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NCX Designs 03-29-2010 12:42 PM

Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
Ok here's what i've found and i need some suggestions or maybe a workaround.

I found that when taking pictures with the battery cover on, takes not so great pictures. Using the same settings and without changing anything, it takes considerably different quality pictures without the battery cover on.
I tried to clean the clear shield that protects the camera but i'm really thinking about drilling a hole or something to get rid of the plastic.

Many times now i have taken pictures that were once in a lifetime and they turned out bad.

here's a good comparison below:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...m/IMAG0006.jpg<with battery cover

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...m/IMAG0007.jpg< without battery cover

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...m/IMAG0008.jpg<without battery cover

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...m/IMAG0009.jpg<with battery cover

AZTECHKA 03-29-2010 12:50 PM

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Only 3 tines???... Welcome to the club.
I take bad pictures all the time. LOL.

I think you're on the right track however you have to consider the dust that will accumulate in the lense once you remove the protection. I've thought about removing the battery cover to take pictures and putting it pack on once I'm done.

p.

NCX Designs 03-29-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AZTECA (Post 1667592)
Only 3 tines???... Welcome to the club.
I take bad pictures all the time. LOL.

I think you're on the right track however you have to consider the dust that will accumulate in the lense once you remove the protection. I've thought about removing the battery cover to take pictures and putting it pack on once I'm done.

p.

removing the cover would take too long to try to take a pic of something that can't be taken again
but in any case, it would also eventually wear it out and keep it from staying on. mine is already cracked around the stylus holder, think it happened from having to remove the battery a few times from freezing on some ROM's.

i have considered that it would get dusty and dirty, but cleaning the camera directly vs the cover which is alot harder to do since its not smooth, but inside an inlet, i have considered the consequences before thinking about removing the plastic

now, if there is a better battery cover out there that has a much thinner piece of plastic and is clearer than the current one, i'd bite

heck, a black matte cover would be nice too :P

123sit 03-29-2010 01:29 PM

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I just pushed the plastic cover out of the battery door. It's just glued in and comes out very easily and reinstalls just as easy if you dont like it. I also havent noticed an accumulation of dust. I looked a friends blackberry and thats exactly how blackberry did it. No cover and recessed beneath the battery door so its still protected. Just my 2cents.

NCX Designs 03-29-2010 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 123sit (Post 1667677)
I just pushed the plastic cover out of the battery door. It's just glued in and comes out very easily and reinstalls just as easy if you dont like it. I also havent noticed an accumulation of dust. I looked a friends blackberry and thats exactly how blackberry did it. No cover and recessed beneath the battery door so its still protected. Just my 2cents.

do you have a picture of what it looks like without the piece you removed?
the only piece i see that actually comes off is the whole black piece that is part of the speakerphone button and the HTC logo on it

gof 03-29-2010 03:54 PM

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The green tint is a clue. There is a thin plastic scratch protector (for shipping) on the inside of the battery cover. It's supposed to be removed! Check it out.

123sit 03-29-2010 04:01 PM

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Sure do, but I think it may be because I have a US Cellular phone and the battery cover is different. It's hard to see in the picture but the lens cover has been removed.

sanjsrik 03-29-2010 04:11 PM

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just to ask an obvious question. the inside of the cover has a blue piece of plastic over it when the device comes. It's to protect the lens. have you taken this off?

123sit 03-29-2010 04:45 PM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanjsrik (Post 1667982)
just to ask an obvious question. the inside of the cover has a blue piece of plastic over it when the device comes. It's to protect the lens. have you taken this off?

Sure have.

NCX Designs 03-29-2010 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gof (Post 1667950)
The green tint is a clue. There is a thin plastic scratch protector (for shipping) on the inside of the battery cover. It's supposed to be removed! Check it out.

sorry, but I'm not stupid, i looked for one of those cling protectors like all phones usually come with, and i removed every one when i got the phone last year.

and fyi, i'm not the only one that has this issue.

NCX Designs 03-29-2010 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 123sit (Post 1667964)
Sure do, but I think it may be because I have a US Cellular phone and the battery cover is different. It's hard to see in the picture but the lens cover has been removed.

