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quick99si 09-08-2010 08:47 AM
Re: *OVERCLOCK* Specific OCT V1.5 Settings
 
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Definitely!
If you run a benchmark you'll see proof.
What benchmarking tools have you tried? I'd be interested in quantifying the change since I have a side bet going on that video rendering won't see anywhere near a 150% increase (based on the cpu's increase from 528 to ~750mhz).

But pressing the start button alone, or even scrolling through image-heavy lists, shows a definite improvement... definite enough to not be psychological.

Eschelon 09-08-2010 12:55 PM
Re: *OVERCLOCK* Specific OCT V1.5 Settings
 
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What benchmarking tools have you tried?...
SPB Benchmark works. I've attached it below. Just be warned that it takes like 20-30 minutes to run each test. For comparison, before overclocking I scored like a 1350, after the OC I scored like a 1420 (I can't remember the exact numbers so these are from the best of my memory). Point is: Don't expect some sort of GINORMOUS increase... just a minor boost ;)

Also be warned that the results are not always consistent

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Originally Posted by Ph33zy (Post 1937754)
do you guys actually notice any performance increase?
The answer is "yes and no"

While there are certain performance increases with things like list population (\Windows folder comes to mind), typing seems more responsive, and a few other things seem to be a little quicker... but a lot of the stuff you would think (and hope) would speed up sadly doesn't at all

For example: I use Sashimi to install all my programs and make my regedits automatically after every flash. It usually takes about 15 minutes to run. Overclocking the CPU does NOT make it finish even a second faster. Believe me, I've timed it. Scrolling through the manila tabs does not seem to improve much (if at all), apps do not open any quicker, and the homescreen weather animations are still slow as molasses.

I think there are many other bottlenecks at play here. Overclocking the CPU may help to some degree in a few areas and it's fun to do, but if you can't seem to get yours to overclock too much then fear not - you won't be missing all that much

horndoctor 09-08-2010 03:09 PM
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Definitely!
If you run a benchmark you'll see proof.
What benchmarking tools have you tried? I'd be interested in quantifying the change since I have a side bet going on that video rendering won't see anywhere near a 150% increase (based on the cpu's increase from 528 to ~750mhz).

But pressing the start button alone, or even scrolling through image-heavy lists, shows a definite improvement... definite enough to not be psychological.
I used the benchmark in sktools and the increase was pretty dramatic. Before oc my device scored lower than the average scores of many other devices in several categories. It was even slower than the old vogue in one of them! lol
After oc at 768mhz it scored much higher than most if not all other devices in each category.
I may try to install spb benchmark and see what I get.

Ph33zy 09-08-2010 04:13 PM
Re: *OVERCLOCK* Specific OCT V1.5 Settings
 
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Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1938554)
SPB Benchmark works. I've attached it below. Just be warned that it takes like 20-30 minutes to run each test. For comparison, before overclocking I scored like a 1350, after the OC I scored like a 1420 (I can't remember the exact numbers so these are from the best of my memory). Point is: Don't expect some sort of GINORMOUS increase... just a minor boost ;)

Also be warned that the results are not always consistent


The answer is "yes and no"

While there are certain performance increases with things like list population (\Windows folder comes to mind), typing seems more responsive, and a few other things seem to be a little quicker... but a lot of the stuff you would think (and hope) would speed up sadly doesn't at all

For example: I use Sashimi to install all my programs and make my regedits automatically after every flash. It usually takes about 15 minutes to run. Overclocking the CPU does NOT make it finish even a second faster. Believe me, I've timed it. Scrolling through the manila tabs does not seem to improve much (if at all), apps do not open any quicker, and the homescreen weather animations are still slow as molasses.

I think there are many other bottlenecks at play here. Overclocking the CPU may help to some degree in a few areas and it's fun to do, but if you can't seem to get yours to overclock too much then fear not - you won't be missing all that much
Thanks for the feedback... I was hoping it would get rid of the lags when using Manila with CHT, but it seems like it doesn't. I also would imagine thatoverclocking would drain the battery faster as well.

Eschelon 09-08-2010 04:45 PM
Re: *OVERCLOCK* Specific OCT V1.5 Settings
 
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Originally Posted by Ph33zy (Post 1938756)
Thanks for the feedback... I was hoping it would get rid of the lags when using Manila with CHT, but it seems like it doesn't. I also would imagine thatoverclocking would drain the battery faster as well.
Funny you should ask about power consumption. It's an odd result, actually, as increased battery drain DOES NOT seem to occur when overclocking...

