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jmorton10 10-07-2009 09:48 AM

TP2/imagio questions
 
I absolutely LOVE my VZ TP2 & have customized it as much as possible without a custom ROM. That being said, I have a week left on my 30 days & I'm actually considering swapping it for an imagio.

I am not the typical TP2 user as I never ever use the hardware KB (I never used it with my old TP's either). I buy these phones for all the other features & would just as soon not even have the hardware KB. I do a considerable amount of texting, but I use Vito SMS-Chat with my own custom version of TouchPal 3.5 & find I can type insanely fast using that setup & T+ technology(Vito's much improved version of T-9).

My question really are, seeing as I don't need/want the hardware KB, is there any reason I should NOT go with the imagio instead of the TP2???

When I had my TP's, going with a Diamond was not really an option because the Diamond had far less features than the TP & I used ALL of those features (I use video out everyday for example).

In the case of the TP2/imagio however, it seems the imagio has all the features of the TP2 + I would gain back WM6.5. Am I missing anything here or does this make sense??

Please don't respond "I could never live without my KB", that's fine & dandy but doesn't apply to me & I don't care about your phone.

~John

subzero1313 10-07-2009 09:52 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
screen size(important to me) is all I can think of. I actually like the feel of the TP2, it feels like Im holding a real phone.

kxs783kms 10-07-2009 09:58 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1219586)
Please don't respond "I could never live without my KB", that's fine & dandy but doesn't apply to me & I don't care about your phone.

~John

Okay, and exactly why should we care about yours?

Noir 10-07-2009 09:58 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
I say go with imagio if you don't use hw keyboard at all...

jmorton10 10-07-2009 10:01 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1219594)
screen size(important to me) is all I can think of. I actually like the feel of the TP2, it feels like Im holding a real phone.

the screen size is the same as the TP2, isn't it??

I don't mind the feel of it either size wise, but I also like to have fewer moving parts that can cause problems at some point down the road.

~John

silverkorn 10-07-2009 10:02 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1219594)
screen size(important to me) is all I can think of. I actually like the feel of the TP2, it feels like Im holding a real phone.

they both are listed with the same size screens:
Quote:

3.6" Touch–sensitive Display: 480x800 pixel; 65K color support TFT–LCD
if you dont intend on using the keyboard then its pretty obvious to go with the Imagio. The only other benefit i could see is the tilting screen for when you are watching different content. I know the Imagio has a "kickstand" but who knows how stable that is

jmorton10 10-07-2009 10:03 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kxs783kms (Post 1219606)
Okay, and exactly why should we care about yours?


you just couldn't resist a useless post anyway, right??

I swear, some people have no life at all...........

~John

jmorton10 10-07-2009 10:05 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by silverkorn (Post 1219614)
The only other benefit i could see is the tilting screen

yea, that is kind of a cool feature, but I find I am always trying to tilt it a "little farther". It just doesn't seem to come forward quite enough to be at the angle I would like to watch it at.

~John

bsweetness 10-07-2009 10:07 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Yeah, if you don't want the physical keyboard, then I'd say go with the Imagio. Besides the keyboard, everything else is pretty much the same, plus some extra stuff like the 5 megapixel camera and MediaFlow (not to mention WM 6.5 already on board). I've seen videos of the Imagio and the kickstand, and it seems to work quite well.

I love my Touch Pro 2, and I wouldn't give it up for the Imagio (even though I would like the slimmer form factor), but for you, I'd say the Imagio would definitely be the better choice.

subzero1313 10-07-2009 10:10 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
ah, thought I read the screen was smaller. Never mind me then

rdcrds 10-07-2009 10:12 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1219586)
I absolutely LOVE my VZ TP2 & have customized it as much as possible without a custom ROM. That being said, I have a week left on my 30 days & I'm actually considering swapping it for an imagio.

I am not the typical TP2 user as I never ever use the hardware KB (I never used it with my old TP's either). I buy these phones for all the other features & would just as soon not even have the hardware KB. I do a considerable amount of texting, but I use Vito SMS-Chat with my own custom version of TouchPal 3.5 & find I can type insanely fast using that setup & T+ technology(Vito's much improved version of T-9).

My question really are, seeing as I don't need/want the hardware KB, is there any reason I should NOT go with the imagio instead of the TP2???

When I had my TP's, going with a Diamond was not really an option because the Diamond had far less features than the TP & I used ALL of those features (I use video out everyday for example).

In the case of the TP2/imagio however, it seems the imagio has all the features of the TP2 + I would gain back WM6.5. Am I missing anything here or does this make sense??

Please don't respond "I could never live without my KB", that's fine & dandy but doesn't apply to me & I don't care about your phone.

~John

You want to change cause of 6.5 that is there catch to get people to get these phones.If it did not have 6.5 would you get it? if the answer is no then leave it alone 6.5 will be here sonner or later.

Noir 10-07-2009 10:15 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdcrds (Post 1219640)
You want to change cause of 6.5 that is there catch to get people to get these phones.If it did not have 6.5 would you get it? if the answer is no then leave it alone 6.5 will be here sonner or later.

good point
but I am intrigued about the new drivers 6.5 offers though
not video but other drivers
and since we could use a dump of the rom ... XD

ftropea 10-07-2009 10:27 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
I agree that 6.5 should not be a reason to prefer the Imagio over the Pro2. It's only a matter of time for when that "feature" will be available on both phones.

I just ordered the Imagio yesterday. I've been sitting on the fence for the Pro2 (verizon), and with the recent stock issue, I was forced to wait long enough for the Imagio's release.

For me, the slimmer form factor and better camera are more important to me than the keyboard. I currently have a Titan and have enjoyed the option of the slide out keyboard. However, I am not dependent on it and would actually prefer a sleaker, somewhat lighter, version of the Pro2 which I believe the Imagio is.

