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John Lessnau 11-06-2008 05:39 PM

Fastmail IMAP setup
 
Anyone have any luck setting up fastmail as an IMAP email account? I was able to do so with snapper mail on the old treo but the built in email client wants me to do auto setup which forces me into pop3. When I try to edit, pop3/imap dropdown is grayed out.

Any ideas? Should I change email programs. Or maybe move to yahoo.mail since I am hearing their IMAP service is pretty slick - and free.

mike171562 11-06-2008 05:41 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
get a gmail account, they have free POP and IMAP as well as free spam filtering and over 2G's of storage. Gmail kicks ***.

John Lessnau 11-06-2008 05:48 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
I didn't know Gmail has Imap now. But they don't really have a folder system. How is fastmail going to get people to spend $40 per year when people are giving IMAP away free. And the fastmail online interface and settings are about 5 years since the last update.

Unknown Zone 11-06-2008 06:00 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
You have to enable IMAP in setting with Gmail...also Gmail will now get mail from other email account...so that you only need Gmail for all email activities.

John Lessnau 11-06-2008 06:27 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
I may need to try Gmail but I here it is extremely slow compared to fastmail and I get a ton of email so this could be an issue.

DaPeeps 11-06-2008 06:36 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lessnau (Post 502111)
I may need to try Gmail but I here it is extremely slow compared to fastmail and I get a ton of email so this could be an issue.

I dont know who told you its slow but they are wrong. I have been using gmail for 3 years now and have never had a slowness issue once. Gmail beats the hell out of yahoo mail. Trust me.

Anyway, to set it up with imap...when you're first setting up your account, misspell your email address (example: you@fastmal.com). Misspell fastmail. The email client wont force you to autosetup...allowing you to chose imap and input server settings automatically. Then, when setup is complete, go back and edit the email address and make it correct.

heberman 11-06-2008 06:46 PM

Another vote for gmail
 
I have a paid fastmail account, but I recently switched over to Gmail's imap.

You won't regret it. Gmail is fast, free, and currently has about 8 gig of free storage.

While Gmail doesn't have folders, it has labels, which are similar to folders. Also, gmail's web client has tons of new features which integrate into various browsers.

I have a yahoo account also, but hardly ever use it because Gmail is vastly superior to both Yahoo and fastmail.

Tahde 11-06-2008 06:48 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
I have Gmail as well. I've never had any problems. I also think its rather quick.

aceracer24 11-06-2008 06:51 PM

Re: Another vote for gmail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heberman (Post 502183)
While Gmail doesn't have folders, it has labels, which are similar to folders.

The problem is that WinMo won't treat the labels as folders. Also, even though Gmail has IMAP, you won't be able to use push mailwith it. You will have to use a 3rd party app to use push mail. I sure hope Gmail changes that some day.

John Lessnau 11-06-2008 06:54 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scottsimon1979 (Post 502141)
I dont know who told you its slow but they are wrong. I have been using gmail for 3 years now and have never had a slowness issue once. Gmail beats the hell out of yahoo mail. Trust me.

I never liked fastmail's clunky old school interface but there are a ton of Fastmail zealots out there that wouldn't use anything else. Anyway, I set up a second clean Gmail account to forward all my email accounts to then will us IMAP to hit it wih my phone.

John Lessnau 11-06-2008 06:59 PM

Re: Another vote for gmail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aceracer24 (Post 502201)
The problem is that WinMo won't treat the labels as folders. Also, even though Gmail has IMAP, you won't be able to use push mailwith it. You will have to use a 3rd party app to use push mail. I sure hope Gmail changes that some day.

Hmmm, I really need some type of folder system. I get tons of auto emails that I need to filter to get to my core emails I need to read and act on. If snapper mail has a windows mobile version that will handle labels as folder perhaps I can live with that since I already and used to snapper mail.

DaPeeps 11-06-2008 07:15 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
I dont understand the huge need for pushmail...I just let winmo poll the server every 5 mins and im fine. doesnt kill my battery or anythng.

