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pesok 11-17-2009 10:12 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1338756)
google is not going to put anybody out of business except maybe telenav. All of the other companies will do just fine because google is just like telenav, requires a phone signal. All of the other companies don't require you to be around a phone signal so if you're on one of those long trips across country with no service, your gps will continue to work if you are using garmin, tom tom, or any of the map services even if no signal is available.

Again you didnt read my previous posts about how if google decides to make a standalone(PNA) unit with preloaded maps(for offline)(should be quite easy since they have map data already) AND with live options such as the ones on google navigator for android - big GPS manufacturers will take a huge hit and most will not survive unless they cooperate with goog(or MS) and can make a comparable product(which currently none of them are able to do). Face it everyone unless something changes dramatically google will be new microsoft in few years, they already working on google OS for PCs and google version of MS Visual Studio. Dont get me wrong i am a windows guy(and have been for the last 20 years) and i work on .net(C#, before that C++, before C and so on) but google is the only company that can and most likely will knock MS out of computer supremacy throne

p-slim 11-17-2009 10:18 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338827)
Again you didnt read my previous posts about how if google decides to make a standalone(PNA) unit with preloaded maps(for offline)(should be quite easy since they have map data already) AND with live options such as the ones on google navigator for android - big GPS manufacturers will take a huge hit and most will not survive unless they cooperate with goog(or MS) and can make a comparable product(which currently none of them are able to do). Face it everyone unless something changes dramatically google will be new microsoft in few years, they already working on google OS for PCs and google version of MS Visual Studio. Dont get me wrong i am a windows guy(and have been for the last 20 years) and i work on .net(C#, before that C++, before C and so on) but google is the only company that can and most likely will knock MS out of computer supremacy throne

i don't disagree with you, i believe google is definitely in the position to knock down micorsoft. but all i can say is that if you think google is going to knock down all of the gps carriers you are trippin. you're talking like the google navigator has revolutionized gps or something, it hasn't. i've used google navigator and its basically the same as all of the rest. if the live option for you is revolutionary then go ahead and switch, but that feature is useless to me. All gps systems get me their basically the same.

pesok 11-17-2009 10:24 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1338843)
i don't disagree with you, i believe google is definitely in the position to knock down micorsoft. but all i can say is that if you think google is going to knock down all of the gps carriers you are trippin. you're talking like the google navigator has revolutionized gps or something, it hasn't. i've used google navigator and its basically the same as all of the rest. if the live option for you is revolutionary then go ahead and switch, but that feature is useless to me. All gps systems get me their basically the same.

Google navigator has revolutionised GPS industry by adding stuff that was never available before, but i see your point: if one GPS can get you from point A to point B - why switch to the one that can get you there faster, help you avoid traffic and save you time(and gas money) by actually "listening" to you. Thats what my friend said about HDTV's in 2000 - "they will never be popular, standart TVs do the same thing"

dishe 11-17-2009 10:27 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1338843)
i don't disagree with you, i believe google is definitely in the position to knock down micorsoft. but all i can say is that if you think google is going to knock down all of the gps carriers you are trippin. you're talking like the google navigator has revolutionized gps or something, it hasn't. i've used google navigator and its basically the same as all of the rest. if the live option for you is revolutionary then go ahead and switch, but that feature is useless to me. All gps systems get me their basically the same.

Well, it DOES allow you to search by voice without a specific destination address in mind ("Find that museum in NYC with the mummys" will transcribe and search google for the destination). That part is pretty cool, especially when on the go... and to my knowledge no other GPS offers anything like that.

Bing does offer voice recognition if you DO know the specific address, and I gotta say it does a bangup job at that. Just wish it had a better UI- that's something Google has along with the "fuzzy logic" approach to destination searching. It adds just that much more usability to the product.
Will it bring down the other GPS companies? Nah. Probably not much more than the initial stock market hit at the announcement. However, I do think it deserves to be recognized as more than just "basically the same".