Thanks for taking a pic to show me
is your phone a CDMA? or a GSM?

I found that same cover online for $15, i might end up buying one
sadly, my VZW cover has the lens protector on a thin aluminum piece with the speakerphone button :(

AZTECHKA 03-29-2010 06:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schwartz1 (Post 1668194)
sorry, but I'm not stupid, i looked for one of those cling protectors like all phones usually come with, and i removed every one when i got the phone last year.

and fyi, i'm not the only one that has this issue.

Bro... I don't think gof was assuming you were stupid. Just seems to me he was trying to be helpful. There's no way for ANYONE to know if you have removed it or if you are stupid unless you tell us you have removed the film or prove that you aren't stupid. I think you've accomplished both of these successfully.

Most of us know that bad shots with this phone are inevitable.
p.

123sit 03-29-2010 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schwartz1 (Post 1668203)
Thanks for taking a pic to show me
is your phone a CDMA? or a GSM?

I found that same cover online for $15, i might end up buying one
sadly, my VZW cover has the lens protector on a thin aluminum piece with the speakerphone button :(

CDMA, good sir

gof 03-29-2010 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECA (Post 1668283)
Bro... I don't think gof was assuming you were stupid. Just seems to me he was trying to be helpful. There's no way for ANYONE to know if you have removed it or if you are stupid unless you tell us you have removed the film or prove that you aren't stupid. I think you've accomplished both of these successfully.

Most of us know that bad shots with this phone are inevitable.
p.

Also, with the TP2 I found it interesting that there was a cling protector in the outside of the peep hole (typical) AND the inside. How did I find out you ask? Because my first shots were tinted and somewhat blurry. I had removed the outside one, but had missed the much smaller one covering the inside surface. So no, I don't think anyone's stupid. This is just the first phone I've seen with an interior film as well. D'Oh! :mrgreen:

Padron26 03-29-2010 09:41 PM

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just to warn some of you guys. ive got the seidio 3500 mah battery and the cover is larger than the stock tp2 battery cover.
but when i take pics for instance, in landscape i will almost have rounded corners on the top and bottom right side.
ive ordered a new cover from seidio and same result its just the way they are made.
the only way to get around this for me would be to drill out the hole another 1/16 of a inch or so.

kb112 03-30-2010 12:35 AM

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Seems this was an issue for peeps on the TP1 also. I think mine takes pretty damn nice pics, except for those in low light of course. Anything is better than the slow ass focus on the TP1, that camera sucked. The pics were good when it wanted to take them.

w8tvi 03-30-2010 01:39 AM

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The problem is that this clear cover is a fingerprint magnet.
I have a lens cleaner that I use to clean it off before I take a picture, and I never have a problem.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/...76f27853_b.jpg

nrfitchett4 03-30-2010 01:53 AM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
gonna do a trial with my protector off (sprint's just pops out pretty easy).

hindibuff 03-30-2010 02:49 AM

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Hi,

Did you pop the lens protector OUT or INwards. I would hate to crack the thing trying to pop it out the wrong way.

nrfitchett4 03-30-2010 05:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hindibuff (Post 1669088)
Hi,

Did you pop the lens protector OUT or INwards. I would hate to crack the thing trying to pop it out the wrong way.

took off cover and pressed from the outside in. you can see how it is fixed in there (for sprint). just kept increasing gentle pressure till it popped out.

jmorton10 03-30-2010 07:52 AM

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I think we all just need to live with the fact that even for a camera phone this thing takes pretty lousy pics.

I have a nine year old daughter that loves to take pics & she wanted her own camera for Christmas. I wanted something cheap that I didn't have to worry about getting stolen etc & bought her a little pink camera at Staples on sale for $29.

Not only is that $29 camera MUCH easier to use (it picks a higher shutter speed most of the time so the pics do not come out blurry), it takes better pics 99% of the time also........

~John

gpshemi 03-30-2010 09:51 AM

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I drilled a small hole that lines up with the reset button that JUST fits the stylus. Takes 2 minutes and no more taking it on and off. Unless you want to take the card out. I never do that though.

