Originally Posted by ranmasaotome510 (Post 1084103)

So awhile back there was leaked photos of various carrier roadmaps and what-not. And after reading a phew topics about sprint possibly leaving the 3.5mm headphone jack off, i conducted a little research to see if this well be in fact true.

And it hit me, While we have back and front pictures of the sprint TP2, we don't have any of the corners. BUT, going back to the leaked roadmap pictures, there were indeed shots for every side/corner of the Rhodium. So what i basically did was use an enhanced image enlarger to see if i could notice any plausible hints that there is indeed a 3.5mm headphone jack.

The original (largest res photo i could find) was 712x533


So what do u guys think?

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084110)

U have an awesome review and I Thank U for taking time to look for posible hints. But the thing is, When the roadmap came out, HTC is not even thinking of a 3.5mm Jack. They said it will be out on the newer models after the last manufactured model without the 3.5mm. So basically, the TP2 that came out really Doesn't have 3.5mm originally. They redid it b4 the release. So there will be no hint on the roadmap images.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084110)

U have an awesome review and I Thank U for taking time to look for posible hints. But the thing is, When the roadmap came out, HTC is not even thinking of a 3.5mm Jack. They said it will be out on the newer models after the last manufactured model without the 3.5mm. So basically, the TP2 that came out really Doesn't have 3.5mm originally. They redid it b4 the release. So there will be no hint on the roadmap images.

Originally Posted by ranmasaotome510 (Post 1084127)

You do have a point.
But in my opinion, i find any info that is in anyway leaked or announced is old news to the general public, there is always something going on behind the scenes, i mean if there weren't, what kind of business practice are people using if everything they need to have confidential is available to anyone nowadays?

While the time line of this all seems really erratic, i think it fits correctly to what it couldve been before any press leaks and or releases.

The original TP2 did infact not have the 3.5mm but press leaks of even a TP2 was possibly a good year ago, i believe along side the release of the TP1.

Then first the road map photo leaks before the 3.5mm jack statement well be for specific carriers.

I'm honestly giving the road-map more credit then a statement, cause statements are just words, when a picture can be more credible. But regardless the 3.5mm jack statement is still credible by all accounts because it is a business choice, aka carrier choice whether to have it or not.

So which brings me back to the roadmap, if this roadmap was in fact confidential at high levels, id say id trust the picture more, then a statement (which isn't a direct correlation to sprint at all, since it simply implies that "some" carriers wont have the 3.5mm jack)

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1084133)

Just cause HTC wasn't thinking of it doesn't mean sprint wasn't..such minor alterations as a 3.5mm port sprint could add easy. Also, HTC's plan to include all 3.5mm in future, Sprint and probably all the carriers knew about those plans way before the general public...in large corporations unfortunately it may take even a year for something to take effect.

This of course then debuts the theory of the delay due to the 3.5mm port and the FCC if it were the case.

Originally Posted by ajac (Post 1084137)

The touch pro 2 DOES HAVE A 3.5mm jack STOP ASKING! sorry just after reading it on several forums it gets old!

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084134)

Yes I understand that. But U see in this image.


Nothing really gives us a hint that it will have a 3.5mm jack. It's just a black black rectangular area. U just put a rectangle and circle in there. So If I put just a rectangle in the middle. The ballgame will completely be different.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084141)

Ok ur irrelevant. I am not saying that Sprint TP2 will not put a 3.5mm jack. I am saying that we will not see the hint on the roadmap Bcoz the roadmap was released B4 they thought of putting one in there.

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1084147)

So you can read HTC and Sprint's mind real time? is that a cellphone option? how much is it for monthly? lol

Originally Posted by ranmasaotome510 (Post 1084146)

then maybe its your screen, cause i can see the black creases perfectly. (CRT Monitor 21" & Apple Cinema 30" LCD)

I'm quite the critique when it comes to photos and imagery

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084153)

U are still irrelevant.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084153)

U are still irrelevant.

Originally Posted by mlin (Post 1084159)

We're all irrelevant in the grand scheme of things...