DaPeeps 11-06-2008 07:17 PM

Re: Another vote for gmail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lessnau (Post 502221)
Hmmm, I really need some type of folder system. I get tons of auto emails that I need to filter to get to my core emails I need to read and act on. If snapper mail has a windows mobile version that will handle labels as folder perhaps I can live with that since I already and used to snapper mail.

Gmails jumk mail system is EXCELLENT. I get a CRAPLOAD of junk email...but never see ANY of it. it ALL goes to the junk folder. VERY VERY reliable. The only email account I have been able to keep longer than a year without ditching because of junkmail flooding. My inbox is only mail addressed to me, that I want to see. Only once did an email I was waiting for (a forum registration email) go to my junk box.

eptd 11-06-2008 07:33 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
I use mail2web and have zero problems with it. I upgraded to the $5/mo service and now can use my gmail as my "from" address. All my emails come in instantly just like my blackberry did.

heberman 11-06-2008 07:35 PM

Re: Another vote for gmail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lessnau (Post 502221)
Hmmm, I really need some type of folder system. I get tons of auto emails that I need to filter to get to my core emails I need to read and act on. If snapper mail has a windows mobile version that will handle labels as folder perhaps I can live with that since I already and used to snapper mail.

It kind of works like folders - at least it does for me. In gmail (on the pc) I set up a label titled "to do". On my phone, I move messages I need to deal with later into the "to do" folder. Then when I am on the pc later, I can click on the "to do" label and see all of the emails I put there.

I guess it depends on how you use it.

heberman 11-06-2008 07:40 PM

Re: Another vote for gmail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scottsimon1979 (Post 502268)
Gmails jumk mail system is EXCELLENT. I get a CRAPLOAD of junk email...but never see ANY of it. it ALL goes to the junk folder. VERY VERY reliable. The only email account I have been able to keep longer than a year without ditching because of junkmail flooding. My inbox is only mail addressed to me, that I want to see. Only once did an email I was waiting for (a forum registration email) go to my junk box.

Agreed. I just checked my gmail account. I currently have 1,695 emails which were automatically marked as spam and put in the spam folder. It apparently deletes spam older than 30 days. That means gmail has saved me from dealing with 57 emails a day, on average, which are spam.

Don't tell gmail, but I would be willing to pay $100 a year or more for gmail, google calendar, etc. But free is better.

John Lessnau 11-06-2008 10:04 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scottsimon1979 (Post 502258)
I dont understand the huge need for pushmail...I just let winmo poll the server every 5 mins and im fine. doesnt kill my battery or anythng.

Yeah, I don't need push mail. I just like to download messages when I am away from the office. Every 30 minutes is fine. But I do need the tons of confirmation and automated type messages I get to be filtered into the correct labels and then be able to see my human customer messages in the inbox.

When I first started with mobile messages on my old Treo, I'd need to scroll through hundreds of emails to find the important ones, then I discovered IMAP and filtering to folders via Fastmail like I do at home with outlook.

I wouldn't mind moving to Gmail if I can get the labels to act as folders with google IMAP. Fastmail filters are a pain to set up and the online interface is horrible +it costs money. Also, Gmail spam filtering is much better than fastmail's.

John Lessnau 11-07-2008 01:20 AM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
Ok, I set up a Gmail account and have 3 of my main email accounts sending there via pop3 and set to leave on server.

Everything is fine, I set up a few labels for some of the messages I don't want to see in my inbox when on my phone.

Some messages came in and the all were added to the labels I created but they also still are in my main inbox. So I have about 20 auto-emails from paypal in my inbox. I don't need to see those on my phone unless I want to see what came in or research something.

So I logged in with my phone and all messages I received (including the 20 or so paypal emails and other various auto emails I labeled) are showing up on the main gmail inbox plus in the labels. So I have about 3 emails out of 40 or 50 I need to look at but they all are in mixed in my gmail in box with all the emails I wanted to filter out to labels.

