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kwatcha 12-20-2010 11:40 PM

Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Just like to know if anyone has overclocked their TP2 and what their experiences has been with the increase in speed and if it is worth it or is it a risk that coulkd damage the unit.

Thanks

killerkhatiby009 12-20-2010 11:43 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
There are a few threads about this already, but in my testing there have been no negative effects at all and the speed isnt blow your mind different but its still slightly noticeable and definitely worth it as there are pretty much no down sides. Just play around with the speeds at first and slowly push your way up to the max speed your device allows (each is different; mine is 748MHz) and run it at that level and you should be perfectly stable, as I am. I am using setcpuspeed as my overclocking tool all though there is a new one which I havent tried yet but people are getting good results

mwalt2 12-20-2010 11:58 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
I also overclock to the 748 mhz as well. I've found the dynamic overclocking to be a bit more unstable, so I just run it at 748 mhz all the time. I used to think it would save battery, but these overclocking apps don't adjust voltage to the cpu. In the end, it seems to use the same amount of battery as using stock 528 mhz.

DavidinCT 12-21-2010 12:03 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
I've overclocked my TP2 and it made a notable improvement on playing back a video and some other things.

I have a high bit rate video on my flash card(a kids video to keep my little girl happy) playing back with media player will cause it to studder and be choppy (almost unwatchable), after overclocking to 756mhz or 806mhz, the video will play back perfect, no sudder or choppyness.

Other times with some HD games designed for the HD2, I can get a semi-ok running game running pretty good with overclocking.

If you think you'll over clock and your phone will become a HD2 (1ghz CPU about same size screen), it's not going to happen but, if there is a app that just runs a little too slow, it will help. It will even help the OS speed but, very little.

DOn't be greedy with speeds, with the good there is some bad, if you over do it too much, you'll notice more lockups, just lower the speed and test, there is a happy medium.

I posted in the overclocking thread about my settings, it did help...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...-settings.html

eric12341 12-21-2010 12:40 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
i dont really use it in stock 6.1 unless im visiting graphics intensive sites or watching youtube vids in IE. avoid the new OC program that was just released and talked about in this thread on the next page. that one borked my power button 9screen wouldnt shut off/reverse SOD) and costed me a soft reset and an uninstall of the program of course. and i wouldnt recommend overclocking higher than the 720s.

jamio88 12-21-2010 04:57 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
I also have mine OC'ed to 748. So far I have had no issues with the device being overclocked, and actually I have noticed it seems to have cleaned up the choppiness of Morphgear while running SNES games.

I would say Overclocking the TP2 is a dream come true.

orangekid 12-21-2010 12:15 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2017181)
I've overclocked my TP2 and it made a notable improvement on playing back a video and some other things.

I have a high bit rate video on my flash card(a kids video to keep my little girl happy) playing back with media player will cause it to studder and be choppy (almost unwatchable), after overclocking to 756mhz or 806mhz, the video will play back perfect, no sudder or choppyness.

Other times with some HD games designed for the HD2, I can get a semi-ok running game running pretty good with overclocking.

If you think you'll over clock and your phone will become a HD2 (1ghz CPU about same size screen), it's not going to happen but, if there is a app that just runs a little too slow, it will help. It will even help the OS speed but, very little.

DOn't be greedy with speeds, with the good there is some bad, if you over do it too much, you'll notice more lockups, just lower the speed and test, there is a happy medium.

I posted in the overclocking thread about my settings, it did help...

The TP2 and HD2 have a SIGNIFICANT screen size difference, and as you mention, the QSD 1ghz chip cannot even be compared to weak one they chose to use in the TP2 (528mhz).

I have heard good things about using O/C on the TP2, hell, I even O/C my HD2 sometimes when playing like Final Fantasy 8 for instance at times.

Just try it out and see how well your device performs.

quick99si 12-21-2010 03:54 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Remember folks, always use the Search button before the New Topic button.

AZTECHKA 12-21-2010 04:00 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quick99si (Post 2017520)
Remember folks, always use the Search button before the New Topic button.

+1 on your post count.


Ok... So I just tried WiMoSpeed and overclocked my TP2 but I see no major difference in preformance or otherwise.
Then it seems as though the overclocking is only good through your next soft reset. So I'll be trying a different cab.
p.

