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After reading 4 or 5 different guides. I just broke off pin 4 from the 4 way connector that came with the pro as instructed in this post.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...+out+cable+diy
Then just plug in any 4 prong 3.5mm video cables (ipod, zune, video camera). no cutting no splicing.

you loose headset functions and just audio out if that a big deal go ask sprint for an other they will give u an other (in my experience).

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Awesome FInd !!!!!! I have a bunch of those vid cables around wasnt looking foward to splicing the cables ( Now I Dont have to :)

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what do you mean no audio out? as in.. there is no audio on the videos you play?? if that is the case your find is fairly useless.

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I think hes saying you cant use the dongle with just headphone after this mod.. Hope he clears this up b4 I pull pin 4...

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Now see that will be fine with me.. I use bluetooth stereo headphones.. so I dont care about the audio coming out of that little box as long as I get audio to my tv cause if that works then it is on like frickin donkey kong

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screw it.. Im going to break that pin 4 as soon as I get out of work.. only 7 more hours to go.. Might go grab it on my lunch break and try.. I should have a set of those video out cables for my portable dvd player..

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That is the best option I've heard of . . . I just wonder if I can find a replacement for the adapter if I ever have to return my phone? Perhaps it would be covered by insurance . . .

I made a cable out of spliced wires, and I'm not happy with the results. I'd rather try this. I hope the camcorder pinout is standard, in the past I've noticed conflicts trying to cross brands.

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cant wait to get home and break opps I mean try this out

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lol @ raydogPR sorry fellas I didnt go home for lunch.. but in a few hours I will test and post results.

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I just tested this and it does indeed work. I just used my old iPod video cable. Instead of pulling pin 4, though, I opened the box (easy with a small flat head screwdriver) and cut the BLUE wire coming from the connector. That way, I can add a switch later if I want and have it both ways! Since the blue wire is pin 4, either way will work. Good find!

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Well then 2 things.. 1 - Thank you to the OP for this tid bit.. Bravo my man.. 2 - thanks and good thinking to evilpeople on the opening and possibly adding a switch.. looks like me and Radio shack are going to have a conversation today ;)

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I had this figured out a while ago but was trying to think of a way it could be optional rather than permanent. I thought maybe if there was such a thing as a ExtUSB male-to-ExtUSB female adaptor (an extender perhaps?) then you could break the 4 pin on that but retain full use of your multi-adaptor.

I think evilpeople's idea is the best yet!

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Would this method work with the old Mogul 3.5 head-set adapter? I want to save the new one and I have a lot of old Mogul parts. :)

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Did you already have it output to your TV screen?

I'm surprised this works - because with the other method, if I plugged in the cable unconnected I got a notice asking about PAL vs. NTSC. I assumed the pin clicking in place caused the tv out signal to come up. Must the current run through the blue cable in order to provide headset sense?

If you can confirm that cutting the blue cable works - I may try to do this instead. It sounds like a quick and reversible fix.

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I can confirm that this works. Its an affordable method for video output. I just pryed open the audio output connector that came in the box and cut the blue cable. I am planning to make a switch also. All you need for this mod are tools and a 4 prong 3.5mm video cables. Good luck. Thanks Bayeb.

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Yes, I played some YouTube on my TV with lights & sound :)

To find the correct cable, I traced the signal from pin 4 to the blue wire, then to the ground on both audio jacks. So, if the blue wire is taken to ground, the TP will assume it's a headset adapter. If not, it assumes it's a video adapter.

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Where can I pick up the 3.5mm video cables from?

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This ones pretty cheap. Maybe Radioshack might have them as well.
http://www.amabilidade2002.com/video.htm

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[quote=aznmode;544960]This ones pretty cheap. Maybe Radioshack might have them as well.
http://www.amabilidade2002.com/video.htm[/quote]



Thanks, however, I want to lean towards radioshack if possible. I can get to one in 5 minutes. But I can't seem to find any on their website....

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yeah if you plug anything in to it regular headphone, 2.5 with mic, 3.5 with mic. its going to reconize it as video cable.

http://pinouts.ru/PDA/pda_audio_video_out_pinout.shtml

make sure your pinout is right on your video out cable.

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Yes, I think so! I think I've found the best way of doing this hack without having to break the adapter that comes with the Touch Pro.

I bought an adapter for $4 on EBAY (you can find it for $3) - and it can be used to make this cable! THat way you don't waste the adapter that came with your touch pro!

I just used it to make a new TV Out cable and it worked great using a $1 camcorder cable!

As soon as you've broken pin #4 on that adapter, you're done! You just have to connect the camcorder cable and you're all set to watch video on your TV.

Just to be clear, this is the adapter I used:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=310091888867

Edit on 1/6/2009 - This product has failed to work for 3 other people that I know of, so I can't recommend it anymore. I'm not sure if there's different hardware versions - but I can't guarantee that this would work because I don't believe all 3 did something wrong. Modifying the adapter that comes with the phone has had a higher level of success.

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PolloLoco your link has expired.
Will this one work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-USB-Audio-Adapter-for-HTC-Touch-Diamond-PPC-6800_W0QQitemZ120337259791QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_A ccessories?hash=item120337259791&_trksid=p3286.c0. m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240% 3A1318

Should the adapter be EXTusb, regular, or does it not matter?

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well I broke I mean opened the box cut the blue cable and pluged in my Canon camera cable for Tv vieing and it quiclky reconized the video out cable but when I pluged in it shows a black screen nothing else. I tried NTSC and PAL settings and nothing, just in case I tried the cable alone on my camera and it displayed camera images and video fine. What could it be???????????????

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which box on the adapter r u guys opening..I. the small one or big one? h r u opening it? for from the back?