According to the dynamic power equation in physics, the dynamic power draw of a circuit is P=ACV^2F

*where A = activity factor (i.e. CPU switching), C = the capacitive load, V^2 = voltage squared, and F = the frequency

By increasing the frequency of the CPU (i.e. overclocking) by, say 35%, you would see an increase of 35% in the CPU's specific power draw on the battery. Yet, for some reason, increased battery drain does not appear to occur.

My only hypothesis on this is that the general CPU frequency must not be a major power drain on the battery (whereas screen brightness, video encoding, web browsing, et. al. are) so increasing F on the chip doesn't suck that much more battery

madjokeer 09-08-2010 06:08 PM
Re: *OVERCLOCK* Specific OCT V1.5 Settings
 
i noticed if settings put on jump/load min = 10 with 1 step @ 691.2, while playing music, it does not freeze/SOD, and during calls, basically its perfect!

horndoctor 09-09-2010 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ph33zy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1938554)
SPB Benchmark works. I've attached it below. Just be warned that it takes like 20-30 minutes to run each test. For comparison, before overclocking I scored like a 1350, after the OC I scored like a 1420 (I can't remember the exact numbers so these are from the best of my memory). Point is: Don't expect some sort of GINORMOUS increase... just a minor boost ;)

Also be warned that the results are not always consistent


The answer is "yes and no"

While there are certain performance increases with things like list population (\Windows folder comes to mind), typing seems more responsive, and a few other things seem to be a little quicker... but a lot of the stuff you would think (and hope) would speed up sadly doesn't at all

For example: I use Sashimi to install all my programs and make my regedits automatically after every flash. It usually takes about 15 minutes to run. Overclocking the CPU does NOT make it finish even a second faster. Believe me, I've timed it. Scrolling through the manila tabs does not seem to improve much (if at all), apps do not open any quicker, and the homescreen weather animations are still slow as molasses.

I think there are many other bottlenecks at play here. Overclocking the CPU may help to some degree in a few areas and it's fun to do, but if you can't seem to get yours to overclock too much then fear not - you won't be missing all that much
Thanks for the feedback... I was hoping it would get rid of the lags when using Manila with CHT, but it seems like it doesn't. I also would imagine thatoverclocking would drain the battery faster as well.
I can say that I notice that Manila works better/smoother with the overclock especially if you set it like I have mine now with just 1 step at 1000ms interval or for even better performance 0 steps 0 interval which will be max speed all the time.

slinkydoo1982 09-09-2010 02:20 AM
Re: *OVERCLOCK* Specific OCT V1.5 Settings
 
I'm glad to see these posts where people state their OCT settings. I've found a pretty stable setup, one where I get a noticeable speed increase, but slapping someone else settings on there, only to discover that it's another viable solution is great. Plus, I want to see what setting ends up getting the majority of us to our max.

Please keep posting your setup folks, I have a lot of faith in OCT.

ctiger 09-15-2010 03:12 PM
Re: *OVERCLOCK* Specific OCT V1.5 Settings
 
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I can say that I notice that Manila works better/smoother with the overclock especially if you set it like I have mine now with just 1 step at 1000ms interval or for even better performance 0 steps 0 interval which will be max speed all the time.
Does that mean the power consumption go up?
I'm new to OCT, and to my understanding, it'll be better to "automatically" ramp up when computing heavily and down when nothing is running to give a good performance and still not burn the battery. But because I don't use music player that much, I didn't test all the conditions to verify the settings.

horndoctor 09-15-2010 03:40 PM
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I can say that I notice that Manila works better/smoother with the overclock especially if you set it like I have mine now with just 1 step at 1000ms interval or for even better performance 0 steps 0 interval which will be max speed all the time.
Does that mean the power consumption go up?
I'm new to OCT, and to my understanding, it'll be better to "automatically" ramp up when computing heavily and down when nothing is running to give a good performance and still not burn the battery. But because I don't use music player that much, I didn't test all the conditions to verify the settings.
You've got the right idea. Basically, it makes sense that the longer the cpu stays at a higher clock speed than 528mhz(oem setting) the more power is used. In my post you quoted above I was only talking about settings for maximum speed and response not maximum battery life. The cool thing about this app is you can tailor it to your needs. Max Speed, Max Battery, or a balance of both. I am trying to find a balance of both and still have my device respond quickly when I want it to. I need to give an update with my current settings.

My current settings are:
cpu_max: 768mhz
steps: 2
load_max: 25
load_min: 10
jump_max: 50
jump_min: 2
interval: 950ms

Working great! :)


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