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jakdillard 11-07-2008 10:12 PM

Lets talk about this radio ....
 
Ok so I have took a couple of attempts to try to get the radio going I've gotten as far as initializing the radio getting it to search for stations and yes even had a successful lock the problem now is there is no sound from the internal speaker or the headset .... In my opinion it has been locked by the carrier or htc .... if you use my rom as a base you will see that I have the fm radio driver and initializing file in there .... do I think there is a way around getting the radio fully operational yes I do but at what cost .... will a rom do this NO at least not on the surface ... I think that this may be one of those wild goose chases like trying to get the wifi to work on the vogue .... where the hardware supports it but the carrier doesn't ... Now the diamond on the other hand I had no problem getting it to work on it but the sound was low but why .... maybe sprint forgot to lockup the function ..... so where is it locked down its not in the rom is it in the kernel or the spl .... huhmmmm

no2chem 11-07-2008 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 504950)
Ok so I have took a couple of attempts to try to get the radio going I've gotten as far as initializing the radio getting it to search for stations and yes even had a successful lock the problem now is there is no sound from the internal speaker or the headset .... In my opinion it has been locked by the carrier or htc .... if you use my rom as a base you will see that I have the fm radio driver and initializing file in there .... do I think there is a way around getting the radio fully operational yes I do but at what cost .... will a rom do this NO at least not on the surface ... I think that this may be one of those wild goose chases like trying to get the wifi to work on the vogue .... where the hardware supports it but the carrier doesn't ... Now the diamond on the other hand I had no problem getting it to work on it but the sound was low but why .... maybe sprint forgot to lockup the function ..... so where is it locked down its not in the rom is it in the kernel or the spl .... huhmmmm

either the physical hardware is locked down, or the SPL is preventing access to the chip.

leoiden 11-07-2008 10:41 PM

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what about comparing the spl from sprint diamond and touch pro ??

jakdillard 11-07-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 504990)
either the physical hardware is locked down, or the SPL is preventing access to the chip.

humm ok no2 how can we go about checking the spl to see if its there because I don't think the hardware is locked because we can get it to initialize just by adding files to the OEMDrivers folder but it can't find stations so correct me if I'm wrong but the spl has to do with the radio's functions right ? is it possible to rewrite the SPL or at least do some reverse engineering to it

jakdillard 11-07-2008 11:47 PM

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also what about nk.exe could it have a line in there to do with it

no2chem 11-08-2008 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 505088)
also what about nk.exe could it have a line in there to do with it

nope, its the spl/ hardware lockdown, nk has nothing to do with it.

hibby50 11-08-2008 09:57 AM

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i tried to cook it into my rom as well with the same results as jd

jakdillard 11-08-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 505439)
nope, its the spl/ hardware lockdown, nk has nothing to do with it.

ok no2 when do you wanna attempt to brick this device ( tamper with the spl to see if we can come up with something ) I got insurance I'm game ... thats if its possible

ls3mach 11-09-2008 05:17 PM

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Someone fix this please.

ruined 11-13-2008 04:30 AM

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Just a little note: I have been playing with this and I could be way off but it appears FMS.DLL calls BTHCI.DLL to communicate with the FM portion of the 6350. The touch CDMA uses version 1.43 of this and the touch GSM uses 1.90, any chance this might be some driver mismatch in the bluetooth section causing the error? (it does appear the, chip initalization files are all the same "TIInt_x_x_x.bts") Both BTHCI.DLL versions do call HCI_FMXXXX but possible there are some other differences or supporting DLLs, or the CDMA has the 6300 which has no FM radio, there is an init file for this chip....

Just changing BTHCI breaks the radio completely, so there do appear to be differences, though I am not sure my method on this was correct.

no2chem 11-13-2008 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ruined (Post 516060)
Just a little note: I have been playing with this and I could be way off but it appears FMS.DLL calls BTHCI.DLL to communicate with the FM portion of the 6350. The touch CDMA uses version 1.43 of this and the touch GSM uses 1.90, any chance this might be some driver mismatch in the bluetooth section causing the error? (it does appear the, chip initalization files are all the same "TIInt_x_x_x.bts") Both BTHCI.DLL versions do call HCI_FMXXXX but possible there are some other differences or supporting DLLs, or the CDMA has the 6300 which has no FM radio, there is an init file for this chip....

Just changing BTHCI breaks the radio completely, so there do appear to be differences, though I am not sure my method on this was correct.

well, 1.43 works fine with the diamond, my guess is spl has disabled access or the connections aren't there - both diamond+pro have the 6350.

ruined 11-13-2008 05:35 AM

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That makes sense since I did see the HCI_FM calls in both.

I am seeing actually seeing a difference in the config script TIInit_5_3_53.bts aswell. I missed this at first because the base files are the same version 2.11.34. The diffences that jump out at me are at the end, specificially in the modifiable areas for "power table" and the "custom use." Custom use would be an ideal way to turn off features. Interestingly the power table section on the CDMA even states "Modified from BRF6350_2.11_Diamond.bts" Unfortunately I only have notepad to view this in so I cant dive too deep into modding this script. Have any suggestion on a viewer?

DaPeeps 11-13-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ruined (Post 516083)
That makes sense since I did see the HCI_FM calls in both.

I am seeing actually seeing a difference in the config script TIInit_5_3_53.bts aswell. I missed this at first because the base files are the same version 2.11.34. The diffences that jump out at me are at the end, specificially in the modifiable areas for "power table" and the "custom use." Custom use would be an ideal way to turn off features. Interestingly the power table section on the CDMA even states "Modified from BRF6350_2.11_Diamond.bts" Unfortunately I only have notepad to view this in so I cant dive too deep into modding this script. Have any suggestion on a viewer?