DaveTN 12-21-2010 04:18 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwatcha (Post 2017165)
Just like to know if anyone has overclocked their TP2 and what their experiences has been with the increase in speed and if it is worth it or is it a risk that coulkd damage the unit.

Thanks

See the link in my sig line for one of the discussions about overclocking. It's primarily geared towards users that are running the custom NRG ROM but links to most of the other overclocking threads.

In a nutshell, overclocking is working great on my TP2. One of the benefits is that my battery life has improved. Downloads seem faster and it really improves the overall experience with minimal risk.

Its pretty easy to do as long as you follow the instructions in teh threads linked in my sig line.

One last peice of advice; you really should get a fast storage card such as a class 6 card. I can really tell a difference when I switch between my cards - a class II and a class VI - in how my phone functions when it is overclocked. The faster SD card makes a very noticable difference.

Welcome to the world of overclocking.

David

Tybalt39 12-21-2010 09:20 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
I'm using OC Auto 4.2.?. Running 806.4Mhz. Battery life went from not quite a day to three days on a charge! User interface is buttery smooth now. It's a whole new device!

demonlordoftheround 12-21-2010 11:45 PM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2; en-us; MSM Build/MASTER) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1)

OCAuto4.2 works great for me also, though only overclock to 749Mhz.

DavidinCT 12-22-2010 05:30 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2017376)
The TP2 and HD2 have a SIGNIFICANT screen size difference, and as you mention, the QSD 1ghz chip cannot even be compared to weak one they chose to use in the TP2 (528mhz).

I have heard good things about using O/C on the TP2, hell, I even O/C my HD2 sometimes when playing like Final Fantasy 8 for instance at times.

Just try it out and see how well your device performs.

Your right about display size... sorry I should of more defined that, They both have a WVGA display, so same resolution.

Any program that runs on a HD2 I can attempt to run on my TP2 and for the most part, overclocking will get it running pretty good. I agree the TP2 has a Weak CPU and it was a very poor choice to use it. No one could make the TP2 run as fast as a HD2 but, you can get dam close.

As for games, yea, I have got a ton of HD2 games running on the TP2 really good but, not all of them, so, it's not perfect but, it does help and open doors to more games on this old phone of ours.

Nice thing about overclocking is you can underclock too, so when you need it you can go to 768mhz (in my case) or you can idle at 256mhz, so in theary, your battery should last longer when you just typing a text or something.

eric12341 12-22-2010 08:28 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2017966)
Your right about display size... sorry I should of more defined that, They both have a WVGA display, so same resolution.

Any program that runs on a HD2 I can attempt to run on my TP2 and for the most part, overclocking will get it running pretty good. I agree the TP2 has a Weak CPU and it was a very poor choice to use it. No one could make the TP2 run as fast as a HD2 but, you can get dam close.

As for games, yea, I have got a ton of HD2 games running on the TP2 really good but, not all of them, so, it's not perfect but, it does help and open doors to more games on this old phone of ours.

Nice thing about overclocking is you can underclock too, so when you need it you can go to 768mhz (in my case) or you can idle at 256mhz, so in theary, your battery should last longer when you just typing a text or something.

cant underclock it goes to stock speed almost instantly.

DavidinCT 12-22-2010 11:41 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2017991)
cant underclock it goes to stock speed almost instantly.

I guess it depeds on your overclocking app....

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...-settings.html

At idle my phone runs at 192mhz, you can do some reading here and people talk about it, I think it's the steping setting...

quick99si 12-22-2010 06:11 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA (Post 2017523)
+1 on your post count.


Ok... So I just tried WiMoSpeed and overclocked my TP2 but I see no major difference in preformance or otherwise.
Then it seems as though the overclocking is only good through your next soft reset. So I'll be trying a different cab.
p.

This one is confirmed to be working by everyone: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...-shortcut.html

dayznfuz 12-22-2010 10:04 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA (Post 2017523)
+1 on your post count.


Ok... So I just tried WiMoSpeed and overclocked my TP2 but I see no major difference in preformance or otherwise.
Then it seems as though the overclocking is only good through your next soft reset. So I'll be trying a different cab.
p.

Here's a tip. In WiMoSpeed setup screen, there's a button to save the settings. Click it. It will save a shortcut in the INSTALL directory. Copy the file then "paste as shortuct" in your /device/windows/startup directory. It'll overclock after rebooting now. Just to be on the safe side, install WiMoSpeed to your storage card, so if there's an issue, you can just pop out the storage card. Since it's a shortcut in the startup menu rather than the actual overlock program, it can't overclock if the original file is gone.

