Touch Pro Battery life!!! Post your reviews!!

[Arterion]

It's a feature of Lithium Ion batteries. They're very sensitive -- remember the exploding laptop batteries? Those were LiIon batteries. They can explode under certain conditions. I am pretty certain that it's probably safe to charge them while the phone is hot, but I am guessing that HTC set the values to be VERY conservative because of all the accidents people have had using LiIon batteries.

What shocks me is that you can't run the phone solely off external power. You should be able to just remove your battery and run the phone off external power. Can anyone confirm that this isn't possible?

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by saqer

Ok. I just got off the phone with HTC technical support and they told me this is a safety feature. Upon closer inspection of the manual I found the csr was right. On p.32 of the HTC Touch Pro manual it states, "as a safety precaution, the battery stops charging when it overheats." The caveat is you can't take out the battery and charge directly as this could damage your device. So, when it comes down to it, these devices aren't really capable of making prolonged voice calling without having to end it and change battery. Are all smartphones like this?

No way. They wouldn't sell.

My Touch never did this. My brother's and close friend's 6700 never did this. My company has a fleet of Treo 700wx that don't do this either.

Sounds like the radio is heating up, and causing the heat to "trigger" the battery heat protection.

I don't see how the current being drawn is enough to heat the battery which is why I think it's residual heat instead.

[saqer]

Originally Posted by saqer

That's what I thought, but I remebbered that there's an option to do that with USB where you can have it so it doesn't charge the phone via usb. I don't know if it would still power it though.

Originally Posted by Arterion

It's a feature of Lithium Ion batteries. They're very sensitive -- remember the exploding laptop batteries? Those were LiIon batteries. They can explode under certain conditions. I am pretty certain that it's probably safe to charge them while the phone is hot, but I am guessing that HTC set the values to be VERY conservative because of all the accidents people have had using LiIon batteries.

What shocks me is that you can't run the phone solely off external power. You should be able to just remove your battery and run the phone off external power. Can anyone confirm that this isn't possible?

Don't do this. The manual specifically says so. I wouldn't risk frying circuitry.

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by Arterion

It's a feature of Lithium Ion batteries. They're very sensitive -- remember the exploding laptop batteries? Those were LiIon batteries. They can explode under certain conditions. I am pretty certain that it's probably safe to charge them while the phone is hot, but I am guessing that HTC set the values to be VERY conservative because of all the accidents people have had using LiIon batteries.

What shocks me is that you can't run the phone solely off external power. You should be able to just remove your battery and run the phone off external power. Can anyone confirm that this isn't possible?

You think this is inside the battery itself? If so, I wonder if we could somehow reprogram it, or purchase a different battery?

[saqer]

Originally Posted by ScrapMaker

No way. They wouldn't sell.

My Touch never did this. My brother's and close friend's 6700 never did this. My company has a fleet of Treo 700wx that don't do this either.

Sounds like the radio is heating up, and causing the heat to "trigger" the battery heat protection.

I don't see how the current being drawn is enough to heat the battery which is why I think it's residual heat instead.

So could it be possible that future versions of the radio rom generate less heat? I don't see how that could be possible.

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by saqer

So could it be possible that future versions of the radio rom generate less heat? I don't see how that could be possible.

While that is possible, I don't think that there are multiple radio versions yet.

Though, the radio firmware COULD be the issue, if it's polling too often, or otherwise being inefficient. You would be surprised at what software can affect.

[nFKT]

Wow glad to see I'm not the only one, my phone died today while running tomtom on the way back home from a business trip while on the charger. I'm STILL trying to get it to 50% so that I can flash it and that was almost an hour ago!

[Insoc]

Originally Posted by ScrapMaker

Wow, so I'm not the only one...

I used my Touch on a near daily-basis with the speakerphone, while charging, and not once did I notice it DRAINING.

So am just making a regular phone call, with no wifi enabled, no data connection, and bluetooth is not connected either (but is "on") -- wow, I really hope I get a new one without these issues (and with a heat-plate)

AFAIK, none of the Sprint TPs have the heat plate.

As you are one of the most vocal people here about problems, I am surprised you don't remember Criticalaudioinc talking about heat and polling issues before the TP was released...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=116

This reply is in reference to the Diamond:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=125

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by Insoc

As you are one of the most vocal people here about problems, I am surprised you don't remember Criticalaudioinc talking about heat and polling issues before the TP was released...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=116

This reply is in reference to the Diamond:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=125

I followed that thread closely. Doesn't necessarily point out anything that would indicate that the batteries would shut off... just that it was missing a heat shield on the Diamonds.. not necessarily on the TP though.

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by nFKT

Wow glad to see I'm not the only one, my phone died today while running tomtom on the way back home from a business trip while on the charger. I'm STILL trying to get it to 50% so that I can flash it and that was almost an hour ago!

Is there a ROM worth flashing to? I hadn't even had a chance to see if we got a working bootloader...