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kabuk1 11-23-2009 02:21 AM

#777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Apparently I cannot have my cake & eat it too with this phone. I use Adv. Config to set the data to disconnect after 1 minute, then I use SKtools's reg editor to change the GPRS_if_bye setting in the registry to #777. So theoretically I should now be able to not worry about a constant data connection sucking my battery dry, nor should I have any problems answering it if I'm on an active data connection, right? WRONG. I have found that the #777 edit somehow disables the automatic disconnect setting even though it still says it's enabled. I have sat & watched the arrows & they just don't disconnect. I have to manually disconnect the data. It works just fine if I leave the GPRS key intact, but then I can't answer my phone when it rings.

My question is- why does it do this? Does anyone have these same results with these 2 edits & has anyone figured out a workaround? I don't wanna have to choose between the 2. I've been choosing the #777 over auto-DC but I'd like to have both.

strra 11-23-2009 03:05 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
try this:
Code:

HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
Set "SuspendResume" to 58 00 00 00 33 00 99 00 88 00 39 00 58 00 39 00 29
Set "CacheTime" to 60


kabuk1 11-23-2009 05:21 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Thanks. This seems to work except that it wakes the device & goes to 1x whenever it disconnects.

EDIT- NM, it only did that once. Works great. Thanks!

karate134 11-23-2009 09:56 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Can someone cab that?

strra 11-23-2009 11:51 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karate134 (Post 1354018)
Can someone cab that?

i've tried to cab it in the past but it fails on install every time for some reason. i'll try again when i get to work

strra 11-23-2009 01:16 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by karate134 (Post 1354018)
Can someone cab that?

try this

japper88 11-23-2009 01:47 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
What does this registry change do exactly?
(What is different in this value than just #777?)

EDIT: this does not work for me, the data does not disconnect, also when a call comes in it lets you answer but there is a 3 second delay between the time i slide accept and the call connects...

mswlogo 12-16-2009 03:28 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strra (Post 1354582)
try this

This CAB seems to solve a few things.

Better battery (it does seem to take a slight amount of power in standby).
It solves the #777 Popup messages.
It solves the the Hangup issues.

But I noticed the Brain Dead HTC weather didn't update. I suspect it may be 60 seconds is too short so I bumped it 120 seconds.

malibu_23 12-16-2009 09:24 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
So that Cab will automatically disconnect my net connection, after it lets say, syncs my mail or updates my weather? or is it a tweak to an actual program?

strra 12-17-2009 12:03 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malibu_23 (Post 1419002)
So that Cab will automatically disconnect my net connection, after it lets say, syncs my mail or updates my weather? or is it a tweak to an actual program?

yeah, it's supposed to automatically disconnect your data after 1 minute of non-use (after updating weather, email, browsing, etc)

mswlogo 12-17-2009 12:50 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strra (Post 1419440)
yeah, it's supposed to automatically disconnect your data after 1 minute of non-use (after updating weather, email, browsing, etc)

I think it's 1 minute after the phone goes to sleep. Which is great. But I bumped it to 2 minutes.

malibu_23 12-17-2009 01:11 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
niiiiice! y am i just now finding out this exists!

InsomniacJedi 12-19-2009 06:49 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Will e-mail still download automatically after I install this, or will I have to tell it to send/receive?

strra 12-19-2009 06:55 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by InsomniacJedi (Post 1425762)
Will e-mail still download automatically after I install this, or will I have to tell it to send/receive?

outlook will establish a connection and 1 minute after it's done sending/receiving, it'll disconnect

InsomniacJedi 12-19-2009 07:34 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
That's awesome! Hopefully this will lengthen my battery life. Thanks man!

mswlogo 12-19-2009 08:00 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1418055)
This CAB seems to solve a few things.

Better battery (it does seem to take a slight amount of power in standby).
It solves the #777 Popup messages.
It solves the the Hangup issues.

But I noticed the Brain Dead HTC weather didn't update. I suspect it may be 60 seconds is too short so I bumped it 120 seconds.

