Sprint TP2 and Sim Security
 

Ok here is the deal, I have an unactivated Sprint TP2, I am trying to figure out how to sim unlock without paying money to someone who as undoubtedly already received much moola for his unlock which should be free and public domain, however for some the alimighty $ is more important, anyway... Im my experimentation I found and ran the SimSecurity program, it tells me: "Your phone is SIM Unlocked.", So I put in a Cingular SIM Card (No good though), it reads its phone #, and Contacts, however in network settings I could not get it to find any networks. I am working on getting a good SIM to try this with.

So my question is, does this mean I do not need to do any sim unlocking? Or am I missing something here. Also I want to know how olipros sim unlock procedure works, either way I will reverse engineer it if I can get a copy of it.

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her,

and Cingular SIM Card?

you should be on top of it in no time..

amf..

beers

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The Sprint TP2 comes SIM unlocked, but with a catch. It will not pick up any US networks without a patched radio. Also, you can not install a different radio without also having the SPL security unlocked (which is part of the SIM unlocker). If you want to figure it out yourself go for it, but I think it's rather selfish to expect someone to spend that much time hacking things for us so that we can use custom ROMS (among other things) and then not get anything in return. She chose to let the HSPL be free, but charge for the SIM unlock. Hardly unreasonable.

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I wish you luck with the "reverse engineering" my friend...you will definatly need it....just pay the $25 bucks and smile about it....the time its going to take to figure it out has to be worth more than $25 bucks right? Seriously cmonex has hundreds of hours in this project i am sure....So knock yourself out if you must.....

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The Sprint PCS radio is MCC 310/311 blocked. Visit the upgrade forum and obtain the patched radio & unlocker from Cmonex to allow for domestic roaming. Happy sticking it to the man!

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Don't take me wrong, I support and agree with supporting the work done, but by now I would assume thousands have paid to unlock their phones, at $25 a pop, thats a lot of money.

There are others out there doing this too, but no where can I find HOW it's being done. A few select people hold the secret, and are holding onto it like the deed to a gold mine.

If anyone out there is willing to give me a copy of their program they used to unlock their TP2, I would be more then happy to reverse engineer to the best of my ability how these hacks work, at either rate I will continue under my own methods to find a way as well.

I might be a new player on this block, but not to the game.

At any rate, any info that could be useful to unlocking the GSM on this phone (Outside of paying someone to give me a program to do it) would be grateful. I got a box full of these things and I plan on figuring them out.

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First off, if you had taken the time to read over various posts on the subject, you would have undoubtedly uncovered the fact that while the Sprint Touch Pro 2 does indeed come sim unlocked, the radio firmware blocks registration on US GSM networks (ie. AT&T and T-Mobile). Olipro and Cmonex lent their time (on top of working out an unlocker for ROM flashing) to creating a radio security unlocker as well as patched radios for those who have unlocked to flash to.

I have two huge HUGE problems with your post. 1) The reason that OliNex can charge for a security/radio unlocker is because they are two of the only people in the world that know how to do this type of thing. They already created and released a Hard SPL for everyone to use FOR FREE to unlock the phone to use custom ROMs. Not everyone needs to use a SIM card as well, and as such, not everyone will need to purchase the unlocker software to enable this particular functionality. They have every right to charge for their work. And obviously curb the abuse of the product by freeloaders like yourself. 2) You come into a public forum, belittling these developers for asking for compensation for a completely different product by implying that they're only run by greed for money and that they are obligated to provide everyone this software for whatever reason you've conjured up in your head. What's more is that you've actually had the audacity to claim that you're going to attempt to reverse engineer their hard work if someone will provide you the unlocking software to do so.

I really just don't get people like you. Where the heck does you're undeserved sense of entitlement come from?

Edit - And while you say you might be a new player on this block, but not to the game, boy, you've got a lot to learn.

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short version..

madcat maybe my first post was to cryptic?

amf? sei hablo douche?

beers

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I never belittled them, just said I believe it is wrong to rake in a bunch of dough over something they claim to be 'donationware'.

I beg to differ that they are the only 2 in the world, there are atleast 3 other sites out there I have found that say they can sim unlock the TP2, I imagine the original developers of the radio firmware could do it, and I imagine quite a few others out there can and have done it, and also keep it a secret.

I usually work on CDMA stuff, GSM is fairly new to me, but I will figure it out.