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1084161)

... At this point it looks like you are just making stuff as you go along..I have set a point that is valid..and you in no way disproved what I said.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084165)

What point did U said is valid? U r irrelevant bcoz U cannot decode what I'm saying. It's really simple. I said, We cannot see the hint on the roadmap coz it was released b4 HTC change their plans. It's that just simple.

Originally Posted by maveagle (Post 1084177)

Why look at the roadmap picture when we have pictures of the actual phone? There's clearly more than only one port at the bottom of the Sprint version.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/213/rearw.jpg

Originally Posted by maveagle (Post 1084177)

Why look at the roadmap picture when we have pictures of the actual phone? There's clearly more than only one port at the bottom of the Sprint version.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/213/rearw.jpg

Originally Posted by ranmasaotome510 (Post 1084225)

U do realize that roadmap came Before the Single Device roadmap photos? (Which btw are carrier specific, so its not from a conference that involved all carriers, it was private) so there was plenty of time for minute changes (again going back to the erratic time line)

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1084259)

This was posted by cesium in this thread:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78150&page=2

This is a video of the verizon version that clearly has the 3.5mm jack so that should basically mean that sprint will definitely get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFDwqvWbogw

Originally Posted by ranmasaotome510 (Post 1084301)

let me try again, since basic English is so hard for you to fathom.

I never condoned the idea that u said sprint was not making changes. I was referring to the picture that i posted in the beginning of this Topic.

What you stated was that the photo i posted in the beginning isn't official, Which i find redundant cause who's for either of us to say it is or isn't. All we can say is how closely it resembles the real photos of the TP2 maveaglehas has pointed out for all of us to see.



Now to continue my defense, i also find your somewhat awkward statement somewhat irrelevant.

Because maveagleshas's photo showing the difference in size of the bottom is not a roadmap picture.

But if you're referring to the long roadmap picture you posted, then its still irrelevant cause there is no diffenet proof of when it was produced or show in any conference.

But if you're referring to my roadmap picture that i posted, then read Note1

Note1: for the record, jethro you're grammar escapes me. Infact some of you're written sentences are so broken, i get migraines trying to decipher them.

Originally Posted by ranmasaotome510 (Post 1084329)

No the problem here is, i've been calling both sets of photos as roadmap pictures, Since that what they were both labeled when i found them. So lets just call the one i found, a sprint jpeg, really i don't care what people call it, and the long one you showed earlier the roadmap.

And the difference of whether its official or not is not the issue, its whether it was intended for releases to a private audience or corporate branch.

My sprint jpeg, would most obviously be for something of coporate level, since its strictly sprint related, But the roadmap u posted earlier would be best suited for a private audience. (most probably made up of corporate leaders, or mybe even just board directors and/or advisers) since you wouldnt wanna mix up people from different carriers since they are all competing against each other.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084347)

I agree with the sprintjpeg that U posted is showing signs of 3.5mm jack. U pointed it out. I did not even question if it was legitimate or not. It's not even a question wether that sprintjpg image will be released to the public or not. What threw me off when U mention "roadmap". I saw the roadmap b4. Now, just using my common sense, I said U cannot see the hint on the roadmap. My rebatal stayed on the roadmap. Then I check the sprintjpeg image that U posted again, It already has the modified back cover. so from the roadmap to ur sprintjpeg, there is already a significant change. But still does not prove me wrong on the roadmap issue. So the point is, Roadmap is HTC 2009 plan. We cannot get the hint on that roadmap coz it was released B4 they change the plan. Simple.

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1084366)

There were 2 road map leaks (as far as I remember). An HTC Road map and a Sprint Road Map...they are both road maps....and obviously he was talking about the sprint one.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084386)

Ok I can agree to that. But if U see the sprintjpeg images he posted, It is spec'd and already has the final design which cannot be a roadmap coz usually roadmaps does not really say a lot about a product. Like I said, The "roadmap" word just threw me off.

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1084403)

We are in the USA..a road map is a phone that everyone already has and we get it 1 year later :(

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1084406)

HAHAHA! I think that's a better definition.

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1084421)

I'm glad we agree...now lets argue about something meaningful..like why is the grass green or the sky blue? :mrgreen: