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i have a tp2 sprint, my first windows mobile device. and it will be my last. sorry to be so negative but iv stuck with it for a year now and im done. the last straw was the lack of things i could be doing with it. an app came out for myfitnesspal came out for iphone and android, but no wm. what gives!! i would love to track my food intake on the go. also i been looking for a app for vevo to watch music videos, but failed again, iphone has it, and android will have it to. but no talks about wm. sad sad sad.
this isnt a rant about how mush better the evo is. i hate how big that phone is. ill be looking for something else in the android market. i like my touch pro 2, not a bad device, i just dont like wm anymore, it feels so outdated now. |
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windows mobile is dead, it's all about windows phone 7 now. there is no more development for 6.5 or the windows mobile platform in general.
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the 2 youtube apps work fine for music videos, jus create a playlist of your favorite videos on the youtube site and then they will show up in the google youtube app after you login and there you go, or in the htc app you can just bookmark each one. spb TV also has some music video channels, and you can also watch the desktop youtube in IE, desktop vevo will work in skyfire, and theres an endomno sports tracker in the marketplace that does the same things myfittnesspal can, there are plenty of equivalent apps on winMO que tambien existen en el ifone y android asi que calmate.
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get a evo, no problems with that device...
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haha. i see what ur saying, i just dont want to settle for something thats kinda like the real thing. yeah sports tracker is kinda like myfitnesspal but its not. data base on my fitnesspal is way bigger, and thats already where i keep all my logs. u cant watch over 1000 real music videos on youtube do to copyrights, they take them out. iv tryed skyfire and yes it sucks, but its a start.
the main thing im saying it that it seems like no1 is making things for wm anymore. at least 6.5. |
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a- Run ANdroid/Linux/Rhobuntu:Ubuntu/WIN95/98 FULL - lets see another OS dual/triple boot anything! b- Custom skin every single image your eyes can see - Without even having to Root(or wait for Root) or Jailbreak 1) want iPhone UI and Icons - done, LOTS of ways to pull that "look" off 2) want WIN7 UI - done, SPB/WAD2/ c- FREE WIFI/USB/BT Tethering - no Rooting, no Jailbreaking..and ALL have shareware apps, but Android nor iPhone have freeware ways to tether-without Rooting or Jailbreaking 2) lmFAO!!! really dude?? you cant remember what you ate in a day? lol.. seriously though: a- open NOTES, and write it down b- use the audio recorder in your device c- eat less food since you need to "catalog the inventory of what you ingest lol - just being funny here man 3) If your idea of an "OS that doesnt fail you" is being able to watch Music Vids all day...............................and track the mass amounts of snacks you must ingest in a day to need to "track it"....then well, you probably never shouldve owned a winMO device.... EVER lol |
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Your right dude, the tp2 might be able to run all those programs that you state and thats cool and all but my problem that I had my tp2 was consistency and smoothness. I don't remember the last time I reset my android phone. With my tp2 I have to reset it several times in a 1hr period. What is the point of running all those programs when the phone isn't stable? You say that you can get an iphone ui and the iphone look on the tp2 but that doesn't mean anything. Just because it looks like an iphone or android that doesn't mean its going to run like an iphone or android. Its like putting the body of a mercedes over a dodge neon. Its not going to make it a mercedes. Plus to do all those things you say you can do with the tp2 requires unlocking it which is just like rooting or jailbreaking. So in that sense your on the same boat as everyone else. You also don't need to root an android phone to be able to tether. I have an unrooted evo and I can tether just fine at no extra cost to me. On my android phone I am able to run all kinds of apps without my phone crashing. And I'm not saying this cause I hate winmo. I love it but the android os is more stable and it doesn't matter if the tp2 can cook me an omlette and feed me, the point is that my evo just works. The only way I was able to use my tp2 succesfully was to unlock it and install a custom rom on it. In the end it is just stupid how your trying to make winmo the best os out there. My point is that there is not one os out there that does everything perfectly. You use what works best for you. In my case android is more stable than winmo and thats why I haven't gone back to using my tp2 full time anymore. Plus, last time I checked there were more android users than winmo and iphone users were the most satisfied users of any smartphone. Those results speak for themselves. The TP2 is a great phone and I use when I go out of the country but for daily use I want a phone that will run and not crash on me all the time. You can keep saying what you say about winmo but that isn't going to make it all true. I'm glad that winmo works for you. As for me, android is now my new favorite. The only way I will go back to any windows phone is when the new OS comes out. Also your response to that guy that wants to track his food intake is " a- open NOTES, and write it down b- use the audio recorder in your device c- eat less food since you need to "catalog the inventory of what you ingest lol - just being funny here man" Cmon dude. What a sorry remark. Typical response from a winmo user. Because they don't make any good apps. That was one of my biggest complaints with winmo. Lack of apps and those apps that did make it to winmo sucked. The reason companies don't make apps for both android and winmo is because developers are tired of having to deal with the inconsistency of winmo. In the end I will stick with my android and keep my tp2 as a backup and you can continue your rant on winmo doing all these great things. I'm glad you enjoy your phone. |