The one way street error from engadget was pretty funny tho.

dishe 11-17-2009 10:33 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338867)
Google navigator has revolutionised GPS industry by adding stuff that was never available before, but i see your point: if one GPS can get you from point A to point B - why switch to the one that can get you there faster, help you avoid traffic and save you time(and gas money) by actually "listening" to you.

eeeh... most of the "good" GPS units do the live traffic thing and some even have google searches built in (not with voice recognition, that's new). Will it get you there faster?
I'm not so sure Google's routing algorithm is the best. I've seen directions spewed by Google Maps, Bing, and a Tom Tom and Garmin system for the same destination, and being slightly different. Generally I've found Garmin's routing to be the most efficient, honestly.

Google's UI is nice, and people will definitely use it (since its free, on top of everything else). Revolutionary perhaps, but come on- it DID guide the Engadget writers the wrong way and then insisted they turn around.

p-slim 11-17-2009 10:39 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338867)
Google navigator has revolutionised GPS industry by adding stuff that was never available before, but i see your point: if one GPS can get you from point A to point B - why switch to the one that can get you there faster, help you avoid traffic and save you time(and gas money) by actually "listening" to you. Thats what my friend said about HDTV's in 2000 - "they will never be popular, standart TVs do the same thing"

what century are you in? if a gps system doesn't reroute for traffic, they should not be selling that product. bing has already integrated the "listening" to yo feature, i'm pretty sure its not long before all the navigation systems incorporate voice instructions. Now dishe does make a valid point, his example is a feature i might use.

pesok 11-17-2009 11:04 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1338915)
what century are you in? if a gps system doesn't reroute for traffic, they should not be selling that product. bing has already integrated the "listening" to yo feature, i'm pretty sure its not long before all the navigation systems incorporate voice instructions. Now dishe does make a valid point, his example is a feature i might use.

i thought i lived in a century where people could read, did i ever say trafic was a new feature? And listening is not the same as voice recognition, try telling bing to find a nearest theater thats opened after 1am - thats the new feature along with automatic street view and price tag of 0 for gps navigator with features not available on any other unit. Yes it was wrong but its a beta and i gave up on searching for "perfect" gps years ago - none of them are or ever will be, but you have to recognise the potential. My point is if tomtom, garmin and others took such a big hit on market after google annouced a raw beta of their navigation software thats only available on droid phones(and only 2.0 officially) what kind of hit can we expect when and if goog anounces a standalone unit with preloaded maps and those features or a free downloadable nav soft for all patforms?

Anyways enough of this, i beleive i made my point and if people want to argue at least read all my previous posts on this matter and not just the last one. This thread was opened to help a fellow ppcgeeker find a free navigation soft and maybe further discussions should be closer to the subject.

chrisnosleep 11-17-2009 11:05 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338313)
AmazeGPS is still free... BUt the shiznit will be: Google official navigator(not the hack one that sucks imho) that is coming soon for WM(already out for droid) and will be free as well. It has most complete package of features that are not found on any current GPS. It will come with TTS, turn by turn, Traffic, Search by (natural)Voice with google assist(like say go to nearest movie theater with closest Titanic start time), Sattelite View and Street view(photo quality same as on GM) and others, will pwn all other GPS soft/PNA's free and paid:)!!! Most exciting GPS soft and i have GarminXT, TomTom(PNA and PDA), iGO8, AmazeGPS, Waze and build in MB one(will most likely unistall/turn off all once GN is out for WM and stable enough)!
http://www.google.com/navigation


I was just looking at the AmazeGPS website and it appears that this is not currently made for Windows Mobile. Or am I missing something? I would like to try this software if I can use it on my TP2.

warxhead 11-17-2009 11:22 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
On topic now, whenever i open up bing and go to map, i can't really do anything and it just displays the map, can't exit out without hitting the end button. Any ideas?

lipidfats 11-17-2009 11:53 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisnosleep (Post 1338995)
I was just looking at the AmazeGPS website and it appears that this is not currently made for Windows Mobile. Or am I missing something? I would like to try this software if I can use it on my TP2.

http://www.amazegps.com
you didn't see it because it looks like they're redoing it with version 5. the old 4.5 version can be found on their old site. go to their homepage and youll see a link that says download old version to the bottom left.