My only concern about getting the Imagio is the user support from sites such as this and XDA. I hope it doesn't become a fringe or niche device. A lot of tech heads have already jumped on the Pro2 wagon, so in terms of customizable roms, hacks and tricks - I hope a community eventually forms around the device to support all that.

Personally, having been able to apply my new every 2, and get the online rebate, $149 for such a phone is a pretty good deal. It should arrive today (with free overnight) and if there is a forum to post to (is there an Imagio forum here yet??) I'll try to post up a review.

Young_breedent 10-07-2009 10:49 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kxs783kms (Post 1219606)
Okay, and exactly why should we care about yours?

same thing i was wondering lol

ftropea 10-07-2009 10:56 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
The higher resolution camera is important to me because I use Evernote.com.

I consolidate all my hand written notes, PDF's, text, photos, etc. to Evernote. Once uploaded, Evernote automatically processes and indexes them. If I take a photo of a white board with hand written notes on it, or a page of printed text, Evernote makes it searchable for me.

So the higher res camera would (hopefully) produce more detail which is important for the OCR technology happening on the server side of Evernote. It would me ideal for me not to have to carry a camera in addition to the phone for this purpose.

I admit it's a niche application.

p-slim 10-07-2009 11:00 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
if it is possible to live without the keyboard then i would say imagio all the way. you will lose the straight talk which is a feature i use almost everyday but i could live without the beautiful speakerphone if my phone would only be half the size. but do realize its going to be awhile before you reach enough donations to get an unlocker because thats the only cdma diamond 2 version so you will be running stock rom forever.

8notime 10-07-2009 11:05 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
John, I have an Imagio being delivered today. The only thing that concerns me about it, is it's lack of dual mics and speakers. In my profession, I've used the speakerphone extensively. I primarily ordered it to get as many files as I can off of it so I could port them over to the TP2. Stylistically, I think the TP2 has a slight advantage. As far as keyboard vs. no keyboard, I would personally miss that BUT less moving parts = less problems.

redd214 10-07-2009 11:27 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
wow wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning man calm down its really not that serious.

anyways my imagio will be here this afternoon and i will do a comparison for u

rdcrds 10-07-2009 11:29 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Again why is this thread in the touch pro 2 forum

p-slim 10-07-2009 11:32 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdcrds (Post 1219834)
Again why is this thread in the touch pro 2 forum

my guess would be that there are alot of tp2 users in the tp2 forum, and he must want their opinions.

kxs783kms 10-07-2009 11:38 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1219618)
you just couldn't resist a useless post anyway, right??

I swear, some people have no life at all...........

~John

Exactly, you don't have a life! You post a stupid question like this. Other than 6.5 and mobile t.v., the phones are the same. You say you don't use a KB and the camera doesn't matter. So what are you asking for? Duh!!

p-slim 10-07-2009 11:40 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kxs783kms (Post 1219866)
Exactly, you don't have a life! You post a stupid question like this. You say you don't use a KB, so what are you asking for? Duh!!

im not trying to stick up for jmorton because he can defend himself, but i would assume he asked the question to see what other benefits are out there besides the keyboard. he already knows about that one but yet everyone will keep mentioning it.

kxs783kms 10-07-2009 11:44 AM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1219875)
im not trying to stick up for jmorton because he can defend himself, but i would assume he asked the question to see what other benefits are out there besides the keyboard. he already knows about that one but yet everyone will keep mentioning it.

I know P-Slim. I just wanted to throw a few jabs at the "moron" who should remain nameless. I just felt like the guy could have left the "I don't care about your phone" part of it out. As if he's God and we should all focus on his dilema. Other than that, I'm alright with the dude.

redz1234 10-07-2009 12:02 PM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Young_breedent (Post 1219726)
same thing i was wondering lol

I wondered the same thing myself. Found this to be a waste of a thread.

You already answered your questions already. You don't use the HW keyboard, look for something without.... Your only going to get smaller...

Johnson1566 10-07-2009 01:33 PM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Young_breedent (Post 1219726)
same thing i was wondering lol

What!?!?! Another useless post, haha. +3 Why should we bother..

Dragon2 10-07-2009 02:53 PM

Re: TP2/imagio questions
 
i dont care about your phone either OP..lol J/k


So, i think the thing here may be THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE, maybe we just want every damn sweet phone out now because will never be happy, and I say this as for myself also.... The imagio, Htc Pure, Htc leo coming, Man, im already wanting to try these even though I have a unlocked TP2 with a freaking sweet keyboard that tilts plenty with awesome battery life and in my opinion the best screen size avaiable for a phone (although the leos insides are nice, that 4.3 inch is huge, too big and the 1230 mah battery scares me), the stock roms are great and when i ran tmobile stock 6.1 for a month I never had problems that werent from my own doing...

i flashed 6.5 a few days ago after being stock 6.1 for a month, Ive flashed my old sprint tp1 like 50 times to many 6.5 roms, 6.5 is nice and i prefer it, but 6.1 does it just as well and is a great OS IMO so no big woop, you all will have your HSPL soon, and i could see it coming very shortly, leaving the tp2 for a tp2 without a keyboard and tilt, ya may be kicking your asz when spl comes out and everyones flashing away and ya dont have as much support for it either, so ya couldnt go wrong either way...... I just love my tp2 and wouldnt trade it for nothing out yet, if the leo was a 3.6 inch screen with a 1500 mah battery id want that, but untill then, this fits my needs and you need to pick which you prefere.........well thats my opinion IF YA CARE....

oh, and the 3.2 mp over 5 mp, it may help you but i for one rarely take pics with my phone and only view them on my phone so I could care less......


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