with 3 different VNC clients, including the RealVNC you asked about earlier

pjf357 02-23-2009 06:18 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Yay I got it working using windwos 7 beta.
Here is a step by step of at least what worked for me:)

1: goto www.portforward.com, select your router,skip the advertisment,Everything is alphabatized so Goto r's and select remote desktop. Now follow all instructions to forward port 3389(thanks for the link dagnasty!!)

2: IMPORTANT!! This caused me major headaches. After your router firewall is setup, MAKE SURE your software firewall is as well ie. windows firewall, norton etc. If you don't you will be doing this](*,)

3: go into start menu/ control panel/ system/ now select system(from classic view for vista and 7 users) Goto remote settings and enable the computer to recieve remote connections

4: Goto (http://whatsmyip.org/) (thanks Denasqu) Write down your IP

Update if you are trying to get vnc working just swap to vnc instead of remote desktop in post 1 :)

5: Goto your comm manger on touch pro and make sure your phone data connection is enabled! Also caused me a massive headache lol

6: Goto remote desktop on your touch pro and run it. Goto options and select Hi Color 16bit or your screen will look funky

7: Now under the main screen where it says computer: enter your ip that you wrote down( not the local one ie 192.168.... the one you got from whatsmyip.org) under user name enter the name you use to log onto your user account on the computer you are trying to remote control. Enter Your password under password. I left domain blank.
Note: You have to have a password I believe.

8 Hit connect and Enjoy!!!!=D>:)

if I missed giving any credit for the links or anything sorry. I'm new:)
Hope this helps everyone out

dahray02 02-23-2009 06:30 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dagnasty (Post 733223)
Here's a RAR file with 3 different VNC clients, including the RealVNC you asked about earlier


bows down

avgas 02-23-2009 07:16 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
I've been using this for afew weeks now, comes in handy at times.

How secure is using this program? Having your ports open and all, is there a way to make it more secure? Thanks

dagnasty 02-23-2009 07:45 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by avgas (Post 733480)
I've been using this for afew weeks now, comes in handy at times.

How secure is using this program? Having your ports open and all, is there a way to make it more secure? Thanks

Setup a VPN

Technology1 02-23-2009 07:46 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
I been trying to connect for weeks, no dice, but I refuse to give up, I will connect one of these days. Thanks in advance for all the help that I can get..{LOL}:headbang::drunken::headbang:

pjf357 02-23-2009 07:53 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
check my post 4 up:) worked 4 me

themaster 02-23-2009 07:58 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjf357 (Post 733103)
inside tests work fine. When i turn off wifi and try with my external ip, or anything else for that mater. I get a sprint conection error not a rmd error:( I think i must have a setting on the phone wrong somewhere, because it keep refering me to my network settings on the phone...

Well, there is another annoyance I have with RDP that I forget to mention.. it doesn't dial #777 or the data connection.. make sure you have a data connection open.. if that still doesn't work your problem is without question the router.. (and that's most likely the settings)

pjf357 02-23-2009 08:00 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
God yes!!! make sure you manually turn on the data connection or you will be](*,)

Technology1 02-23-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjf357 (Post 733626)
God yes!!! make sure you manually turn on the data connection or you will be](*,)

I'm still getting a error message "The remote computer has ended the connction".... What is the fix for this error message, because everything is still connected...?](*,)

pjf357 02-23-2009 09:00 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
are you logged out on the remote computer?

pjf357 02-23-2009 09:00 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
what os are you using

avgas 02-23-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Technology1 (Post 733721)
I'm still getting a error message "The remote computer has ended the connction".... What is the fix for this error message, because everything is still connected...?](*,)


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898713

NinjaDuck 02-23-2009 11:40 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
You are much better of seeing up incoming connections (PPTP VPN) and forwarding port 1723 to your computer. Set up the VPN on your phone as a default connection. It will dial every time you connect to the EVDO network.

This protects your phone and home computer. There are many exploits for RDP including straight brute force.

Make sure you use a static IP or DHCP reservation on your home machine or your IP will change and the port forward will fail.

MM

boredmug 02-24-2009 12:53 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
arghh... this crap is frustrating. i can get my phone to log on, it displays my laptops desktop but then i can't do crap and it just seems to freeze up??

dahray02 02-24-2009 02:31 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
anyone get VNC working, i can get it running up and fine only when i'm on Wifi in my home network, then i just enter the 192.168...etc and it connects fine, but with no wifi i cant see to get the external ip address working

avgas 02-24-2009 03:26 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
This is pretty much step by step, can't get simplier. Just make sure you forward port 3389 on both UDP and TCP

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjf357 (Post 733301)
Yay I got it working using windwos 7 beta.
Here is a step by step of at least what worked for me:)

1: goto www.portforward.com, select your router,skip the advertisment,Everything is alphabatized so Goto r's and select remote desktop. Now follow all instructions to forward port 3389(thanks for the link dagnasty!!)

