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davidetkin511 11-14-2009 11:49 PM

How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
There is a way to have a free navigator on your TP2 and it is very simple. This is not a talking, high quality GPS but it will give you turn by turn directions and show your current location.

STEPS:
1. Download and install Bing.
2. Open Bing and click "Change Location" (under the search box).
3. Select current GPS, Wait and press "OK"
4. Click "Directions"
5. Your starting location should already be your current GPS location but if it is not click "new starting location"
6. Type in your destination
7. Press route then press map
8. click menu>track me using GPS
9. enjoy using your navigation system :)


PLEASE PRESS THANKS IF I HELPED YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST PM ME OR ASK THEM IN THE FORUM AND I WILL ANSWER.

THANKS :)

strra 11-14-2009 11:58 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=14
try this too. i have yet to have anyone confirm it works, so i'm curious

Zoheb318 11-15-2009 02:36 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Why not use Google Maps? I use it very often for GPS and traffic.

newone757 11-15-2009 02:46 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
i cant use nav thats not text to speech. thanks tho

ejay 11-15-2009 03:08 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoheb318 (Post 1330357)
Why not use Google Maps? I use it very often for GPS and traffic.

yup. i use Google Maps that came with MightyROM. pretty sweet :D

lallen3 11-15-2009 03:18 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoheb318 (Post 1330357)
Why not use Google Maps? I use it very often for GPS and traffic.

Google maps FTW! :)

neodarksaver 11-15-2009 05:16 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
i dont think bing has text to speech?

BlackDynamite 11-15-2009 05:24 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Bing is way better than Google Maps.

newone757 11-15-2009 05:53 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neodarksaver (Post 1330514)
i dont think bing has text to speech?

it doesnt

abdeviation 11-15-2009 07:34 AM

Wirelessly posted (Sprint Touch Pro 2: Opera/9.5(Microsoft Windows; PPC; Opera Mobi/16643; U; en) HTC_Touch_Pro2)

Google maps doesn't follow your location and update the directions based on it. Bing does this so it continuously tells you how far u are from the next turn and more importantly if you make a wrong turn, it automatically gives u a new route. This is definitely the biggest shortcoming of google maps

newone757 11-15-2009 07:40 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
didnt know that. i always preffered bing though for its movie and gas prices search features

deadwrong03 11-15-2009 11:18 AM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
from my experience Bing is alot slower than Google Maps as far as determining your location, i prefer Google Maps, it finds satellites much faster i only use Bing for the novelty of finding gas prices and movie theaters and such

wraith79 11-15-2009 12:01 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
If you want something that is Text to Speech, you have to pay, IGO8, Navigon and others like those that has TTS support! As for amaze gps, its good, but, uses your data plan! IGO8 and others I marked above are standalone, meaning, if you put your phone into airplane mode, the GPS will still work! If you want to check it out go here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88692
I've been using IGO8 since I had my HTC Vogue!

c0011j 11-15-2009 01:54 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
I used to use Gmaps, but after I used Bing i changed my mind.
Simply speaking, Bing is Turn-By-Turn while Google Maps isn't. I will use google maps if I am not trying to get directions but when I am needing specific directions Bing is the way to go.

bullet2300 11-16-2009 12:02 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Bing is definitely better for directions than Google Maps. They need to step it up!

dishe 11-16-2009 12:30 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
This is an age-old discussion... Google Maps offers driving directions, but it is NOT a navigator... that is, it does not offer turn-by-turn updates, spoken or not.
The reason is rumored to mostly be licensing... Google paid for the right to use map data supplied by third parties, but part of the licensing deal was that they are not allowed to offer a navigation service with it.

The result is that they will show you were to go, and show you a blinking dot that happens to tell you were you are, but the directions do no update as you drive. You have to figure out how far you are from the next turn, etc. on your own. Its basically tantamount to printing the directions out from your PC beforehand and following it while driving. Not the same as having an in-dash GPS as any GPS user will tell you.

In fact, the only advantage to having a GPS function in Google Maps is that you don't have to tell it your starting location.

If you want a Navigator, then yes, you will need one of the apps wraith79 mentioned, that usually includes spoken directions and works exactly like a standalone GPS navigator.