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My TP2 does everything I want it to do, and it does it well:
1) Able to view, modify, and send/receive office documents and pdf's. I can even create pdfs from my phone on the fly. It even uses office 2010, not some crappy ripoff that lets you view but not modify the documents. 2) Able to customize the look of my phone at will 3) Tether/mobile hotspot for me (& others). I was just on a trip and the hotel wanted to charge $9.99/day per person for internet access (no lie). No problem - fired up my TP2 and had everyone connect for FREE. Not only did my phone pay for itself that week, the look on peoples' faces when I told them to connect wirelessly through my phone was priceless. 4) View Slingbox and watch live TV. Can even hook it up to in-car screens for the kids on long trips. 5) GPS Nav - free 6) Visual voicemail (& faxes) using my existing PhoneFusion service 7) much more than I can list No disrespect intended, but I've always considered WinMo devices to be for power business users. I'm pretty sure that's how it's been marketed, and how most of the online reviewers have classified it. You seem to be more of a social user. This device runs PROGRAMS, not APPS. That's why I bought it, and that's what I like about it. I can integrate pretty much everything from my daily routine and my laptop, which makes my life a hell of a lot easier. I wouldn't be able to do that with an android phone (yet), and I sure as hell couldn't do it with an Iphone. Your fundamental premise is accurate: development is not as robust as that for other platforms. However, I'm not looking to watch music videos or track my fitness routine. You are, and that's cool, but the fact that you chose the wrong device for your needs doen't mean that the device sucks. It means you chose the wrong device. I could never live with an Iphone, but lots of other people can. Different strokes for different folks. Next time, maybe do a little more research before you purchase a phone - hopefully you'll make a better choice for your needs. |
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being that i used android for what.. 7 months straight ( hero ) recently came back to the tp2.. and have to say while i do miss alot of certain apps.. on my hero.. in reality.. I only use my phone for a few things... text. web. music.. and a few pics.. and having a keyboard again rules..
but wm is dead.. oh well... I still like wm ( even with all its quirks ) better than all other os's.. you can call me crazy etc.. lol but my needs are not the same as the current app hungry joe public.. plus my wife is enjoying my hero too much now. so im stuck til dec.. will prolly get the evo.. Just because ive only used htc since the ppc-6700.lol |
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WinMo = work
Android = Nothing more than a toy... |
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so how does it fail you again if this is your first winmo phone? as bored said i would love you to show me a android or iphone running 2 or now 3 different os's... |
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Everything you just said your tp2 can do an android phone on 2.2 can do it also. I also was able to do all that with my custom rom tp2 and now with my evo I can still do it. Just like you I was on vacation with my family and needed internet so I used my phone as a modem with 4g connection. How is that any different? How do you know that I am just a "social" user as you said it? You are right about the tp2 being more for business and that is what I used it for. Now I use the evo as my business phone. I use my phone for my business all the time and therefore I am a "power business user" as you said it. The reason you can integrate everything from your laptop to your tp2 is because windows is the os and its made that way. Just like you can integrate everything from a mac into an iphone. That's nothing new. And your saying "This device runs PROGRAMS, not APPS.", what do you mean by that? You can call it an app or a program, those things that run on smartphones are applications no matter where you run them. There are some applications that can only run on winmo and others that run on android. Can you give me an example of a program vs an application? (that can run on an unlocked/unrooted phone) My point is not that you can play music and video on a phone and thats it. My point is that you can play music and video and use it for business all at the same time which I am currently doing, all without having stability issues-TP2. As of now I am able to do everything on my android phone that I was doing on my tp2, its just a lot smoother. I can tether, I can run outlook sync, I can use for my business the same way I can do with a tp2. I still love my tp2 and thats why I still have it but like ive proven to myself by using it, its a lot more stable. I don't need to do any research. My research is having both phones and using them the same way and noticing one phone does it more efficiently than the other and so far my choice for a phone was good...My evo runs better than my tp2. Its as easy as that. One thing you and I agree on, I couldn't live with iphone either-lol |
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I am curious on how Windows Phone 7 will be since it seems as it's going to be very restricted and controled by MS. I read 3rd party UI's from the carrier and manufacture such as Sense wont be allowed (not a bad thing in my opinion, sense is pretty, but sorta is crap at the same time), No user access to the central file system, and who know what else it's going to restrict. I only skimmed whatever article it was that i read that in. It sorta sounds like its going to be Restricted like crApple.... However, on the flip side, maybe this will be good for MS, I'd love to see the WinPho7 take a bite outta Android and crapple.
