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I think what I gave you is just for the phone keypad. For the TF3D the manual say to go to start>settings>all settings and then click the system tab. From there you can select TouchFLO and turn off vibrate.

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man, can't believe how many people here will complain about the littlest issues so much so it sounds like they're considering not buying the phone because of the lack of magnetic stylus or the sprint color theme. Give everyone here a few weeks and there will be as many themes as one can imagine and they stylus wasn't anything great it wore out pretty fast. No biggie here. I can't wait til I get mine on tuesday!

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Thanks! Now I have both!

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I had 3 phones (Diamond & 2 TP's) where the little magnetic thing inside malfunctioned completely and either caused my stylus to not go in all the way or made it so loose the stylus wouldn't stay inside. I'm definitely glad they took this off. The stylus on the TP2 is really secure without it anyway.

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Agreed. The magnetic stylus was mediocre at best - def not a deal-breaker...the upgrade in screen size was well worth $350.00 to me, not to mention it looks a hell of a lot sleeker than the TP1.

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3) The phone will charge off the USB port so who cares?!

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You can remap and change the hardware keys to create a tab key with this.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=82030

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My brother just got his and I like it. It's a solid phone. I love the responsiveness of it. Even though I'm out of contract I'm gonna hold off on this only because the stock radio sucks in my area and the latest Verizon TP1 radio gives me full bars, and well I love my flashlight!

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Sorry guys. I made a few corrections since it looks like I did a few thing wrong. Reread my paragraph please. I just updated the memory question and added the light sensor for auto dimming the back light. thats something that I really liked about the TP!.

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I will definitely try that after I exchange this one next week, I hope that was the reason. Not to sure if i removed it or not though, but will be more aware.

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there was this same talk when the touch pro was release. People kept saying it wasn't that much of an upgrade from the mogul and wasn't worth it. The screen wasn't big enough Sprint shouldn't have changed the back cover and so on

Every phone on the market has pros and cons, there isn't one what is going to be liked by everyone.

You shouldn't be buying a phone based one what people say about it. everyone uses their phone differently. I mainly use mine as a media player and listing to music. So I'm looking forward to the bigger / tilt screen and the 3.5mm jack. That alone is worth is for me.

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Mod Edit: Removed negative remarks

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The light sensor on the TP2 does automatically adjust the backlight on the screen to dim or brighten depending on lighting conditions and it also controls the backlight on the QWERTY keypad

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This works on the TP2??? That's good to hear... that app replaces the hardware keyboard driver, I was worried they put in a new HW keyboard driver on the TP2 and broke this app.

I Love this app. Much better than AEButon plus.

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Has anyone tethered the TP2 yet, does it tether the same way the TP1 does or better (example: The TP1 always switched between evdo to 1x everytime within the first 5 min. of tethering.) Did HTC fix this problem.

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1. I think its a MAJOR upgrade from the tp1. Much faster doesnt freeze up (yet)
2. I dont mind the color
3. Seems teh same
4. never really used it
5. doesnt matter really

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So how much memory does the TP2 have less than the TP. I saw one spec sheet that had the same was it wrong?

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Its easy to find out... its all over these forums so try searching for it.

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The disable sent notification messages is an easy fix. Just search for it here. It's an easy reg edit.

An extra USB cable? You can purchase them for < 1$. Not a big deal IMO.

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Has any on tried the conference call yet? I read earlier some where that tmobile restriced it to only 3... can sprint do more? and the picture mail app. is it the same as the tp? I was looking in the manual and it shows sms/mms to send pics instead of sprint pic mail. and if it does use a new app does it send right away unlike the tp and dm

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Im a little confused myself about the 32mb of RAM

I thought all USA TP2 would come with the misread of 256 like the Australian version did then HTC (possibly though carriers) would provide the hotfix like it did to its Unlocked Australian version.

see: http://www.htc.com/au/supportdownloa...act=sd&cat=all

have all the carriers really decided to go with lower ram or well there be a possible hotfix for the US as well?

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There is really nothing that needs fixing. They just aren't counting the 32 meg that is always dedicated to being "shadow ram" for the video ROM, for faster video. It wasn't available before and it isn't now. It doesn't affect the reading as to how much is remaining FREE, because it was always used on the TP1, etc. WHy add more software to correct a non-issue. It's somewhat analogous to having a speedometer that reads 100 mph faster than your car can possible go, and feeling bad that someone else got one that reads 130 mph faster than the car can go. Is that worth "fixing"? In reality, it's not an issue, and isn't here either. Indeed, the FIX may create an issue.

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ok the only con that is pissing me off without a shadow of a doubt is the damn 6.1, I honestly forgot how much i hate running 6.1 with its small menu's. that unlocker can't come soon enough.

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trying to figure out why my tp2 ony have 239 mb (26 mb free) of storage memory, but my tp1 have 327 mb. why take a step back? this is the only thing that is bothering me.

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Page-pooling, pre-loading selected pages, etc. It's not an issue in operation, in fact, it's why it operates faster. You really don't have an issue, except in understanding how it works. Consider this simile - 2 men each have a 1-ton pile of sand to carry from point A to point B. One man carries his load at 10 mph and the other only carries his load at 5 mph.

But the man who carries his load at 5 mph wins. Why? He can carry 200 lbs., and the other man can that goes at 10 mph can only carry 20 lbs. Remember, it's a simile, not a parallel. Another is a computer with a 64 bit bus compared to one with a 16 or 32 bit bus.

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Here is an odd observation.
My family is increasingly communicating by texting. The virtual keyboard on my Diamond is difficult to use for all of this texting, so I chose to get the TP2 for the keyboard.
The screen, however, is so big, that I find the virtual keyboard on the TP2 quite acceptable.
I'll keep it anyway...................................