Bing, on the other hand, is a perfectly acceptable alternative that uses your data connection (just like Google Maps). They have licensed maps that allow them to use it for navigation, so navigate it does! I actually find it more accurate and up to date than iGo and some of the other paid apps, since the data is LIVE in the cloud. Microsoft kept the UI pretty simple, but if you pay attention to it, it updates in real time and tells you how much farther until the next turn and when to turn (no voices at all, just beeps and tones).

Now, the real clincher is going to be Google's Navigator... Google's street view project, etc, has enabled them to no longer need to license maps from third parties... they now have enough mapping data of their own to do whatever they want with it. If you've seen the Navigator on the Droid, you know what I'm talking about- spoken TTS as well as speech recognition using the Goog-411 routines (Bing actually has a similar feature to recognize spoken destinations, but still no TTS).
Right now, its only in Android 2.0, but there are rumors it will roll out to other smartphones capable of Gmaps with a GPS as well.
http://www.mopocket.com/2009/10/google-navigation.php

Edwood 11-16-2009 01:32 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg (Post 1330515)
Bing is way better than Google Maps.

I agree. Bing is much better as a Navigation program. Not nearly as good as a real Navigation app, though. Bing follows the cursor closer and better than Google, and shows large turn by turn directions, along with blip noises to alert you to upcoming turns.

zylograth 11-16-2009 02:11 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
CoPilot Live 8 is only 34.99, I find it worsk quite well for the price.

newone757 11-16-2009 05:31 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Co Pilot 8 looks NICE. might buy it, but Ive heard their maps are terribly inaccurate, out of date, and never get updated (eventhought the feature is built in), hmmm, i dunno

chronster 11-17-2009 03:43 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
lol he just taught people how to use bing.

I wonder if I could get some thanks out of showing people how to look up restaurants :lol:

davidetkin511 11-17-2009 03:57 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chronster (Post 1337671)
lol he just taught people how to use bing.

I wonder if I could get some thanks out of showing people how to look up restaurants :lol:

it is a trick in bing that a lot of people dont know you dont have to be rude:angry7::angry7::angry7:

AB33 11-17-2009 04:14 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wraith79 (Post 1330785)
If you want something that is Text to Speech, you have to pay, IGO8, Navigon and others like those that has TTS support! As for amaze gps, its good, but, uses your data plan! IGO8 and others I marked above are standalone, meaning, if you put your phone into airplane mode, the GPS will still work! If you want to check it out go here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88692
I've been using IGO8 since I had my HTC Vogue!

I am curious :scratch:why the SPRINT people don't use SPRINT NAVIGATION which is FREE and KILLS the 2D to text to speech Gmaps, BING, and any other GPS you have to pay for. Its 3D, talking lady, reroutes, etc. It just seemed interesting that SPRINT users were using Bing and GMaps over the free 3D text to speech app.

Also, Bing was doing the WEAK GPS thing back on the Mogul when it was called Live Search.

This is all IMHO.:)

Zoheb318 11-17-2009 04:18 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Well for me the Sprint Navigator is not included in my plan. I pay $2.50 for unlimited internet (not a sero plan) and navigation is another $5/$10 per month.

I used to use Live Search for traffic but Google is 10x better because it shows more side streets. I don't really need a "navigation" unit, just something to tell me where there's less traffic ;)

newone757 11-17-2009 04:29 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AB33 (Post 1337769)
I am curious :scratch:why the SPRINT people don't use SPRINT NAVIGATION which is FREE and KILLS the 2D to text to speech Gmaps, BING, and any other GPS you have to pay for. Its 3D, talking lady, reroutes, etc. It just seemed interesting that SPRINT users were using Bing and GMaps over the free 3D text to speech app.

Also, Bing was doing the WEAK GPS thing back on the Mogul when it was called Live Search.

This is all IMHO.:)

maybe because its ummmmmm not free? not for everyone atleast. people with special/custom/subsidized plans like myself dont have it included

AB33 11-17-2009 04:33 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoheb318 (Post 1337773)
Well for me the Sprint Navigator is not included in my plan. I pay $2.50 for unlimited internet (not a sero plan) and navigation is another $5/$10 per month.