I get 100s of emails a day and I need to have them filtered to various labels so I don't have to search through my gmail inbox on my tiny 3 inch screen TP screen. It seems the label thing just tags an email for sorting but doesn't really move it anywhere. Either Gmail won't work for me, or I am doing something wrong. Maybe Snapper mail would filter the labeled messages out of the inbox?

Anyone out there get lots of emails that uses Gmail? How do you filter out the auto emails you don't need to look at right away out of your inbox so you just see the main emails from friends or human customers? I double checked all my filters and every email has the label I created and and the default inbox label. Is there a way to remove the default inbox label when filtering to a created label. Sorry, I have always been a very light gmail user. I need help from a power user.

CareTake12 11-07-2008 02:08 AM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
What the difference between pop and imap?

John Lessnau 11-07-2008 10:44 AM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
With Pop3, all of your emails are dumped to your email program. Which is fine with a robust desktop program that can filter those messages to folders and do spam checks, but mobile phone programs don't have this kind of power.

IMAP lets you look at your mail server, in my case, i am trying to get Gmail to work. Gmail does the heavy lifting, sorting and filtering spam and all the mobile phone needs to do is look at the gmail and show me the emails and where they are sorted to. If you read my post above, I am having trouble with IMAP and Google filtering

John Lessnau 11-07-2008 01:24 PM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
Ok, I figured out what to do. When filtering message to labels, there is also a check box to also move to archive, this archives the message out of the inbox and moves the message to the label. Problem solved.

Now my next problem is that I really don't like the built in email app as compared to Snappermail. Snappermail seemed to have many more features. I'll give the built in app a bit of a chance before a make any changes though.

MaryGladys 11-10-2008 11:40 AM

Re: Another vote for gmail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aceracer24 (Post 502201)
The problem is that WinMo won't treat the labels as folders. Also, even though Gmail has IMAP, you won't be able to use push mailwith it. You will have to use a 3rd party app to use push mail. I sure hope Gmail changes that some day.

My labels are folders on both my Desktop and Mobile versions of Outlook using GMail. And I can DEFINITELY send and receive email with the account. It's nice.

My only gripe and I am looking for a solution....is that in receiving my email, it takes FOREVER to download on my phone. I do better to go to http://gmail.com and check it that way. Sending is fairly fast, though. I guess that is the price for free :-).

MaryGladys 11-10-2008 11:46 AM

Re: Fastmail IMAP setup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lessnau (Post 503099)
Ok, I set up a Gmail account and have 3 of my main email accounts sending there via pop3 and set to leave on server.

Everything is fine, I set up a few labels for some of the messages I don't want to see in my inbox when on my phone.

Some messages came in and the all were added to the labels I created but they also still are in my main inbox. So I have about 20 auto-emails from paypal in my inbox. I don't need to see those on my phone unless I want to see what came in or research something.

So I logged in with my phone and all messages I received (including the 20 or so paypal emails and other various auto emails I labeled) are showing up on the main gmail inbox plus in the labels. So I have about 3 emails out of 40 or 50 I need to look at but they all are in mixed in my gmail in box with all the emails I wanted to filter out to labels.

I get 100s of emails a day and I need to have them filtered to various labels so I don't have to search through my gmail inbox on my tiny 3 inch screen TP screen. It seems the label thing just tags an email for sorting but doesn't really move it anywhere. Either Gmail won't work for me, or I am doing something wrong. Maybe Snapper mail would filter the labeled messages out of the inbox?

Anyone out there get lots of emails that uses Gmail? How do you filter out the auto emails you don't need to look at right away out of your inbox so you just see the main emails from friends or human customers? I double checked all my filters and every email has the label I created and and the default inbox label. Is there a way to remove the default inbox label when filtering to a created label. Sorry, I have always been a very light gmail user. I need help from a power user.

If you go to http://gmail.com and to Settings, you can create rules or filters there. I would recommend you create rules to move those emails to your labels and then delete the email from the inbox. It's a two step rule. I have done this with some of my emails......


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