2: IMPORTANT!! This caused me major headaches. After your router firewall is setup, MAKE SURE your software firewall is as well ie. windows firewall, norton etc. If you don't you will be doing this](*,)

3: go into start menu/ control panel/ system/ now select system(from classic view for vista and 7 users) Goto remote settings and enable the computer to recieve remote connections

4: Goto (http://whatsmyip.org/) (thanks Denasqu) Write down your IP

5: Goto your comm manger on touch pro and make sure your phone data connection is enabled! Also caused me a massive headache lol

6: Goto remote desktop on your touch pro and run it. Goto options and select Hi Color 16bit or your screen will look funky

7: Now under the main screen where it says computer: enter your ip that you wrote down( not the local one ie 192.168.... the one you got from whatsmyip.org) under user name enter the name you use to log onto your user account on the computer you are trying to remote control. Enter Your password under password. I left domain blank.
Note: You have to have a password I believe.

8 Hit connect and Enjoy!!!!=D>:)

if I missed giving any credit for the links or anything sorry. I'm new:)
Hope this helps everyone out


dahray02 02-24-2009 09:55 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by avgas (Post 734575)
This is pretty much step by step, can't get simplier. Just make sure you forward port 3389 on both UDP and TCP


my question is do i have to do all that for VNC or are those instructions just for remote desktop

pjf357 02-24-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
I havn't tried vnc. But I will give it a whirl when I get back from work.

dagnasty 02-24-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dahray02 (Post 734761)
my question is do i have to do all that for VNC or are those instructions just for remote desktop

VNC uses a different port, port 5900, so you will have to open and forward that port to your PC. It will also use port 5800 for a connection via web browser, but that will only work on a PC so you don't really have to worry about that one. You can also change the listening port in the settings as well

dahray02 02-24-2009 11:29 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dagnasty (Post 734916)
VNC uses a different port, port 5900, so you will have to open and forward that port to your PC. It will also use port 5800 for a connection via web browser, but that will only work on a PC so you don't really have to worry about that one. You can also change the listening port in the settings as well


so basically follow those instructions but change 3389 to 5900? I can change the port on Ultra VNC to use 3389 instead of 5900, and then port forward to 3389. that sounds like it would work?

dagnasty 02-24-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dahray02 (Post 734933)
so basically follow those instructions but change 3389 to 5900? I can change the port on Ultra VNC to use 3389 instead of 5900, and then port forward to 3389. that sounds like it would work?

Not sure how the 2 programs listening on the same port would work out. Maybe turn off RDP first. Portforward.com should have a guide for VNC as well, but its basically the same thing as RDP

dahray02 02-24-2009 03:14 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dagnasty (Post 735410)
Not sure how the 2 programs listening on the same port would work out. Maybe turn off RDP first. Portforward.com should have a guide for VNC as well, but its basically the same thing as RDP


oh i'm not using RDP at all....I'm trying to use VNC only

avgas 02-24-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
follow the guide at portforward.com for VNC

pjf357 02-24-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
avgas is right just use the same step by step and instead of selecting remote desktop select vnc

stevenmh 02-24-2009 09:50 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjf357 (Post 733626)
God yes!!! make sure you manually turn on the data connection or you will be](*,)

Oh, for the love. Is MS serious?

I was in a seminar all day today. Got boring. REAL boring. Guy reading building code verbatim. So I decided I'd give RDP 6.1 a spin for the first time.

I enter the info, hit connect, and it brings up my Vista x64 desktop. Lookin' sweet. I open up my email to look for an order confirmation. About 10 seconds later, RDP disconnects. I try to connect again, but I get an error message about my connection settings. I reboot, same thing. Google for the RDP6.1 cab, download, reinstall, same thing. Now I'm getting disgruntled because my email is open at home... auto checking POP3 every 5 minutes and deleting mail off the server... so I can't even check email on my Pro the rest of the day. Try Windows Remote Workplace or whatever it's called into our server, thinking I'll RDP from my work desktop into home and shut down mail, but neither Opera nor PIE will download the ActiveX component to do that through SBS2003. So I spend the rest of the day BITTER.

I come home, turn off the phone, turn on wi-fi, and it's working fine thru LAN and WAN. Try phone data again, same problem. Install RDP6.1 on my wife's Treo 800w, it works fine. So I google around and end up here in this thread.