I used to use Live Search for traffic but Google is 10x better because it shows more side streets. I don't really need a "navigation" unit, just something to tell me where there's less traffic ;)

Got you...Thanks for the input...you learn something new everyday.:)

AB33 11-17-2009 04:35 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newone757 (Post 1337798)
maybe because its ummmmmm not free? not for everyone atleast. people with special/custom/subsidized plans like myself dont have it included

I see...I see...:o Thanks for the input.

chronster 11-17-2009 04:39 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidetkin511 (Post 1337723)
it is a trick in bing that a lot of people dont know you dont have to be rude:angry7::angry7::angry7:

Sensitive a bit? That wasn't rudeness. Get over it.

BlackDynamite 11-17-2009 04:48 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AB33 (Post 1337769)
I am curious :scratch:why the SPRINT people don't use SPRINT NAVIGATION which is FREE and KILLS the 2D to text to speech Gmaps, BING, and any other GPS you have to pay for. Its 3D, talking lady, reroutes, etc. It just seemed interesting that SPRINT users were using Bing and GMaps over the free 3D text to speech app.

Also, Bing was doing the WEAK GPS thing back on the Mogul when it was called Live Search.

This is all IMHO.:)

I'm using Sprint Navigation because I have Sprint. But make no mistake about it, on a GSM phone Bing is FAR better than Sprint Navigation for everything other than turn by turn navigation. Movie times and prices, restaurants, gas prices, etc- Bing is the best there is for it on a GSM phone.

Why a GSM phone and not CDMA? Because on a GSM phone it has your location instantly. You tap the icon, and by the time the app opens up it already has your location. There is no waiting for a GPS lock, or telling it to use GPS or any opf that nonsense (although you can certainly do that too if you want, but not sure why anyone would). It just knows where you are and you can search for your stuff right then.

Combine Bing with Tom Tom and you have a winner (on GSM). Hopefully they fix the CDMA issues...

AZTECHKA 11-17-2009 05:18 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
I have a family data plan... For 2 phones I pay 100 bucks.
Unlimited EVERYTHING except for land line minutes... we share 1500. And family locator which I don't use.
I can find anything and get anywhere with telenav. I have never had any issues with it. I have tried bing and google maps... They are both still on my phone. I never use them. Telenav is my 411 and my navigator.
p.

pesok 11-17-2009 07:34 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
AmazeGPS is still free... BUt the shiznit will be: Google official navigator(not the hack one that sucks imho) that is coming soon for WM(already out for droid) and will be free as well. It has most complete package of features that are not found on any current GPS. It will come with TTS, turn by turn, Traffic, Search by (natural)Voice with google assist(like say go to nearest movie theater with closest Titanic start time), Sattelite View and Street view(photo quality same as on GM) and others, will pwn all other GPS soft/PNA's free and paid:)!!! Most exciting GPS soft and i have GarminXT, TomTom(PNA and PDA), iGO8, AmazeGPS, Waze and build in MB one(will most likely unistall/turn off all once GN is out for WM and stable enough)!
http://www.google.com/navigation

BlackDynamite 11-17-2009 07:56 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338313)
AmazeGPS is still free... BUt the shiznit will be: Google official navigator(not the hack one that sucks imho) that is coming soon for WM(already out for droid) and will be free as well. It has most of features that are not found on any GPS with TTS, turn by turn, Traffic, Search by (natural)Voice with google assist(like say go to nearest movie theater with closest Titanic start time), Sattelite View and Street view(photo quality same as on GM), it will pwn all other GPS soft/PNA's free and paid:)!!! Most exciting GPS soft and i have GarminXT, TomTom(PNA and PDA), iGO8, AmazeGPS, Waze and build in MB one(will most likely unistall/turn off all once GN is out for WM and stable enough)!
http://www.google.com/navigation

It will probably own the free (until MS releases an updated Bing) but I don't know about the paid. There are some pretty good ones out there if you're willing to pay...

pesok 11-17-2009 08:06 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg (Post 1338384)
It will probably own the free (until MS releases an updated Bing) but I don't know about the paid. There are some pretty good ones out there if you're willing to pay...

Like i said i have payed ones: GarminXT, TomTom with latest 8.35 maps and iGo with latest 2009q1 maps, also have PNA(standalone) TomTom GO910, Mio and build in MB one. Now which one of these offer sattelite view? How about Street view? How about Google assisted search? I think answer is clear, do you know any other payed one that will offer these? Google if so chooses can singlehandedly(sp?) destroy all big boys of GPS out there by releasing a PNA(dedicated standalone) with preloaded maps(for offline) and all those features i mentioned in previous post-thus making a perfect GPS unit. They have the technology already(most(all?) of US and most of the rest of the world already have been street-viewed by goog) as well as best search engine algorithm. The only other company that might be able to stand in their way is MS(and we all know how fast they move).
Here is the quote from mashable.com to show how serious this is:
Quote:

GPS turn-by-turn navigation has historically always been something you had to pay for. Creating and maintaining a map of the entire world, together with points of interests and traffic info, plus developing the algorithms that make sure you don’t take a wrong turn, costs millions of dollars. But Google is now offering it for free. The result was devastating for shares of GPS navigation companies: Garmin’s shares fell by 16.4%; TomTom’s by 20.8%. We’re talking billions of dollars of market capitalization, gone in one day, just because Google presented another free product (they release new products on a monthly, if not weekly basis).
Here is the review of the actual droid phone with GN on it(ignore the annoying woman on the back:)): http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/768/0

flyers2114 11-17-2009 08:23 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chronster (Post 1337671)
lol he just taught people how to use bing.

I wonder if I could get some thanks out of showing people how to look up restaurants :lol:


lol...been doing this since my Mogul days...it has always been there...

BlackDynamite 11-17-2009 08:45 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338423)
Like i said i have payed ones: GarminXT, TomTom with latest 8.35 maps and iGo with latest 2009q1 maps, also have PNA(standalone) TomTom GO910, Mio and build in MB one. Now which one of these offer sattelite view? How about Street view? How about Google assisted search? I think answer is clear, do you know any other payed one that will offer these? Google if so chooses can singlehandedly(sp?) destroy all big boys of GPS out there by releasing a PNA(dedicated standalone) with preloaded maps(for offline) and all those features i mentioned in previous post-thus making a perfect GPS unit. They have the technology already(most(all?) of US and most of the rest of the world already have been street-viewed by goog) as well as best search engine algorithm. The only other company that might be able to stand in their way is MS(and we all know how fast they move).
Here is the quote from mashable.com to show how serious this is:

Microsoft has all of that same stuff. Not only that, but Bing is already better than Google Maps. So I won't be surprised at all if MS issues an update for Bing that blows google nav out of the water.

As for your questions about sat views and stuff- the first GPS app I ever used (I bought it while lost on a trip a few years back) was Delorme, and it had it too.

I'm pretty sure they can all have it without much trouble. Not only does Google let everyone access it for free, but so does MS.

When Google starts getting celebrity voices and other cool features like that, then maybe we can talk about it blowing everyone else out of the water. For now though, it's just a standard navigation app that is pretty buggy. I saw one Droid video review where they were using the Google naviation and it was directing the guy to turn left on a street that you can't turn left on. It then had him driving around in circles trying to get him back to that point to turn left on that same street. See the Navigation video here:
http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/772/1.96
just in case that direct link doesn't work, it's in the navigation section of this review:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/m...-droid-review/

So watch that and then you might want to hold off before you go handing Google the crown...

pesok 11-17-2009 09:13 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg (Post 1338551)
I'm pretty sure they can all have it without much trouble. Not only does Google let everyone access it for free, but so does MS.

For personal non commercial use only, so TomTom or Garmin cannot use that data in their units without purchasing the rights(not sure if Goog even would sell those). By the way i didnt realise Bing had street view, big props if they do(not to be confused with satt view), i am in bing maps now and cannot find how to get it to show street view - what am i missing? By the way i am not handing Goog a crown(although stock market seems to - but then again what do they know right?), i said the only other company is MS and in my opinion Goog is a bit lighter on their feet when it comes to new stuff

BlackDynamite 11-17-2009 09:23 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338631)
For personal non commercial use only, so TomTom or Garmin cannot use that data in their units without purchasing the rights(not sure if Goog even would sell those). By the way i didnt realise Bing had street view, big props if they do(not to be confused with satt view), i am in bing maps now and cannot find how to get it to show street view - what am i missing? By the way i am not handing Goog a crown(although stock market seems to - but then again what do they know right?), i said the only other company is MS and in my opinion Goog is a bit lighter on their feet when it comes to new stuff

I don't think the mobile version of Bing has street view, but the desktop version does (called Bing Virtual Earth or something like that). So like I said, they could easily trump google nav, just as their bing mobile app already trumps google maps.