Many thanks for looking into this. I hope yo get it working....that would be awesome!

MaskedLion 11-13-2008 03:33 PM

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I might would use this feature 4 or 5 times a year, but I would like to have it for those 4 to 5 times, especially since the hardware is already in the device. So where to go from here?

superevilllama 11-13-2008 03:44 PM

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This reminds me of the way GPS was locked on mogul for so long... Sigh.. they did it again.

madzilla 11-13-2008 09:47 PM

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DAMN YOU SCOOBA STEVE! DAMN YOU! err i mean DAMN YOU HTC! DAMN YOU!

jparks29 11-14-2008 08:09 PM

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xvi32

leoiden 11-14-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jparks29 (Post 520112)

and what does this attachment mean??????????????

yangers 11-14-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by leoiden (Post 520160)
and what does this attachment mean??????????????

Is a Hexadecimal editor.

ruined 11-15-2008 03:22 AM

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Well, not much progress. I located the platform enable/disable section in TIInit_5_3_53.bts, altering the 2 bytes there to duplicate the gsm version caused the fmradio to go into the spinning wheel of death. Its better than an unexpected error but no closer to a solution. Of course it can never be an easy solution.

flyers2114 11-15-2008 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MaskedLion (Post 516942)
I might would use this feature 4 or 5 times a year, but I would like to have it for those 4 to 5 times, especially since the hardware is already in the device. So where to go from here?

Wait....

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Originally Posted by superevilllama (Post 516971)
This reminds me of the way GPS was locked on mogul for so long... Sigh.. they did it again.

Good point....

dajeepman 11-15-2008 08:09 PM

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Yep im just setting on my hands and waiting...

ls3mach 11-16-2008 04:40 PM

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FIX IT PLEASE!!! I want this BADLY. :) Maybe we should start a paypal pool. I am in for $5.

hempy 11-16-2008 10:05 PM

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I would definitely donate for a working fm radio. I win a lot of tickets through my local college station and it would be well worth it for just about any price!

starscalling 11-17-2008 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ls3mach (Post 523065)
FIX IT PLEASE!!! I want this BADLY. :) Maybe we should start a paypal pool. I am in for $5.

ditto!!

t0mmyr 11-17-2008 09:58 AM

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no2chem, you're using sprint right? does the fm radio work on your touch pro?

aceracer24 11-17-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by t0mmyr (Post 524434)
no2chem, you're using sprint right? does the fm radio work on your touch pro?

I believe he has already stated that it does not. I am pretty sure though that if/when he does get it to work, if he has not given up on it, he will post it.

krnfrk6663 11-18-2008 01:52 PM

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Don't quote me on this, but I remember reading somewhere on the Verizon's version's stats that is had an FM Radio...

imneveral0ne 11-18-2008 05:03 PM

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link to that, cause i sure havent seen that anywhere

DAMBRO24 11-18-2008 10:20 PM

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did everyone quit on this yet?

DAMBRO24 11-18-2008 10:28 PM

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oh my , please get this bad boy going

cornelious2 11-18-2008 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMBRO24 (Post 528268)
oh my , please get this bad boy going

...:violent2:

BigDiesel07 11-18-2008 10:54 PM

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Is it possible to merge this thread with this one...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43157

Basically same thing... Thanks...

I would be in for $5 for the paypal pool to get the FM radio to work... You are sure the hardware is in place right?

And like the GPS for the Mogul, there is always hope

DAMBRO24 11-20-2008 10:41 AM

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I am one of those people who would love!!!! for this radio to work , but no one has answered the question of how does it work. we know the diamond has it working , so lets ask them , does this radio work as good as a fm radio or when we finally get it working will we be very disappointed with the quality? anyone here have a diamond?

kevank 11-20-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMBRO24 (Post 531359)
I am one of those people who would love!!!! for this radio to work , but no one has answered the question of how does it work. we know the diamond has it working , so lets ask them , does this radio work as good as a fm radio or when we finally get it working will we be very disappointed with the quality? anyone here have a diamond?

My wife has a Diamond and the radio works really well. It sounds good and the reception is pretty good.

cornelious2 11-20-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMBRO24 (Post 531359)
I am one of those people who would love!!!! for this radio to work , but no one has answered the question of how does it work. we know the diamond has it working , so lets ask them , does this radio work as good as a fm radio or when we finally get it working will we be very disappointed with the quality? anyone here have a diamond?

first if your wanting to ask about how the diamond users are doing with the radio, you might want to try the diamond section. second, just be patient its going to be alot more complicated to get it working on the TP.

krnfrk6663 11-21-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by imneveral0ne (Post 527620)
link to that, cause i sure havent seen that anywhere

Went looking, I can't find it. It was in one of these forums, linked to the stat sheet, said on there FM Radio. That's all I remember, if I come across it, I'll gladly link it.

imneveral0ne 11-21-2008 03:40 AM

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I dont think JD wants to talk about this radio anymore :-p

Exil3d 11-21-2008 02:48 PM

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I will donate 100 hip hip hurrays for anyone who unlocks it for the PRO.

DAMBRO24 11-23-2008 08:14 PM

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im looking at my phone right now , wondering if it will convert over to a fm radio soon, I have a car pc and if this works it changes my car experience times 10, ill donate $5 bucks as well, im in


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