amaze sucks, that's why it's free. don't waste your time. just my strong opinion about it

BlackDynamite 11-18-2009 12:49 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338994)
i thought i lived in a century where people could read, did i ever say trafic was a new feature? And listening is not the same as voice recognition, try telling bing to find a nearest theater thats opened after 1am - thats the new feature along with automatic street view and price tag of 0 for gps navigator with features not available on any other unit. Yes it was wrong but its a beta and i gave up on searching for "perfect" gps years ago - none of them are or ever will be, but you have to recognise the potential. My point is if tomtom, garmin and others took such a big hit on market after google annouced a raw beta of their navigation software thats only available on droid phones(and only 2.0 officially) what kind of hit can we expect when and if goog anounces a standalone unit with preloaded maps and those features or a free downloadable nav soft for all patforms?

Anyways enough of this, i beleive i made my point and if people want to argue at least read all my previous posts on this matter and not just the last one. This thread was opened to help a fellow ppcgeeker find a free navigation soft and maybe further discussions should be closer to the subject.

So wait, you're predicting all of these companies go out of business because the stock price went down one day????

as for your searching for theaters open during certain hours- uh, Bing DOES do that. Bing lists all the theaters in your area, and you can search movies by start time if you want. This is nothing new.

You know, just about all of the features you are talking about are available in any standard GPS app. Tom Tom is also online with current and live info- and offline. Heck, even Sprint Navigation is online with current and live info. And it's even free on most Sprint plans these days. How many people have Sprint navigator and still have another GPS app?

My prediction is based on history- google navigation probably won't put anyone out of business. If they give it away, then everyone else will offer features that make people want to pay for theirs instead. And if the stock price drops other investors will look to pick it up while it's cheap.

htctouchpro11 03-19-2010 01:50 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
is amaze a good nav for htc touch pro 2 and is it available?

itony 03-20-2010 12:29 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
thanks op i'll def look in to this.

How often do they update their maps? and would you have to redownload the program or maps or something?

itony 03-31-2010 05:51 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
i've been messing with bing and google maps alot lately but theres one problem with both... if possible does anyone know how to make detours and things such as avoid toll ways?

mknollman 03-31-2010 07:34 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Bing gives real turn by turn at the bottom with an audible "BING" - lol - just before a turn. Keep up the post David, it is nice to see someone so young on here posting and not just lurking. If I may - I have found a way to get routed with one or 2 less steps.

The only problem with the current version of Bing (but supposedly not the newest one) is that it does not grab your location upon opening. You have to do the hoaky change location EVERY TIME. Here is what I do to cut that out:

Open bing
choose direction
set your destination (type it or speak it - awesome)
ignore start point
choose get directions
choose show map
choose menu then track my location
It will prompt you to route from current location, just choose yes

______________________________________________
I know this seems like an annoying list, but it all takes just a moment and lets you skip the first few steps of updating location
________________________________________________


One last thing - I am thinking of writing a mortscript that opens Bing, updates location and chooses OK to get you back to home screen all in one click. I am atthe firehouse tonite and if it is slow I might do it tonite. If anyone is interest I will post it

I agree that Bing is superior to google maps - it has more features and actually navigates.

mobius999 03-31-2010 09:31 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338867)
Google navigator has revolutionised GPS industry by adding stuff that was never available before,

Like what?

Humor me and name something.

I have used just about every major gps software out there for mobiles, and they have been doing what google navigator does for years.

itony 04-05-2010 05:17 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mknollman (Post 1673032)
Bing gives real turn by turn at the bottom with an audible "BING" - lol - just before a turn. Keep up the post David, it is nice to see someone so young on here posting and not just lurking. If I may - I have found a way to get routed with one or 2 less steps.

