TP2 and GSM/CDMA use and summary (What we know thus far)
 

So after I don't know how many posts about the GSM capabilites of various versions of the TP2, I thought I'd post the confirmed information we have so people can stop asking. I would ask nicely for a sticky?

Telus TP2: First version to be unlocked. Telus does not provide an unlock code, but unlock codes can be purchased on Ebay for $13. Once unlocked, the phone can work normally on any GSM network, BUT domestic UMTS.
More information: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=77989

VZW TP2: Behaves exactly the same as the Telus TP2 once unlocked and Verizon readily provides unlock codes (FOR FREE) as long as you have been a customer for 60 days and have only had one phone unlocked in the last 10 months. It has been confirmed that US A&T and T-mobile SIM cards work normally. Again, domestic UMTS is unavailable.
More Information: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=84266

Sprint TP2: Unique in its setup. Does not have ANY SIM lock for foreign SIMS, but REFUSES to register on US GSM networks. Users HAVE confirmed that foreign SIMs function normally once outside the US.
More Information: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=87113

All versions are compatible with text messages, SIM PIN codes, and can read SIM contacts.

The phones cannot operate on both CDMA/GSM networks simultaneously. In Global mode, the phone will search for CDMA signal, timeout, and begin searching for GSM. At any time while the phone is on and it loses CDMA signal, it will ask if you would like to switch to GSM.

Unlocking the Telus or VZW phones is very straight forward. Start --> Settings --> All Settings --> System Tab --> Device Information. The last line will show your IMEI. Provide this number to the company you have chosen to purchase an unlock code from.(VZW will already have a record of your IMEI so this step is not necessary for the VZW TP2.)

Once you have a code, either from VZW or another source. Start --> Settings --> All Settings --> Personal Tab --> Security. Enter the code into the dialog box and hit ok. If successful, a dialog will pop up and say "Your Phone is SIM Unlocked". You're all set, just put your favorite providers SIM card in and start making calls.

Also, for data settings, make sure you don't delete the standard GSM data settings. Rather, just edit with appropriate addresses. This makes sure that phone correctly switches from CDMA/GSM data settings. If you delete the GSM settings, you will have to go set which settings to use each time you switch from/to CDMA/GSM.

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I know that bumping your own thread is a hell-worthy offense, but the questions keep coming.

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this isn't all the info we need to know....this is all the info we know as of now. Once these phones get unlocked this thread will be pointless because there will be more questions that need to be answered and i'm willing to bet that sprint's device will be able to use US GSM carriers as well. Along with a few other changes to the Telus and Verizon versions

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Well, apparently everyone doesn't know it, since they keep posting. And the post is getting thanked.

Obviously, when the phone is unlocked, this will change, BUT NOT for the people who will be using stock ROMs and its safe to say there will be a thread in the TP2 CDMA Upgrades forum for that.

So what was the point of the your post? Maybe instead of saying its pointless, you could say what's missing? None of this will change for people that will not be flashing their phones. Maybe that bad taste in your mouth from Sprint's pricing and locking of the phone is causing some conflict.

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Good retort. I think he was probably referring to the thread title more than anything else though..."all the info you need" as opposed to something like "everything we know to date". Still, he could have found a less condescending way of saying it :angry7: I thanked you for your OP because it was nice to see a summary.

Just a suggestion, and it makes more sense to place this in your OP, but if there are any useful sub-thread links you can put up for others in case they would like to see the more detailed posts you referred to.

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I made the changes you suggested and will be posting links to appropriate threads. Thanks.

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Update with links to sources and more information on unlock process.

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I just called and had mine unlocked. Unfortunately I don't have an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM card to try in it, but as soon as I get back to campus I'll pop in a friends and report back.

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As Covkid stated below i was referring to the title of his thread and the op must of agreed with me because he changed the title. Secondly i paid 199 for my touch pro 2 so no need for a sour taste in my mouth:mrgreen:, i also have no need to use a gsm carrier because sprint is the top dog in my parts why would i downgrade. And also i can't speak on somehing i don't know. The point of my post was to state that this is not all we need to know and the conversation will change once we get an unlocker. I was simply stating MY opinion and really don't see why you felt the need to comment on it as if it was directed to you

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I tried out a Tmobile SIM card and placed a test call, all seems to work well. So it seems that beyond getting the SIM unlock code the Verizon TP2's GSM isn't locked down at all. I didn't try data because my friend doesn't have a data plan on his account so I can't speak on behalf of that.

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I am currently a tmo user who wants to use a vzw tp2. My plan is to have someone who is a verizon customer to activate and unlock the phone for me. My question is, would the phone still work with my tmo gsm sim after the phone is deactivated with verizon?

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Based on all the presented info, yes. The VZW model apparently can be used on ATT and TMO without having to do anything crazy. I just SIM unlocked my phone with VZW tonight and it was a piece of cake. They didn't give me any problems or try to hard sell me on their global plans. I just told them I'd be roaming in EU and planned on using prepaid SIM cards while there.

Nate

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The phone will work fine GSM only once unlocked. It DOES have to be activated once via CDMA or it will keep asking you to activate (You can also do this manually using ##778SEND. Otherwise, you're good to go. The activated phone number won't matter because it default to the GSM number when in use.

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I appreciate this post - I haven't used a cell phone internationally, instead just using a calling card with minutes and local phones when abroad. But I now have a Verizon TP2, and this opens up possibilities.

I will be traveling to Peru at the end of the month. Verizon's roaming rates are ridiculous, so it seems best to purchase a local SIM card. Having never used one (been on Alltel/CDMA for many years), I am not exactly sure how this works:

1. I assume the SIM card I'd purchase in Peru would have a certain number of prepaid minutes, or does this work differently? No plan needed? Activation fees?

2. Would I have a different number that people could call me on from the US? I seem to recall someone saying that if I Unlock, and use a non-VZW SIM, my regular VZW number would no longer work.

3. What about data and texting - how does this work? Is this typically available, do I need to get a SIM card specifically that contains this capability, or what? I don't want to accidentally run up huge data charges with VZW or anybody else.


On my TP2, I currently have it set to "CDMA Only" - I figure I'm in the US, won't be using GSM, so that seems most appropriate. When I travel to Peru, what is the appropriate setting - Global or GSM Only?


Anything else that I'm not thinking of that will also need to be done (other than obviously getting the phone unlocked!).

Thanks!

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Yes, the carrier will have a ~$10 SIM card kit with like $5 worth of credit already on it. No activation fees, just plug it in and your phone now has a local number.

You would have a local phone number that people would have to make an international phone call to reach. Your VZW number will only be unavailable while the phone is in GSM or Global mode and on a GSM network, but you can switch freely between the two.

Verizon has no control over your foreign SIM, thats why they make you agree to additional TOS. Texting will probably work right out of the box and needs no special SIM, just verify what the local operator charges to send and receive them. As for data, it usually needs to be enabled by a TEXT. For example, for my Mobitel pre-paid, when I want to activate data I have to send a text to 1918 that says "Prenos podaktov DA" (DATA transfer YES) Also, you will need to set up a APN and username/password in your data settings for that carrier.

US - CDMA only, unless you're using a domestic SIM card. Peru - GSM only.


That's it. If you buy the SIM card at an actual carrier's store, they'll probably set up your phone for you. Not at like a bodega or something.

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isdnmatt - many thanks for the detailed response!=D>

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would i be able use sprint service on a verizon tp2 since they both use CDMA?

would i be able to use 3G with any other service besides verizon?

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thanks