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"I am trying to figure out how to sim unlock without paying money to someone who as undoubtedly already received much moola for his unlock which should be free and public domain, however for some the alimighty $ is more important, anyway... "

I don't see how that can be taken any other way.

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Take it however you wish, I really don't care, I just care about figuring it out. How far do you think homebrew roms would of come if not for free and open source information on how to do so, so someone could program the tools to do it?

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Have fun. :)

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I am glad you have a "box of these things" because you will undoubtably need every last one of them....if you do not know what you are doing you will have a box of bricks when you are done, pay the $25 duckets and get over it.....

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I wish you luck, and hope you succeed. If you think you can do it, go for it don't let anyone discourage you.

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Am I the only one who really enjoys this site ?

It's like watching a train wreck.

Or my ex-wife's retarded family.

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It's sad. Why does everyone expect everything for free?
I know, it's the limewire, torrent, old-school-napster generation. The thing is, people work hard to make their product.
If someone you don't know asked you to do something, let's say some yard work or whatever, would you do it for free?
Well, then why do you expect someone else to do work for you for free? (If you said you would do it for free, then come over... leaves need to be raked).

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Funny stuff, just thought you would like to know I am an accomplished programmer, I have code spread all over the place, could very well be code I have written on your PC or on a few websites you have visited. I know what it is like to get paid for my work, but some concepts go beyond that.

Funny how this community of phone hackers comes together to unlock something that corporate greed put there, so they can obtain as much market share as possible, and that very community supports people who charge for the means to unlock them, what irony.

If it was true donationware, that would be great, put a GPL license on it, and take donations, but to charge a minimum and keep is closed source, tsk tsk.

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Well guys the politics aside, to my understanding the reason for Sprint's TP2 have the MCC 310 and 311 (US-based GSM networks) blocked is pretty much a mixture of FCC decision and carrier's decision.

Sprint figured (they might have ppl in this forum too, lurking around) out that instead of putting on a subsidy (SIM lock) on a phone, which in theory does has the ability of not have the end-users utilizing non-carrier approved SIMs such as VZW and Telus is doing. However that's pretty much a gray area if you know what I mean (users can call in themselves to ask for a subsidy unlock).

So Sprint went out and actually modified their radio ROM. I remember someone has posted a technical chart regarding how that selection works. But long story short, the phone checks for subsidy lock first, if it does not exist then it checks the phone/carrier's ID, if it's a Sprint then if the MCC are 310/311 then it refuses to work. I believe it's a HTC/Sprint combined effort to outsmart us "geeks" or, above-average consumers.

As for a work-around, the only way to do with Sprint is flash a patched radio. However to my understanding in order to flash a GSM radio (even when it's part of a combo radio such as in our case,) the phone must be "security & CID unlocked". I was confused about this until I realized that it is NOT the same thing as HardSPL unlocked. I believe there is more in the Upgrades section regarding the differences between HardSPL and CID/Security unlock.

As for why it's not free? Well money aside, making a HardSPL or a security/CID unlocker does take more than making a ROM: Reverse engineering and compiling. Sometimes when there are no way out of it (as the phone simply won't take any subsidy unlock codes at ALL or no way to unlock it by end-users), a little appreciation is well, appreciated if you know what I mean.

Then again, I don't think any of the CDMA providers would want their phone end up being used on competitor networks, nor it would support US-based 3G bands.

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any site can sim unlock, i will pay for your Radio security and Special patched radio to unlock the US GSM networks on your sprint tp2 if u can find it anywhere els... oh thats right you cant. there is a huge difference between a simple sim unlock in this case and a Network unlock. which is what you need.

Cmonex and Olipro, spent a load of time patching the radio for the Sprint TP2 as it was locked out of North American carriers, so yah that site that can sim unlock you for 5 bucks less, will NOT unlock the radio lock for the US GSM networks. It will also not security unlock you and super CID you device so you can flash a patched radio for this.

Normally i don't get involved in ignorant banter in regards to this subject but the fact that your uninformed and basing your whole rant on this is irritating.

So you know what go to ebay buy the cheapest sim unlock you can find and after you do it and pop that sim in to find.... it does not work... come back and say so we can say "I told you so."

As for them asking for a donation for this, i see no problem, they are asking for one like any other sim unlock site except with this you get so much more and you will be able to use your US sim at the end of the day.

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