I dunno, i'm just thinking out loud here.. i'm in the wrong thread too... lol |
Yep ,wrong thread but who cares.
It should be interesting to see. Although it will have sense though. Couple weeks back htc made an announcement that there would be sense on wm7 but that it would be trimmed down a bit. I myself live htc sense. Ive been using it since the htc touch. If you have a custom rom tp2 its even better. As for it being restrictive at first it may be bad but it will probably get better. Especially if it gets unlocked. I'm looking forward to trying it out. I like android better then wm but wm7 will probably bring a lot of cool stuff to the table. Like the link between the 360 and xbox live, not to mention the microsoft office compilation that could be useful for everyone, not just business users. It looks like att will be first to carry a wm7 phone. I guess we'll see. I myself want an htc wm7 phone. Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk |
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Not to sound mean but if you really need me to explain this I here the android thread is nice this time of year!!!!!! |
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my droid x is just as productive as my tp2 is when it comes to work related situations and in some cases its better. of course my needs may be different from others but in the end it really just comes down to personal preference and what you need out of your device. nothing is gonna be good for everyone!
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Yep. In the end it's what works for you personally and for me tp2 served me well. Now I an using the evo and that is serving me even better. Either way I'm done going back and forth. I'm happy with the tp2 and now I'm even happier with the android os and my evo and that's that. If you like wm better then good for you, if you like android better then good for you too.
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It would be better to compare a G1 to TP2 since they both have comparable specs. Either way it's apples and oranges...
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I'm sorry but a small a$$ screen on the TP2 or any phone for that matter is not made for work.
I have a TP2 and used an evo and both served me well, evo served a bit better because i do not get those 30 secs freezes thanks to sense. The only work related item i do on my phone is getting my email through the exchange server and very rarely trade. If i need to do work it would be 500x faster to just walk over to a real computer and do it. Doing web searches is also 500x faster on a computer then on a phone. Trying to order a freaking train ticket online to get me from DC to NYC was pain using any type of mobile phone. Smart phones to me are nothing more then entertainment/informational devices. Trying to defend WM 6.x saying it is a better work phone is a joke. Phone is a phone and defending it is dumb because at the end of the day most of you will have a different device by mid year. |
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good point man, winmo def doesnt have either of those things!
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u guys got this thread going while i was at work. thx for replying.
boredandtattooed -- i used to think just like u, just turn the other cheek and forget about it, look for another alternative. but thats not what i want to do. u can how there is a lack of support for this os. if they can have it why cant winmo. we all have different needs and since im not home mush and an app that can track my intake on the go is awesome. its not what i eat its calculating the calories i eat. (no im not fat, im actually super skinny). another thing i was just shown, an app that can calculate ur heart rate. and its crazy accurate. tested it with my heart rate monitor. u can run anyother platform, yeah thats cool. but just go and tell any android user that ur winmo phone can run android too and they tell u, then y are u still with winmo. i havent heard any android user say "i wish i can run winmo on my device. cuz they dont want to. ooxteme -- it fail me with 6.1, again in 6.5, failed with lack of support from apps, having to reset. memory leaks, the list can go on. and about an android or iphone running 2 or 3 os. why would they bother. it seems winmo users are the only ones trying to run another os. WinMo = work Android = Nothing more than a toy... more like WinMo = work Android = Nothing more than a toy........... and work u can have ur cake and eat it too. as for as wm7 goes, how hard is it going to be to tell programmers to look back at Microsoft again. its going to be so hard to catch up. with the other 2 os going at it. |
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If your car quit running on you 3 times on the way home you'd take it in to the mechanic. If the lawnmower turned off several times while mowing the lawn on your .125 acre lot during a single mow session you'd get it looked at or get a new one (which you obviously have done re: your phone). Several reboots an hour is absurd. There are, however, tens of thousands of very satisfied users of the TP2 who DON'T reboot several times an hour, or day, or week or month for that matter. I haven't had to reboot my TP2 since I got it replaced for water damage (they don't swim for crap, thankyouverymuch!) 2 months ago after re-installing all my "mods". Not unlocked, not 'hacked'. Yes, YMMV. Yes, some work better than others. Yes, some devices are lemons, but the OP was posting due to application availability not hardware reliability. |
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"ooxteme -- it fail me with 6.1, again in 6.5, failed with lack of support from apps, having to reset. memory leaks, the list can go on. and about an android or iphone running 2 or 3 os. why would they bother. it seems winmo users are the only ones trying to run another os".