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Look at post #20 on this thread. I'd actually posted that pinout guide on another thread - and Bayeb decided to borrow it I guess. If your Canon camera cable has different pinouts, you won't get video out. I believe the IPod video out configuration is the right one. It's hard to tell because I used a cheap adapter I picked up at a dollar store. It worked right away. Another thing you could try is connecting red and white into the yellow port of your TV.

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It has to be EXTusb.

Here's a current auction for the same adapter, from the same vendor.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Diamon...1%7C240%3A1318

I should note that I tried to cut into the seam first like others did for the one that came with the phone. But it was way too thick. So I decided to go the harder route of breaking pin #4. Once that's done (10 minutes tops) you're done so long as you've got the right camcorder or ipod cable.

Another reason you may not want to consider breaking the adapter that came with your phone, is that it's much more expensive to replace. It's called the "Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200" and the cheapest price I've found it for has been $15. So I decided to use my $4 EBAY adapter instead.

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How the heck do you open this box?

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better question how are you re-sealing it.. mine falls appart once I plug in a video cable.

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Well i finally got the thing apart, thanks to my wonderful girlfriends glasses kit. Works great, and went back together nicely. Thanks for the tip!!!

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Using this little box for the modification is actually pretty cool!
http://www.buygpsnow.com/img/product...525_x200_b.gif
Not only can you enclose the wiring in a nice box, but you can charge while using video out. When I get the fuze I will buy 2 of these.

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How is that any different than the one you get with the Touch Pro (except that it's a little bigger and has no cable)?

Mine also seemed fragile after putting it back together, so I put a couple of VERY SMALL drops of super glue in the corners.

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It's a lot less expensive to replace than the one that came with your touch pro. You can buy it now for $4 from EBAY. But the one that came with your touch pro has more connections - and would cost $15 + shipping to replace.

So for those that don't want to get into the Touch Pro adapter in case it's needed for a return - the $4 adapter is ideal. Also - this confirms that those who have extusb to 3.5mm adapters from the mogul can use those instead.

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I tried doing this with an old audio adapter I had from Javoedge, and a video cable for my ipod. I broke off the 4th pin, plug in the ipod video cable, and when I run the tv out it says I must have a tv out cable. Below are pics of the adapter I used, and the pin I broke off. Did I break the right one? Maybe there's some reason this adapter won't work?

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I can verify that the blue wire does indeed determine if a headset is plugged in or not. I cut mine and then carefully spliced each of the cut ends. I added on some thin wire I had laying around to each of the cut ends and used a hot glue gun to keep everything from moving as well as add insulation against shorts. I then made a small hole on the side of the casing and ran the wires out. I had to use superglue to put the top of the case back on as it wouldn't stay on without it.

If I plug in a headset and have the two wires I ran out connected, it sees the headset. If they are not connected, no headset is seen.

Unfortunately, I don't have a 4 pin jack to plug in, but I'll get one in the next day or so. I might add on a switch at some point as well.

NOTE: If you plan on cutting the wire and want to add some wire to it, I would suggest you remove the yellowish tape around the wire bundle coming in to the box, so you have more of the blue wire exposed to work with. Just make sure you use something to insulate it after removing it.

EDIT: I had a switch laying around that I connected and it worked at toggling the headphone detection on/off. It's a large switch that I won't be using for this, but it was more for testing.

EDIT2: I still don't have a video cable, but I tried plugging in a 2.5mm 4 pole headset/w mic just to see if I would get the video icon. I did not, but I think it might be due to the ROM I am using. I am using Juggalo's and I wonder if he didn't put the video output drivers in.

EDIT3: Looks like the Juggalo ROM doesn't have the TV software. If you have a ROM missing it, install the attached file.

Below is a picture of a 4 pole 3.5mm cable for anyone interested.

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archi...nouts-zune.jpg

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LOL look at the disaster that I made. Used my Mogul's old adapter that was still packaged and some Dreamcast rca cables that were also still packaged.

http://mysite.verizon.net/seaquake81...pavcable01.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/seaquake81...pavcable02.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/seaquake81...pavcable03.jpg

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I think it might still work. I had that problem with two of the adapters I broke the 4th pin on. The problem is that it didn't break all the way back, and some of the pin's material was still making a connection. So I used a clothespin to really break up the rest of the pin that was in the back and almost not visible. I was able to get both adapters to work that way, by the way.

For the record, immediately when you plug in the modified adapter (it doesn't matter if you have the camcorder cable in or not) you should see a screen pop up that asks you about PAL or NTSC. This alone should tell you whether you broke pin 4 well enough.

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Thanks for the info. I checked and the pin is broke all the way back. So it must be some problem with the adapter.

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How do you break off the pin? I am using a watch repair screwdriver kit but the screwdriver cant break the pin and things are starting to look like a teenager with a face like a peperoni pizza.

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For anyone that has the 4 pole 3.5mm working, please let us know what the cable was for (ipod video, cam corder, etc). Not all 4 pole plugs are wired the same as shown in my previous post. I want to make sure I get one that will work when I buy one.

EDIT: Looking at the thread on xda, it looks like it will need to be an ipod or zune plug to be wired correctly. A standard camcorder one looks like it will work if you plug the red cable into the video and plug the yellow into the red port. In other words, switch the red and yellow when you plug them into your TV.

This is just a guess as I don't have either of these cables to test.

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Ok i cut the blue wire and it looked like it worked but i don't see a clear picture on my tv..do i have to cut it and that's it or do i have to do something else? is it my cord it looks new? but i don't see a clear picture??? Im using the original piece that came with the Pro.

I have a cam corder plug!!!!