So I try again, manually start a data connection through Comm Manager, and now it works fine.

Seriously. MS's RDP client can't auto start a data connection? Actually, it seems it can, but just sometimes refuses to. Based on what? Mood? I mean, it worked the first time I tried it, and then just stopped. And now, having gotten it to work, I disconnected and I let 10 seconds go by for the data connection to terminate (thru Advanced Config tool option), try it again, and this time it auto starts the data connection and stays connected, even if I just let it sit there and do nothing. I even let it sit long enough for the screen to turn off, turn it back on, and the data connection / RDP session is still uninterrupted.

So I went all day without email for no reason. Stupid random Windows nonsense.

dahray02 02-24-2009 11:19 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
mannn, thanks all of ya'll i cant say thanks enough....vnc works like a charm!!

mikenerd 02-26-2009 12:30 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by majorassface (Post 707552)
RDP default port is 3389
I've got RDP working on my Diamond and don't use a third party app. If you're behind a router than you will have to setup a dns, it's real easy just do a google search and you will find a million tuts. Forward port 3389 to your PC and make sure your firewall rules allow it. That's it, then on your phone hit RDP, enter the dns you set for your router as the computer name and then your pc user name and pswd and it works. Let me know if you have trouble.

Can someone please check my work? Can't get it to work...dont know why.

I am using Vista and my computer is connected to a router

1. went to whatismyipaddress.com from the computer I want to access and wrote it down

2. went to dynDNS and signed up for a dynamic DNS. I checked the "host ip option" I used auto-detect ip there and it came up with the same ip from above. When I finished signing up I installed their DynDNS updater to my machine in case my ip changes

3. set up a static ip on the computer I want to conncet to.

4. Forwarded the port to the above static ip.

5. Setup DDNS in my router settings:
put in my DynDNS username for "username"
put in my DynDNS password for "password"
put in "myname.kicks-***.net" for "hostname"
selected "dynamic" form the drop down
Then I hit update and it say "updated"

6. Fire wall in windows and router is off.

7. I enabled "allow remote connections" in system on the computer I want to connect with.

8. I had never setup my PC user name so I did that under accounts and assigned a password.

9. Went to my TP and opened RDT and put in:
"myname.kicks-***.net" under "computer"
put in my cumputer's name under "user name"
put in my computer's password under "password"
I left domain blank.

When I hit connect I get:
Cannot connect: 1) specified computer name or IP does not exist. 2) A network error occured while establishing a connection.

I can't figure it out.....What did I miss?????

DaPeeps 02-26-2009 01:44 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenmh (Post 736418)
Oh, for the love. Is MS serious?

I was in a seminar all day today. Got boring. REAL boring. Guy reading building code verbatim. So I decided I'd give RDP 6.1 a spin for the first time.

I enter the info, hit connect, and it brings up my Vista x64 desktop. Lookin' sweet. I open up my email to look for an order confirmation. About 10 seconds later, RDP disconnects. I try to connect again, but I get an error message about my connection settings. I reboot, same thing. Google for the RDP6.1 cab, download, reinstall, same thing. Now I'm getting disgruntled because my email is open at home... auto checking POP3 every 5 minutes and deleting mail off the server... so I can't even check email on my Pro the rest of the day. Try Windows Remote Workplace or whatever it's called into our server, thinking I'll RDP from my work desktop into home and shut down mail, but neither Opera nor PIE will download the ActiveX component to do that through SBS2003. So I spend the rest of the day BITTER.

I come home, turn off the phone, turn on wi-fi, and it's working fine thru LAN and WAN. Try phone data again, same problem. Install RDP6.1 on my wife's Treo 800w, it works fine. So I google around and end up here in this thread.

So I try again, manually start a data connection through Comm Manager, and now it works fine.

Seriously. MS's RDP client can't auto start a data connection? Actually, it seems it can, but just sometimes refuses to. Based on what? Mood? I mean, it worked the first time I tried it, and then just stopped. And now, having gotten it to work, I disconnected and I let 10 seconds go by for the data connection to terminate (thru Advanced Config tool option), try it again, and this time it auto starts the data connection and stays connected, even if I just let it sit there and do nothing. I even let it sit long enough for the screen to turn off, turn it back on, and the data connection / RDP session is still uninterrupted.

So I went all day without email for no reason. Stupid random Windows nonsense.


^^
This is why I don't use Remote Desktop. VNC is just all around easier in my opinion. Much cleaner and less obtrusive..and wonderful stability. I can control my PC with no problems at all...without the session timing out or lagging or anything. I truly do love it.

And to be honest, the less Microsoft products that you have to use the better. :D

dagnasty 02-26-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikenerd (Post 739441)
Can someone please check my work? Can't get it to work...dont know why.