This tweak is definitely an improvement but the brain dead HTC Weather update sort of breaks a lot of it's advantage. It can't update weather when the phone a asleep. So as soon as I turn the phone on to make a call it makes a connection to update weather. I make my call and then have the hang up issue and #777 pop up. Did I say HTC weather was brain dead.

If you shut HTC weather update off. It works great. And Apps that know how to make a connection while asleep work fine (e.g. Pocket Weather).

Recursion 12-19-2009 08:23 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Thanks for the cab!

mawst95 12-19-2009 09:58 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Has anyone done a rigorous analysis of how much battery is drained by a persistent connection (e.g. activesync)?

InsomniacJedi 12-19-2009 10:36 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mawst95 (Post 1426085)
Has anyone done a rigorous analysis of how much battery is drained by a persistent connection (e.g. activesync)?

I'm trying it out now to see how much power it saves.

I'll let you know what I find.

InsomniacJedi 12-20-2009 08:44 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Ok, I installed it and checked out the battery life.

I had automatic weather update running and e-mail updating every 5 minutes. I saw an extra 2 hours out of my phone with it installed.

Today I am testing it out with e-mail updating every 15 minutes and weather not updating automatically.

Q_Q 02-03-2010 02:50 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by japper88 (Post 1354682)
What does this registry change do exactly?
(What is different in this value than just #777?)

EDIT: this does not work for me, the data does not disconnect, also when a call comes in it lets you answer but there is a 3 second delay between the time i slide accept and the call connects...

Is this still an issue or related to the "gprs" input in the code line?

Q_Q 02-03-2010 07:21 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1419522)
I think it's 1 minute after the phone goes to sleep. Which is great. But I bumped it to 2 minutes.

so is it non-use or sleep in which data disconnects?

tmanner 02-03-2010 08:47 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
ok this is great. now what is the fix to be able to answer a call when i am using the internet? someone please post the registry edit that will fix my not being able to answer the darn phone when i am on the web!

Mojary 02-03-2010 10:43 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
giving it a whirl right now. but some questions.
1. will this affect stealth tethering?
2. im not seeing this in the programs folder...is it not supposed to be there?
3. will the hack work even if the app (like Opera) is open but is inactive? or will it terminate connection for inactivity regardless if the app is open or not?

will any of these installed on my phone affect this hack from working properly?
cmylxgo's big pimp package
manila no push internet
ssk tp2 dynamic resource proxy


***UPDATE***
regarding phone calls. just received a call from mom. tried to answer it on the first ring using the actual answer button. answering it using the phone button did not pick up call and also made the phone discontinue ringing. so that tells me that the phone thinks i answered the phone already. but if you look on the screen, it's still flashing "incoming call". had to use the slider on the screen to answer call...which brings me back to my next topic.

...CONFIRMED....
when call is answered with the slider, there's about a 2-3 second delay before the call is actually connected.

3. just tested it to see if hack will disconnect if app like opera is open but left inactive. it's a yes and no answer. no because the connection did not terminate after a minute of inactivity. the data icon was still showing on task bar. but once i closed Opera, data icon reverted back to the antenna icon. re-tried connecting to the net with opera. but this time, i closed opera to see if it would disconnect after a minute. after 5 minutes, data did not disconnect.

tried to see if the same would happen for messaging. tried to poll one of my emails. after polling was finished, closed the email. did not instantly disconnect data (like it did with opera)....in fact, did not disconnect at all after 2 minutes of waiting. same thing with using IE browser.

before installation, if i ran opera and went to a website, if i exited the browser, the data icon would still be showing on my task bar. had to do a "forced disconnect" to stop the data connection. but this hack work sooo good that as soon as i closed opera, it terminated the data connection. didn't even have to wait 'til the full minute was up!!

based on my testing on stock ROM, it only terminated connection for my Opera browser (using Opera 10b2). not for anything else that i use that needs connection to pull data to my phone.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tmanner (Post 1539075)
ok this is great. now what is the fix to be able to answer a call when i am using the internet? someone please post the registry edit that will fix my not being able to answer the darn phone when i am on the web!

did not experience this. when mom's call came in, i had opera up and running. but i don't know if it made the difference, but i had the opera running in the background/minimized while i was in my programs folder.

sorry for the long post guys/gals...just wanted to give detailed feedback regarding the cab that strra made.