I've tried all three methods. I like WiMoSpeed the best. It's been stable for the last 2 days i've been using it, and you can reset to stock speed when you want to boot Android. Runner up is netrippers/script with OC_auto4.2, but you have to reboot to reset the speed to stock.

Ifrwatz's original program wasn't usable for me. Oct1.5 constantly gave me SODs.

lifeuw19 12-22-2010 10:05 PM

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Actually... go into your WiMoSpeed folder in program files, copy and paste the file that probably looks something like "WiMoSpeed_748" and put that in your startup file in the windows file... your settings will stay after a soft reset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA (Post 2017523)
+1 on your post count.


Ok... So I just tried WiMoSpeed and overclocked my TP2 but I see no major difference in preformance or otherwise.
Then it seems as though the overclocking is only good through your next soft reset. So I'll be trying a different cab.
p.


horndoctor 12-27-2010 05:38 PM

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I use the OCT1.5 app.
IMO it works great if you find and set the max speed to what your device can handle and then set it to 1 step so at idle it underclocks and then jumps to the high speed when needed.

gera229 01-17-2011 04:38 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Can someone link me a forum post to OC auto? Because I cannot decide which program to use. Does OC auto run as a driver like OCT? How old is it? Older or newer than OCT/ Winmospeed? Who was it made by?

I am trying to choose the best overclocking program that will offer the best/ stability performance clock for clock.

eric12341 01-17-2011 04:57 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
wimospeed is the best. thats what the whole community has agreed on

AZTECHKA 01-17-2011 05:08 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quick99si (Post 2018317)
This one is confirmed to be working by everyone: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...-shortcut.html


Hey bro... I got tired of waiting for Sprint/Microsoft to get their act together... So I went with an EVO for now.

Now I want to sell my TP2 but cannot remove this cab and SOMETHING is preventing me from doing a hard reset. I'm sortof assuming it's this cab...
Do you know of a way to uninstall it? Have you tried to? My phone tells me it's uninstalled... But it's still there. Still functioning. Even after disabling it and going through the uninstall process and soft reset.

Any ideas???

Anyone else experiencing this?

BTW... I'm running a completely stock Sprint 6.5 ROM... Only cabs for effect.
p.

gera229 01-17-2011 05:21 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA (Post 2038580)
Hey bro... I got tired of waiting for Sprint/Microsoft to get their act together... So I went with an EVO for now.

Now I want to sell my TP2 but cannot remove this cab and SOMETHING is preventing me from doing a hard reset. I'm sortof assuming it's this cab...
Do you know of a way to uninstall it? Have you tried to? My phone tells me it's uninstalled... But it's still there. Still functioning. Even after disabling it and going through the uninstall process and soft reset.

Any ideas???

Anyone else experiencing this?

BTW... I'm running a completely stock Sprint 6.5 ROM... Only cabs for effect.
p.

I am in need of a touch pro 2. Once you have things figured please let me know more information about your phone and price in private message.

AZTECHKA 01-17-2011 05:29 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
I'll post it up in the bargain trader... I have 2 extras... Mine and my wife's They were both recently refurb replacements. I'm keeping mine as it will be fun to play with not to mention as a charger for my EVO's 2nd battery and wifi Music player.

I haven't got around to posting my wife's. It's in really good shape other than a little ding on one of the corners. She had a belt case on and scraped it on a wall. Other than that... pretty much minty fresh.
lol.

I'll get around to posting it up unless I get some offers before then. I never installed the overclock on hers... She wouldn't let me install anything on it. lol. She liked it stock.

I still would like to know how to remove the overclocking cab though.
Not having much success with that.
p.

gera229 01-17-2011 05:32 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA (Post 2038596)
I'll post it up in the bargain trader... I have 2 extras... Mine and my wife's They were both recently refurb replacements. I'm keeping mine as it will be fun to play with not to mention as a charger for my EVO's 2nd battery and wifi Music player.

I haven't got around to posting my wife's. It's in really good shape other than a little ding on one of the corners. She had a belt case on and scraped it on a wall. Other than that... pretty much minty fresh.
lol.