And by the way- google does not own all of that data either. They license a good portion of it themselves. I livein Utah and a few years back they changed a bunch of freeway exit numbers and they were talking on the news how Goole had no control over the wrong directions they were giving out because they licensed their data (for that area at least) from some other company.

Not saying google nav is going to suck, just putting some reality to your claim that it will put everyone else out of business.

newone757 11-17-2009 09:32 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
bing trumps google maps in what way?? if we're talkin features, yeah. but popularity?? google maps wins any day, most people dont even know what bing is. Its a better product right now, sure. But i just wanna be clear at what we are talking about because stocks and whatnot were mentioned. market share or the actual products?? Cuz market share wise bing will never come close to google maps, its too well known world wide, the google name is too well known compared to "Bing"



google maps in this situation is like an ipod
with Bing being a regular mp3 player. the other mp3 playermight have better features but the ipod is too well known to be threatened. just an analogy


Im pretty sure mapquest is more popular than bing when it comes to directions. It would be interesting to see them make mobile apps

pesok 11-17-2009 09:44 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg (Post 1338663)
I don't think the mobile version of Bing has street view, but the desktop version does (called Bing Virtual Earth or something like that). So like I said, they could easily trump google nav, just as their bing mobile app already trumps google maps.

And by the way- google does not own all of that data either. They license a good portion of it themselves. I livein Utah and a few years back they changed a bunch of freeway exit numbers and they were talking on the news how Goole had no control over the wrong directions they were giving out because they licensed their data (for that area at least) from some other company.

Not saying google nav is going to suck, just putting some reality to your claim that it will put everyone else out of business.

i am not going to get into which maps are better thats dependent on area you live or interested in(i prefer google maps over bing for example(ease of use, street views are integrated into maps as opposed to being separate app in bing for example) - you on other hand prefer the opposite apparently) as for licensing you talking about map data not about street view data - that was done by goog themselves(goog mobiles) so they own all rights. And for the 3rd time: goog has the opportunity to put GPS manufacturers like TomTom, Garmin, Mio and about 2 mil others out of business and the only one that can compete(currently)is MS(although the dont seem to have any plans for MS navigator so far and in our times pioneers usually grab the biggest piece of pie, just look at google.com - still #1 search engine(not my claims according to stats)-is it the best? - well it sure was in the beggining and now people just got used to it). I am making my claim based on falling stocks of biggest GPS manufacturers once goog announced the GPS navigator - and thats a reality

p-slim 11-17-2009 09:54 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pesok (Post 1338717)
i am not going to get into which maps are better thats dependent on area you live or interested in(i prefer google maps over bing for example(ease of use, street views are integrated into maps as opposed to being separate app in bing for example) - you on other hand prefer the opposite apparently) as for licensing you talking about map data not about street view data - that was done by goog themselves(goog mobiles) so they own all rights. And for the 3rd time: goog has the opportunity to put GPS manufacturers like TomTom, Garmin, Mio and about 2 mil others out of business and the only one that can compete(currently)is MS(although the dont seem to have any plans for MS navigator so far and in our times pioneers usually grab the biggest piece of pie, just look at google.com - still #1 search engine(not my claims according to stats)-is it the best? - well it sure was in the beggining and now people just got used to it). I am making my claim based on falling stocks of biggest GPS manufacturers once goog announced the GPS navigator - and thats a reality

google is not going to put anybody out of business except maybe telenav. All of the other companies will do just fine because google is just like telenav, requires a phone signal. All of the other companies don't require you to be around a phone signal so if you're on one of those long trips across country with no service, your gps will continue to work if you are using garmin, tom tom, or any of the map services even if no signal is available.

newone757 11-17-2009 10:04 PM

Re: How to get a FREE Navigator for your Touch Pro2.
 
valid point


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