Q_Q 02-03-2010 11:55 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Ok - here are my tests on a stock Sprint ROM:

1) Call answer:
*** from sleep mode & awake mode:
>> NO to answer call with phone button on 1st try
>> YES to subsequent tries with button & with slider on screen

2) Call Answer with browser on:
>> NO to answer call with phone button on 1st try
>> YES to subsequent tries with button & with slider on screen!!
>> LOST data connection in some instances!!

3) Observing data connection arrows in taskbar icons:
>> 1 min - still connected after activity
>> 2 min - still connected after activity
>> 5 min - still connected after activity
>> Forced Sleep - disconnected

4) Observing data connection arrows in taskbar icons after forced sleep:
>> UNABLE TO CONNECT to mail services
>> UNABLE TO CONNECT to weather manual update
>> UNABLE TO CONNECT Opera
>> #777 unable to dial popup on all occasion

So from my test - it appears when that the TP2 has trouble reconnecting instantaneously after a prolonged inactivity period but once out of it's hibernation it's acts as the cab intended - turning off data connection after activity & answer calls when needed.

this is unacceptable on my part esp. knowing the importance of email to me.

UPDATE:
All of my problems above were solved with this cab HERE
or THIS.

You should read the background before instituting the fix.
Hope this helps some1 trying to save some battery.

nayr1482 02-04-2010 09:09 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strra (Post 1353813)
try this:
Code:

HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
Set "SuspendResume" to 58 00 00 00 33 00 99 00 88 00 39 00 58 00 39 00 29
Set "CacheTime" to 60


do we know what the values for SuspendResume do/mean ??? meaning - does the 58 mean suspend after 58 seconds if inactivity, etc... ??? what do these values mean ?

tkjames 02-04-2010 12:20 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Okay, so are you using the #777 cab AND the cab from the first page of this thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q_Q (Post 1539530)
Ok - here are my tests on a stock Sprint ROM:

1) Call answer:
*** from sleep mode & awake mode:
>> NO to answer call with phone button on 1st try
>> YES to subsequent tries with button & with slider on screen

2) Call Answer with browser on:
>> NO to answer call with phone button on 1st try
>> YES to subsequent tries with button & with slider on screen!!
>> LOST data connection in some instances!!

3) Observing data connection arrows in taskbar icons:
>> 1 min - still connected after activity
>> 2 min - still connected after activity
>> 5 min - still connected after activity
>> Forced Sleep - disconnected

4) Observing data connection arrows in taskbar icons after forced sleep:
>> UNABLE TO CONNECT to mail services
>> UNABLE TO CONNECT to weather manual update
>> UNABLE TO CONNECT Opera
>> #777 unable to dial popup on all occasion

So from my test - it appears when that the TP2 has trouble reconnecting instantaneously after a prolonged inactivity period but once out of it's hibernation it's acts as the cab intended - turning off data connection after activity & answer calls when needed.

this is unacceptable on my part esp. knowing the importance of email to me.

UPDATE:
All of my problems above were solved with this cab HERE
or THIS.

You should read the background before instituting the fix.
Hope this helps some1 trying to save some battery.


Q_Q 02-04-2010 12:25 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkjames (Post 1540527)
Okay, so are you using the #777 cab AND the cab from the first page of this thread?

Yes.

The #777 cab essentially undo's the "SuspendResume" part to #777 & fixed my broken issues.

tkjames 02-04-2010 02:45 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Do you or anyone else still have problems with a delay in answering the phone with both of these cabs installed? Or is it working perfectly, i.e. your data connections times out in a timely manner AND you are able to answer your calls properly?

Q_Q 02-04-2010 03:29 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkjames (Post 1540944)
Do you or anyone else still have problems with a delay in answering the phone with both of these cabs installed? Or is it working perfectly, i.e. your data connections times out in a timely manner AND you are able to answer your calls properly?

@ first glance - it appears the data connections is still ALWAYS ON.
I haven't had a chance to test it today yet.