The only problem with the current version of Bing (but supposedly not the newest one) is that it does not grab your location upon opening. You have to do the hoaky change location EVERY TIME. Here is what I do to cut that out:

Open bing
choose direction
set your destination (type it or speak it - awesome)
ignore start point
choose get directions
choose show map
choose menu then track my location
It will prompt you to route from current location, just choose yes

______________________________________________
I know this seems like an annoying list, but it all takes just a moment and lets you skip the first few steps of updating location
________________________________________________


One last thing - I am thinking of writing a mortscript that opens Bing, updates location and chooses OK to get you back to home screen all in one click. I am atthe firehouse tonite and if it is slow I might do it tonite. If anyone is interest I will post it

I agree that Bing is superior to google maps - it has more features and actually navigates.

I would. and anyone know a gps app (preferably free but whatevs) that can do detours and avoidances?

BooDaddy 04-06-2010 03:29 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AB33 (Post 1337769)
I am curious :scratch:why the SPRINT people don't use SPRINT NAVIGATION which is FREE and KILLS the 2D to text to speech Gmaps, BING, and any other GPS you have to pay for. Its 3D, talking lady, reroutes, etc. It just seemed interesting that SPRINT users were using Bing and GMaps over the free 3D text to speech app.

Also, Bing was doing the WEAK GPS thing back on the Mogul when it was called Live Search.

This is all IMHO.:)

Sprint navigation is not free and is quite pricey. Im on SERO, so I no getty the Sprint navi stuff.

davidetkin511 04-09-2010 11:31 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itony (Post 1644403)
thanks op i'll def look in to this.

How often do they update their maps? and would you have to redownload the program or maps or something?

idk how often they do, but they seem pretty updated. the maps are not downloaded to your phone they are on the internet, so if they are updated you dont have to do anything :D

tt C6 06-12-2010 12:11 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BooDaddy (Post 1684173)
Sprint navigation is not free and is quite pricey. Im on SERO, so I no getty the Sprint navi stuff.

So, as of June 2010, what is the best FREE turn-by-turn navigator available for the Sprint Touch Pro2 ?????

I thought the TP2 has a built in GPS device. Do we even NEED a data plan to be able to run a free turn-by-turn navigator?


I just realized that Sprint LIED to me and has been charging me $10 every month for Sprint Navigator on TOP of my unlimited plan.




Thanks.

joeadamo 06-12-2010 12:19 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Give Bing a try, works great on a TP2, plus turn by turn voice!

BooDaddy 06-12-2010 12:24 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Google maps, Bing, Waze,...and so on are all free.
A copy of Garmin Mobile XT is around 100 bucks, but its really really good.

divineazn716 06-14-2010 05:29 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joeadamo (Post 1810166)
Give Bing a try, works great on a TP2, plus turn by turn voice!


Hey when you use the bing navigation, do you know how to make it so it's facing north the whole direction? do you know what I mean? where like the vehicle is always facing up? sometimes I get confused when the map is turning to the right or a different direction? like i have the TP2 for sprint but I do like bing better since it avoids tolls. but the sprint navigation is always pointing north? do you know a fix for that?

joeadamo 06-14-2010 05:35 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Not sure, I left my phone at home this morning, but I'll check later tonight to see if there is a fix.

solarflarex 06-14-2010 06:13 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
sprint nav FTW seriously...

joeadamo 06-15-2010 05:11 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
I did check out Bing last night and I didn't see any way to rotate the map to reflect driving direction rather than North. Honestly though, with the turn by turn and voice nav I really didn't need to look at the map that often - I did because I like to - but I got plenty of warnings about turns, exits, etc. that the map orientation really wasn't that big a deal - at least for me.

divineazn716 06-15-2010 05:53 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
oh alright, yea that's true... I dont know if you have sprint or not but I hate it, it doesnt give me an option to avoid tolls so it gives me the fastest route that costs me money. I live down in FL so there's tolls all around my area. but thanks for letting me know if you had any knowledge of fixes.

kierandill 06-15-2010 08:01 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
RE: Bing versus Google Maps on voice commands.
I went to show off Bing at Memorial Day to family. Told it "Chipotle". The next 5 minutes were spent with various people trying to get Bing to recognize the name of the popular Mexican Restaurant. Popular attempts on its part included "Triple A" and "Top Pot Leaf".
Google Maps got it on the first try...


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