Disappointed so far (coming from Sprint Diamond)

[mswlogo]

First impressions is everything.

When I got the Sprint Diamond it just seemed so classy (and that was coming from returning an iPhone).

I love the magnetic stylus on the Diamond and how it turns it on.

I feel like I stepped back to an over sized mogul.

After the first boot I could not turn it off or on from power button.

Pulled battery and that seems ok now.

I have the screen protector on with PERFECT alignment but it keeps forming a bubble near the +/- button.

The finish just feels a tad cheaper.

It sure feels huge. Friend brought in his new iPhone today that feels so classy as did diamond one.

Scrolling around flicking through pages randomly clicks item. I had all the HTC software off on my diamond and expected I'd have to shut it all off on this as well. But they never seem to get it right.

I may try a Diamond 2 when they come out. I jumped on this because it was one of the few new phones on SERO.

But I really wanted to be as wowed as I was with the Diamond and I'm not so far.

I'll play with it for a bit. Maybe if iGuadance works correctly on this screen I'll change my mind.

I'm a little concerned Diamond will hold up for another year.

[themuffinman]

Well good for you, now return your tp2 and reactivate your diamond and you should be very happy.

[freeza]

LOL this phone is in every way shape and form better than the Diamond. I sold my Diamond just on speculation of the Sept 3 release date alone and haven't looked back since.

[Dr.8820]

but if the op doesn't like it, no amount of flaming is going to change their mind. maybe instead of defending the phone, why not offer suggestions on how maybe the op can enjoy his?

[freeza]

Originally Posted by mr.8820

but if the op doesn't like it, no amount of flaming is going to change their mind. maybe instead of defending the phone, why not offer suggestions on how maybe the op can enjoy his?

All of the things the OP listed are subjective and offer no "fixes."

I have never had anything accidentally click when flick scrolling or scrolling at all.

[Ranchosteve]

i came from the diamond also, but i love the phone. Just need 6.5.

[boredandtattooed]

theres plenty of apps that will turn your phone on when u pull out the stylus... dont know why they wouldnt work on TP2...

and TP2s are IMO the best built HTC device so far... sturdy, no creaking, no battery door issues(well maybe on telsus i hear), keyboard feels great, battery life is great(dunno how that compares to diamond)..

if you have bubbles under your protector, hows that the devices fault? it didnt install it itself...

just ease up on the screen press when scrolling, it doesnt take much... you can also turn up the screen sensitivity in diamond tweaks... and touchflos specifically in advanced config

how can something "feel classy" anyways?? classy is a social state or a term associated with looks.... if you mean u felt classy holding one of eithe rof those devices, then im sorry to hear that u need a phone top make u feel worthwhile...

so what, u posted this thread just so we'd know u dont like it?? gee, thanks..... did u need or have a tip,trick,something???? otherwise this shouldve be in one of the many discussion threads...

[jessiethe3rd]

Ahh... the good ol' days of the Touch and Diamond... totally different phones for different purposes when looking at them versus the TP2 or TP. I feel your pain and I also see the over sights when stacking up a iPhone with a TP2/TP. From a feel perspective I agree - this phone is not the most solid phone as compared to a slab (iPhone/Touch/Diamond.) It has a few working parts like the keyboard, and a few other items which give the phone/PDA a more robust feel. The extra heft can easy lead one to question the need for the waste and to be honest, I agree with you to an extent in this area.

What is missing, however, is the keyboard on a slab, the speaker (and speakerphone capabilities), and the screen resolution (at least as far as the TP2 goes.) When I look at the TP2 and HTC's Touch and Diamond I see two totally different markets served by devices which have virtually the same OS / experience. Who who uses an iPhone or slab device is probably less interested in personal business productivity and probably more concerned about the multimedia/look/feel/flash of the overall end product. I believe Apple has done an OKAY job taking care of that middle ground and the reason why the Touch/Diamond were so very popular is because it did a better job of covering that middle ground with a slightly tilted preference towards personal productivity versus games and multimedia.

With this said, from a pure business perspective, the iPhone and the Touch/Diamond are no match for a TP/TP2. It is almost as if the TP/TP2's market segment should be REALLY geared towards that mobile warrior who is interested in messaging while the slabs should be more closely aligned with that basic smartphone needs of your typical iPhone user. As a corporate worker / roadwarrior with an organization with a big investment in Microsoft technologies iPhone is weak against my TP2... yes it looks good on the surface but the integration is no where near the capability of my TP2. I am not a big gamer, I care very little about fart apps, and I only need basic music capabilities (although I'll admit with the TP2 my appetite for Zune subscription music synched with the TP2 has been HUGE - my 16GB card is 1/2 full of music!)

I think what we'll see in the very near term is more devices like the Whitestone (on Verizon) and the Toshiba which will be slab in nature and running 6.5. Many users like you are being neglected a bit with this one OS method. I also think the fit, finish, and "wants" are different from someone like me who is a corporate user. Unfortunately there aren't a bunch of options right now but I believe this will change in time (maybe with Windows Phone 7 for Microsoft?) or even higher quality Andriod Phones by Google (they seem to be more interested in targeting and going after the social-elite net community then business users.)

Regardless, HTC does need to get better at putting out super high quality products and this again may change. If you look at some of the Chassis requirements for Windows Phone 7 you'll note that there are some high quality aspirations on Microsoft's part. Look at a Zune HD and it's sleekness and that finish product is a good example of what can be accomplished in a controlled environment under the MSFT platform.

Regardless - I understand and disagree at the end of the day. While HTC wants everyone and their grandma to buy their products this phone/PDA is geared towards someone who is a business class user who uses their phone exclusively as a tool of productivity versus a tool for flash (and I am saying that in the most respectful way... not trying to pin you down as a flash guy but more someone who is looking for a consumer phone with LOTS of beautiful fit and finish.) I think if HTC doesn't do it right for you take a look at what Samsung is doing with the Omnia which is really a very sweet phone that focuses on the multimedia capabilities.

[correct]

let me get a hit of whatever you're smoking.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by mswlogo

First impressions is everything.

When I got the Sprint Diamond it just seemed so classy (and that was coming from returning an iPhone).

I love the magnetic stylus on the Diamond and how it turns it on.

I feel like I stepped back to an over sized mogul.

After the first boot I could not turn it off or on from power button.

Pulled battery and that seems ok now.

I have the screen protector on with PERFECT alignment but it keeps forming a bubble near the +/- button.

The finish just feels a tad cheaper.

It sure feels huge. Friend brought in his new iPhone today that feels so classy as did diamond one.

Scrolling around flicking through pages randomly clicks item. I had all the HTC software off on my diamond and expected I'd have to shut it all off on this as well. But they never seem to get it right.

I may try a Diamond 2 when they come out. I jumped on this because it was one of the few new phones on SERO.

But I really wanted to be as wowed as I was with the Diamond and I'm not so far.

I'll play with it for a bit. Maybe if iGuadance works correctly on this screen I'll change my mind.

I'm a little concerned Diamond will hold up for another year.

Originally Posted by freeza

All of the things the OP listed are subjective and offer no "fixes."

I have never had anything accidentally click when flick scrolling or scrolling at all.

i agree with freeza, everything the op states can not be fixed, he says the phone is made cheaper, there is no way to better that for the op. the only thing that could possibly be fixed is the scrolling thing but that has never happened to me at all. The op is not looking for fixes just saying the phone feels cheaper then his diamond.