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if you really like it, you might want to think about the diamond 2, but know one knows when or if this is coming to sprint.

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Yes and Yes

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another con as i think somone mentioned earlier, but this doesn't play well with my pioneer stereo bluetooth deck. For instance i can't end the call from the deck anymore.

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To me, it is not worth to upgrde to tp2 after I tried TP2 a couple days, I feel like I am going to stick with tp1. Data speed is about the same as tp2, it just has better screen, memory is less than tp1, is it an upgraded phone from tp1? Memory should be equal or more than tp1, but it has less memory than tp1. It is not worth to pay $ 349.95 plus tax. I am returning the phone right now.

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i, for one, appreciate your honesty. not because of what i feel, but because you had one and spoke what YOU felt. good job! you get a thanks!

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Isn't that the point of a qwerty keyboard - you dont have to stare at it to type, so you can look at the screen. Anyway, yes the spacebar on mine and a friends are both a little soft so it is hard to really tell if not looking at the screen sometimes.


As far as the D-pad comments - guess I am odd, I never used the dpad on the TP1 for anything... cant stand the idea of a directional controller when you have a damn touch screen. That is why I moved from my MotoQ to the Touch Pro to begin with. Then again, I am using a WinMo 6.5 rom and can click and hold on anything to get a context menu to do all the things people mention having problems with since they cannot select items without opening them.

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What do you mean about less memory? I keep seeing that comment, but what memory are you and other folks referring to?

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A con with this phone is it doesnt come with the internal FM radio, just like the Mogul at first didnt come with the GPS enabled.

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I am holding TP1 and TP2 and I have both phones in my hand right now, click start/setting/system/memory, I see TP1 memory as follow:
Storage Total: 368.12MB Program Total: 200.25MB
Here is TP2 memory:
Storage Total: 239.00MB Program Total: 183.33MB

This is such a step back. TP2 should have memory equal or more than TP1. It also bothers me with "reset" button, we have to slide out battery cover in order to get to "reset" hole. TP2 has a lot of available space outside, why this silly phone designer does not put "reset" button outside the battery compartment? TP2 should comes with at least some kind of case/pouch or holster, headset but it does not. What happens with this manufacture, do they want us to hold the phone in hand even when we're driving? This is crazy. BTW, I am packing and ship it back to Sprint tomorrow. Bye, bye TP2. Enjoy yours!!!

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I think the Pro2 does have the same ran But its rwading incorrectly.

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Whatcha drinking? Vodka here lol

Yes, it DOES have the same RAM, it is just calculated differently, and it page-pools some stuff to give it the nice apparent speed increase. Like Opera staying resident and pre-fetching pages hourly (which there is a hack for if you really think you rather have a bigger number showing for memory). Then there is the issue of the TP1 counting the 32 megs that is Shadow Ram, which means the video ROM is loaded into RAM by the BIOS because RAM is faster. It happens on both the TP1 & 2, but the TP2 doesn't count it, hence the 256 meg of RAM, and the TP1 DOES count it, hence the 288 meg of RAM. But that RAM is NEVER accessible on either device.

The belief that there is less memory is a RED HERRING, it just ain't the case in reality.

It's like the oldest PC's, the 8-bit 8088's and 286's, which could only address 640k of RAM. Then some came out with 1 meg, because they realized that they could shadow the ROM into the extra RAM, and read it from RAM instead of ROM for a speed increase. Old trick............

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almost the perfect phone.

camera still kinda sucks
needs flash.

waiting for 6.5

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Most pros and cons listed are subjective but mine are :

Cons

Lack of a flash (this is fairly big to me)

No FM Radio

no DPad ( minor inconvenience but I used it quite a bit to move down through emails to delete emails quickly without reading)

NEW ONE* I have a leather sprint holster with the magnetic flap that comes over the top.
When I slide the phone in vertically (top up) the display comes on . I then
have to make sure to remember to turn the display off again. This is somewhat annoying and I did not find any setting that explained this . I thought it was a sensor but cannot determine what. I can place in holster upside down and display stays off. Comments welcome.


Soft reset button access by removing cover ( I don't get their reasoning here)

No hands free headset included ( new laws against using handhelds in school zones make
this nice to have to make calls)
Wm 6.1 enough said

Screen loves fingerprints (small issue but smudge resistant would be nice)

Tones on some numbers when using dial pad is inconsistent (no big deal)

PROS:

Screen size Yea BABY !!
Sound Quality Yea BABY!!
Tilt Keyboard (SMS and Mail buttons on keyboard)
2 speakers and mute button on back
I prefer the weight. Makes it feel like more than a cheap plastic toy.
3.5 Mm jack for headphones means I can use almost any pair in a pinch
BATTERY LIFE !!!!!!! (huge plus)
finger friendly menus out of the box
Did I mention Battery life??


Overall,,a nice upgrade , especially for the physical aspects of the phone. A bit pricey for the difference in the TP1 and TP2 but it wasn't enough to stop me from doing it. That screen is just worth the upgrade to me . I have many friends with the Iphone and I get sick of watching the nice big screen compared to my TP1. Also sounds great without headphones , another big plus.I just wish they had included a flash. If anyone can tell me how to fix the display issue coming on when I holster it vertically, please PM me. Thanks

Does anyone have a quick working cab for soft reset shortcut until we have the Energy Rom ?

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The guy who spent $600 and didn't get an extra cord...that's who! Unlike most people, my computer/office is not in my bedroom where I keep my phone at night (often times on on-call and must answer calls at all hours).

I have several USB cords laying around too. Thankfully its a standard connection...good thing this wasn't the first device I've ever purchased. It's frustrating Sprint assumes we don't need them, cause we already paid for them through other manufacturers/devices.

Cosmo