The #777 seems to negates any deficiencies or benefits for me. :???:

tkjames 02-04-2010 03:35 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Hmmm...I'm a bit hesitant about the cab in this thread. No disrespect to the developer; I just don't want to have call answering problems again. I have my mail set to check every 4 hours, and I just cut off the automatic update on the weather (those are the only two things I can think of that would automatically cut data back on), so I'll see if that garners any improvements.

tkjames 02-05-2010 03:24 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Any other feedback about these two cabs working together?

Mike5150 02-06-2010 11:52 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Not working for me. I have both cabs installed, but the arrows are constantly on. I'm going to try uninstalling both cabs and manually change the registry values like in the second post of this thread to see if it makes a difference.

Is this a problem with every Touch Pro 2, or is it with certain ROM's or just a random occurance? I didn't really notice much of a problem myself until I flashed to the EnergyROM Phoenix. I'm really liking the ROM though, so I would hate to have to flash back to something else.

Mike5150 02-06-2010 01:33 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike5150 (Post 1545829)
Not working for me. I have both cabs installed, but the arrows are constantly on. I'm going to try uninstalling both cabs and manually change the registry values like in the second post of this thread to see if it makes a difference.

I uninstalled both Cabs, manually changed the registry values (which neither of the cabs did btw) and restarted my phone, but it still looks like the data connection will not shut off.

nayr1482 02-06-2010 02:19 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
hi guys, can you check something for me?

when my connection hangs on the "connection present not active" icon, if I press the red hang up button (physical button) on the phone, my connection icon will then go to no connection present.

this has worked for me 100% of the time so far (havent check it that many times though).

can the rest of you try it and see if you get the same behavior and report back?

obviously i have not figured out what is going on yet just trying to see if the same thing works for you guys :D




Thanks,
Ryan

Q_Q 02-06-2010 05:19 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nayr1482 (Post 1546155)
hi guys, can you check something for me?

when my connection hangs on the "connection present not active" icon, if I press the red hang up button (physical button) on the phone, my connection icon will then go to no connection present.

this has worked for me 100% of the time so far (havent check it that many times though).

Thanks,
Ryan

Ryan - that red hang up button is mapped by you to terminate data connection on demand.
It's in the All Settings>Personal>Button>EndKey.

So while it does terminate your data connection, how does this help the disconnect automation we are looking for without the negative side effects?

nayr1482 02-06-2010 07:32 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Q_Q (Post 1546501)
Ryan - that red hang up button is mapped by you to terminate data connection on demand.
It's in the All Settings>Personal>Button>EndKey.

So while it does terminate your data connection, how does this help the disconnect automation we are looking for without the negative side effects?

i checked there and my end key is not mapped to anything.

i was just trying to verify if this works for everyone. if it does maybe we can figure out a fix - maybe create a link to the end key in the registry somehow ??? dont know...

nayr1482 02-07-2010 10:46 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
guys, i have been testing a "fix" for the not being able to answer phone calls issue and so far it has been working for me.

would some of you also try it and let me know? still trying to figure out how to get the data connection to drop without pressing the end key...


anyway - I changed the reg edit for SuspendResume, the orignal change we tried was:


HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
Set "SuspendResume" to 58 00 00 00 33 00 99 00 88 00 39 00 58 00 39 00 29
Set "CacheTime" to 60


I am currently running:

HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
Set "SuspendResume" to !~GPRS
Set "CacheTime" to 60

I have been able to answer all calls so far, and my connection still acts as before (when it hangs if I press End it drops).



Let me know how this works for you guys...



Thanks,
Ryan

tkjames 02-08-2010 01:00 AM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
Yeah, I tried and this didn't work well for me. I have the #777 cab, and just set up one of my hard key buttons to "terminate data connection with long key press" using rhodium keyboard settings. My mail is set to check every 4 hours and I put my weather to update manually rather than automatically. After I'm done fiddling on the internet or what is using data, I just use the hard key to end the data session.

Just my 2 cents.

Mike5150 02-11-2010 05:36 PM

Re: #777 undoing the data disconnect hack :/
 
My data connection won't shut off even with the end key. I'm going to try a hard reset this weekend and hopefully that will fix it.


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