I'll get around to posting it up unless I get some offers before then. I never installed the overclock on hers... She wouldn't let me install anything on it. lol. She liked it stock.

I still would like to know how to remove the overclocking cab though.
Not having much success with that.
p.

There's a crack on a corner or what do you mean by a ding?
If you are willing to sell it in the 130s price range let me know. If not then I guess I won't be getting it.

AZTECHKA 01-17-2011 05:43 PM

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No cracks... Just a scrape on the paint... I'll get some pictures... I'm willing to entertain all offers... Just would rather get more than less for it obviously... I'll consider your offer as the first one... If I get more I'll go there. I've seen them go for much more. Not trying to get rich... But also not trying to give it away bro. I'll let you know for sure.
p.

Tybalt39 01-17-2011 07:34 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2038558)
Can someone link me a forum post to OC auto? Because I cannot decide which program to use. Does OC auto run as a driver like OCT? How old is it? Older or newer than OCT/ Winmospeed? Who was it made by?

I am trying to choose the best overclocking program that will offer the best/ stability performance clock for clock.

Click the "OC 806" link in my signature.

gera229 01-17-2011 08:46 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
I see what it is now. Thank you. I guess it's for use with netrippers app, something more difficult to set up. Thank you.

gera229 01-22-2011 08:14 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Hey I installed winmospeed 1.03 and would like to know what set link for actual speed does. I mean it worked for me even without it set.

Where can I check my clock speed, I mean in phone settings it says stock speed 528mhz.. is it normal?

Remember OCT 1.05 you had to run OCT 1.5 stop.exe if you wanted to uninstall it, is anything like that required to uninstall winmospeed?

I think I will stick with winmospeed and not run OCT for the rest of my TP2 life because I think it is slightly better and I hope my phone lasts me a year or 2 at least.

mwalt2 01-23-2011 01:31 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2042344)
Hey I installed winmospeed 1.03 and would like to know what set link for actual speed does. I mean it worked for me even without it set.

Where can I check my clock speed, I mean in phone settings it says stock speed 528mhz.. is it normal?

Remember OCT 1.05 you had to run OCT 1.5 stop.exe if you wanted to uninstall it, is anything like that required to uninstall winmospeed?

I think I will stick with winmospeed and not run OCT for the rest of my TP2 life because I think it is slightly better and I hope my phone lasts me a year or 2 at least.

528 mhz is the stock speed. If you want to run winmospeed at startup, you can use the option to create a shortcut/link with the current speeds and place it in \windows\StartUp. Just make sure you are 100% sure that the speed is safe. If it's not, you'll have to hard reset the phone to get it to boot and not lock up. I've had good luck going about 200 mhz over stock speed (748 and whatever the step below is).

gera229 01-23-2011 01:34 AM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwalt2 (Post 2042492)
528 mhz is the stock speed. If you want to run winmospeed at startup, you can use the option to create a shortcut/link with the current speeds and place it in \windows\StartUp. Just make sure you are 100% sure that the speed is safe. If it's not, you'll have to hard reset the phone to get it to boot and not lock up. I've had good luck going about 200 mhz over stock speed (748 and whatever the step below is).

Step below is 729.6 which is what I am running. Thanks for all the help.

gera229 01-23-2011 03:24 AM

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1 Attachment(s)
My phone charge is indicated 100% and while in charge it still shows the amber light. I used Touch Pro2 Cleanup by GoodThings2Life . Wonder if it could have been because of this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2038570)
wimospeed is the best. thats what the whole community has agreed on

Attached below is someone else benchmarks of winmospeed vs OCT 1.5. He ran it several times and linked his most average results.
Winmospeed wins in the first parts while OCT wins on the bottom down the list on some even while it is in stock speeds (ex. file list (main memory)).

And on one of them OCT 1.5 wins by 1000 like file list (main memory). Does this big difference mean that it is affected a lot? I mean is this big difference on something that is important for performance?

Looks like winmospeed along with OCT 1.5 have their own advantages pros and cons. Winmospeed seemed to worsen when overclocked then when stock by a significant amount of about 200-300 in sd card write, but is this something that affects performance on apps if run off of the sd card or is just the performance for this task (and does it apply to the program when being run off of the sd card and thus affecting the performance)?

However based on the benchmarks (yes of course which one performs faster on important tasks rather than non important tasks [meaning don't count which had higher numbers overall which is obviously going to be winmospeed; however I am not sure if those were important things that winmospeed had better scores on, but if they were then winmospeed is the winner]), I would like to get an opinion on which one is better overall.