6.1 was replaced with 6.5 and now 6.5 is soon replaced with windows phone 7, as os's get old they are replaced just like anything else in the world... and 6.1 had almost no leak and if yours did it was prolly caused by a program you installed, had it happen to me in the past. And yes we are the only ones that are running 2 or 3 os's, and why? CAUSE WE CAN!!!!!!!! But hey if you happy with another os then your happy and in the end thats all that matters, but when you come in to a winmo forum and complain about how bad of a experience you had after 30 or so post's your going to get some not so helpful responses. As for the lack of things you can do with it, care to state what you are trying to do that you think cant be done? |
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It's too slow, buggy, and no one is supporting Windows Mobile anymore. Fanboys will swear it is an awesome device, but all you have to do is using a Droid X in the Verizon store and its painfully clear that the TP2 is simply outclassed. The sluggishness, freezing, sleep of death, etc is just unacceptable. The lack of software support is the nail in the coffin. NOTHING is being released for Windows Mobile anymore. Yes, you there are "alternative" ways doing things withouth those "Apps", but they usually suck. What's the point of having a full-featured smartphone type device if it sucks as being a full-featured smartphone type device? |
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wow lots of android fanboys in this thread. hope y'all enjoy all the trojans and battery draining apps waiting on android. I used to have respect for android until its fanboy users came in to tp2 or any other wm related thread and started bashing it, we wm users don't do that and still probably won't when wp7 comes out. and it's not the os that sucks just because there aren't any apps for it. its the ignorant naco developers who are android and iPhone fanboys themselves, BB gets excluded too so its not just WM. oh and you don't see BB users complaining about this because they're satisfied or have more class and sense then to go on a forum and complain. if you don't like wm then don't post about it, and goto something else,plain and simple. entienden?
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did you even take the time to read what I said? Your trying to compare a 1 year + old device with to the latest and greatest... Nothing being released???? Really???? have looked over at XDA lately? There is new stuff there all the time over there... O and what cause's that sluggish, freezing, ect your talk about, answer HACKING/MODDING when you do this 90% of time its not going work perfect there will be a hiccup here or there. Sorry to rant but I hate these "android/soon to be android" people coming here and telling us how bad winmo is all the freakin time... Just wait for WP7... |
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OMG dude yelp?? en serio?? just goto the full version of the yelp site and do everything there, the wm browsers are powerful enough to use that site. theres also apps that have the same capabilities such as BING, GOOGLE MAPS, and a few others that i saw in the marketplace. my phone works just fine,i dont know what your doing with yours, i dont get those text freezes on this 6.1 rom im running so ill agree on 6.5 being buggy in that regard. ive been on WinMo almost as long as you have i started with an ipag 1910-dell axim x50-dell axim x50v-dell axim x51v-htc touch pro and now im on my tp2, these are all great devices that can do the same things you can do on a COMPUTER,not what other smartphones can do.
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im here because i still use my tp2 daily and still enjoy tinkering with it. winmo is not all that bad imo, its is still a great os but its just not the king of the hill anymore. its like a ps2. sure there is much fun to be had with the huge library of playstation 2 games but its far from the best thing out there when it comes to consoles. |
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from these sites, there's been more articles about those on android vs just one for WM.
where's a mod to close this thread that's laden with flame bait? |
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HUH?!! Well I got the EVO a few days ago......
They want to charge me $30 for hotspot... used to be able to do it for free on my TP2. No more Office, there is a reader, yet to create a document, I have to buy an app...:-( Wheres my taskmanger?.............have to buy one...:-( Where are all my cool programs/apps?..........have to buy them...:-( Im still to new to the Evo to start bashing it though. It is fast, and I love the huge screen. The productivity features on the Evo seems to be 2nd to the TP2 though. Saludos!! MR 6.20 Version with oveclock at 768 gets you super smooth and super fast on the TP2. Try that if you feel it is sluggish. Saludos :-) |
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running free wifi on the tp2 was free because of a hack (reg tweak or by finding an older version on wmwifirouter) the same can be done with your evo. root it then look for wifi tether in the market, its free. office, well yes being a microsoft suite you will have to pay for it on other os's, thats to be expected though. as for the task manager, do u need one for closing out programs or for switching between programs? depends on your reason for it but there are free solutions for both majority of apps in the market are free. what specific "cool program/app" are you looking for? perhaps i may be able to help u find it. honestly searching for apps in the market on the phone is a real pain in the ass atm (still easier than scouring thru online forums though). you should goto appbrain.com for searching for apps. if u have anymore questions let me know. EDIT: in terms of productivity it depends on what u mean by that. i find a lot of productivity apps on android to be comprable if not better on android, especially tasks programs. its crazy that tasks, something that microsoft essentially made popular themselves with outlook, can be handled so much better on another platform |
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