I am using Vista and my computer is connected to a router

1. went to whatismyipaddress.com from the computer I want to access and wrote it down

2. went to dynDNS and signed up for a dynamic DNS. I checked the "host ip option" I used auto-detect ip there and it came up with the same ip from above. When I finished signing up I installed their DynDNS updater to my machine in case my ip changes

3. set up a static ip on the computer I want to conncet to.

4. Forwarded the port to the above static ip.

5. Setup DDNS in my router settings:
put in my DynDNS username for "username"
put in my DynDNS password for "password"
put in "myname.kicks-***.net" for "hostname"
selected "dynamic" form the drop down
Then I hit update and it say "updated"

6. Fire wall in windows and router is off.

7. I enabled "allow remote connections" in system on the computer I want to connect with.

8. I had never setup my PC user name so I did that under accounts and assigned a password.

9. Went to my TP and opened RDT and put in:
"myname.kicks-***.net" under "computer"
put in my cumputer's name under "user name"
put in my computer's password under "password"
I left domain blank.

When I hit connect I get:
Cannot connect: 1) specified computer name or IP does not exist. 2) A network error occured while establishing a connection.

I can't figure it out.....What did I miss?????


Can you ping your address?

mikenerd 02-26-2009 11:58 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dagnasty (Post 740574)
Can you ping your address?

Yes....

I just figured out after a lot of banging my head that since I have vista home basic I dont Have remote desktop. Damn it. I guess there is not an add-on I can get/install right?

Thanks

dagnasty 02-27-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikenerd (Post 741758)
Yes....

I just figured out after a lot of banging my head that since I have vista home basic I dont Have remote desktop. Damn it. I guess there is not an add-on I can get/install right?

Thanks

No Vista Home does not have RDP built into it. You can try VNC.

b4u2 02-27-2009 03:04 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
using VNC how long should it take to connect? VNC viewer just says "connecting to host" it's been that way for a long time now.

themaster 04-25-2009 01:33 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaPeeps (Post 739594)
^^
This is why I don't use Remote Desktop. VNC is just all around easier in my opinion. Much cleaner and less obtrusive..and wonderful stability. I can control my PC with no problems at all...without the session timing out or lagging or anything. I truly do love it.

And to be honest, the less Microsoft products that you have to use the better. :D

This is just plain ignorance.. first of Remote Desktop isn't a microsoft product.. unless microsoft bought CITRIX..

2ndly, the reason why people love citrix/terminal services.. is cause when you open a window it downloads the math of the window.. not taking a picture of it like VNC does.. this is no doubt cause citrix and microsoft have a very nice agreements in place for citrix to see the source code of windows..

Now what might be a bigger step of genuis to make Remote Desktop or VNC working better would be to have a built in DDNS client.. and or even having the program keep the port open thus eliminating the need for router configuration? maybe that's why software like logmein (a vnc clone) is popular..

esqueue 08-04-2009 05:55 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dagnasty (Post 707561)
Most routers have a setting somewhere in the control panel to add it.

Thanks, this was the thing that I didn't know about.

rdd0512 08-17-2009 07:37 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
%^#&%#^&%#^ rdm &$*&$&*(%& vnc ^)(^)&*))(&_ logmein.com god (^*%(*&%. i cant get any of this stuff to work because i cant forward my port because my )(*^(*^() router isnt on the *&)&() list at port forwarding.com is there another way to do the port crap, when i found out ehich ip address took me to my router there is no port forwarding tab in there. its an old motorolla surf board 4100 (sb4100) its not on their list. any ideas?

dagnasty 08-21-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdd0512 (Post 1105985)
%^#&%#^&%#^ rdm &$*&$&*(%& vnc ^)(^)&*))(&_ logmein.com god (^*%(*&%. i cant get any of this stuff to work because i cant forward my port because my )(*^(*^() router isnt on the *&)&() list at port forwarding.com is there another way to do the port crap, when i found out ehich ip address took me to my router there is no port forwarding tab in there. its an old motorolla surf board 4100 (sb4100) its not on their list. any ideas?

SB4100 is a cable modem, not a router. Does the network cable go from the modem directly into your PC?

rdd0512 08-22-2009 03:28 AM

Re: Setting up Remote Desktop
 
ahhhh ya i figured that out i am retarded. but yes it is plugged directly to the pc and i checked my firewall and it is supposed to allow remote desktop and i checked to make sure port 3389 was the port (by trying to add a new port for remote desktop with 3389) sorry for that retard rant ive been trying to do this for a while and well it gets pretty frustrating.


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