If possible can you list me whats important and affects performance most in a list as 1 being the top and most important thing that if speed is high on it performance will be affected most and the last one being the last number (how many ever things the benchmark scored on).

Which benchmark would be the one too look at that would determine performance best on hard apps (like games or like 3d shooter games or racer on tp2)???

Maxx134 01-23-2011 03:49 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2042344)
Hey I installed winmospeed 1.03 and would like to know what set link for actual speed does..

I already explained it to you in other thread...
It is an option...
to make your unit automatically run at your desired speed after a soft reset.

Whereas normally it would resort to default setting and not be activated after a reset.

Maxx134 01-23-2011 04:12 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2038570)
wimospeed is the best. thats what the whole community has agreed on

Agreed..
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwalt2 (Post 2042492)
528 mhz is the stock speed. If you want to run winmospeed at startup, you can use the option to create a shortcut/link with the current speeds and place it in \windows\StartUp.

Explained again gera..
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwalt2 (Post 2042492)
... I've had good luck going about 200 mhz over stock speed (748 and whatever the step below is).

This is a safe speed as most units usually top off at 748,
BUT you still need to test yourself, increasing to your maximum speed,
as the later built units are able to go significantly higher, around 800Mhz..

gera229 01-23-2011 06:11 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Yup done. I am guessing I will stop worrying about OCT then, just benchmarks keep bothering me that I attached. Especially where OCT scored by 1000 better than winmospeed on one of them.
My question is, is this part an important part to performance? And storage card (write) is also by a lot lower, so my question is the same for this too (is this something to do with performance? Or just to write apps on the sd card or something? I mean will it affect and make an app run slower than the other setting? Or is it just to install apps makes the difference in speed?)

Maxx134 01-27-2011 07:19 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2042823)
... just benchmarks keep bothering me that I attached. Especially where OCT scored by 1000 better than winmospeed on one of them.

Only when reading & writing, like when the app is saving a file, first opening a file,etc.
You may not notice as it also will depend on the card and at most we are prob looking at maybey a half sec worst case average but that is a broad guess as there are just too many variables.

quick99si 01-27-2011 08:11 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA (Post 2038580)
Hey bro... I got tired of waiting for Sprint/Microsoft to get their act together... So I went with an EVO for now.

Now I want to sell my TP2 but cannot remove this cab and SOMETHING is preventing me from doing a hard reset. I'm sortof assuming it's this cab...
Do you know of a way to uninstall it? Have you tried to? My phone tells me it's uninstalled... But it's still there. Still functioning. Even after disabling it and going through the uninstall process and soft reset.

Any ideas???

Anyone else experiencing this?

BTW... I'm running a completely stock Sprint 6.5 ROM... Only cabs for effect.
p.

I've experienced the same problem during my comparisons between OCT, WinMoSpeed, and the old MSM. Here are a few things I would try:

1. Perform a hard reset using the hard keys (hold SEND+END+VOL DOWN)

2. Look around why "Clear Storage" wouldn't work for you. It's a bit strange that it doen't work, I've never heard of this happening.

3. Delete the OCT driver entries in the registry. Take a look at HKLM/Drivers/Builtin/OCT and wipe it all out.

4. Or you can just flash the stock Sprint rom. It'll do a complete wipe (ala Task29), flash the Sprint approved radio, and the rom of course.

Best of luck to ya and hope you enjoy your TP2!

AZTECHKA 01-27-2011 08:16 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Sounds like alot of work for a backup phone.

I love phones but not really into it.
I'll just keep it on there.
I probably won't be selling it considering the battery works on my EVO and it charges it. I was hoping to do a hard reset. I know how... The phone just won't go there... It never pulls up bootloader.
Oh well.
p.

quick99si 01-27-2011 08:23 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
That's weird. Have you tried doing a "Clear Storage" from START/SETTINGS/System? I think Sense has it also under Settings/Security/Factory Reset.

If that doesn't work, this will for sure:
1. Download this: ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Touch%20Pro%20...60660_Ship.exe
2. Run it.
3. It's the equivalent of a hard reset.

AZTECHKA 01-27-2011 08:42 PM

Re: Anyone overclocked their TP2
 
Thanks again bro.
p.


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