AZTECHKA 03-30-2010 11:09 AM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
I think we're just not going to be happy with the photo quality of this phone. I've just decided It takes the pictures it does and that's what I get for the convenience.
I think it's gonna take a new phone to really improve my photo quality.
p.

hindibuff 03-30-2010 04:50 PM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4 (Post 1669153)
took off cover and pressed from the outside in. you can see how it is fixed in there (for sprint). just kept increasing gentle pressure till it popped out.

Thanks so much. Will try.

i360 03-30-2010 04:57 PM

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (Windows Mobile; WCE; Opera Mobi/WMD-50369; U; en) Presto/2.4.13 Version/10.00)

I've popped the lens cover off the back a long long time ago and no issues. The camera sucks regardless but takes clearer photos without the cover. No real dirt or dust issues.... And I can always glue it back in if needed.

sanjsrik 03-30-2010 05:13 PM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schwartz1 (Post 1668194)
sorry, but I'm not stupid, i looked for one of those cling protectors like all phones usually come with, and i removed every one when i got the phone last year.

and fyi, i'm not the only one that has this issue.

I took a video with my phone came out amazingly well. No problems here.

nerv666999 04-20-2010 07:39 AM

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forget plastic the lens should be glass. for those of us who frequently flash roms dust isn't the issue but scratches and wear and tear. HTC should get a clue and use glass or a much higher quality polycarbonate, I mean what is the megapixel count worth when it is blurred by a crap lens?

Rager02 05-02-2010 02:51 AM

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ive become very aware of the much better pics when removing the lens my only question about doing this is the future negative outcome if there is one.Has anyone had theres out for a while and seen something bad or good?tyia

summer time is just about here in the DMV taking alot of pics and would like to see every drop of water.

Edit: Also if i were to remove the lens and it got dust/dirt etc. what can i clean it with?

bobturismo 05-02-2010 05:09 AM

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I held up the cover to a dim light bulb, it was real easy to see it was scratched up so I just popped it out.

I'm just gonna keep my eye open for an alternative, may be able to just gab a piece from some other device or what have you.

Oditius 05-02-2010 07:37 AM

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You know it's funny, every time I call USCC about the camera they keep acting surprised and mentions that everyone says it's phenomenal. I told her, nope, it take worse pictures than my TP1 did. So they sent me a new phone. Well probably a refirb, it was just the phone, no back, no cover no stylus. I put a battery in the new phone and took a picture, it looked great. Then I put the back cover on, and took another picture. It looked just as bad as the other TP2. Hmmm I took the back off and looked through the plastic cover. It was smudged in the center. (Yes I tried to clean it and so did the manager at the USCC store) No plastic covering (I have found a few in the past that I forgot to remove.) But it was blurred. So after a long talk and several visits to the USCC store, I got it replaced. USCC would not send me one, but they offered to refund the $$ as a credit on the bill if I bought one and gave them the receipt. The store manager said forget that, it could take a week to get it, the end of the month to see the credit. So he took off the back of a new one in the store and switched it with me. He will return the phone as defective when opened. Just another reason I love USCC. The pictures are ok, just have to play with the white balance to get it looking great. But after all, this is a phone not a camera. I have a camera in case I need to take really great looking pictures, but in a pinch this will do. (BTW they are sending me another phone because this one stopped sending txt messages. Go figure, get one problem solved and another arises)

Emmrt6 05-02-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
After reading this post I took a couple pics with the cover off then on. The pics were a lot better with it off. I looked at my old Blackberry Curve that I had forever and it does not have a lens in the cover and I rarely had to clean the camera lens inside so I popped mine out too. It really isn't even noticible looking at the phone that it's missing.

NCX Designs 05-02-2010 10:18 AM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
For everyone worrying about your lens getting dirty, the actual lens is behind a piece of plastic that is on the inside of the phone after you take off the battery cover, so theres two piece of plastic all together

one on the battery cover
one on the actual lens

while the one is removed from the battery cover, even if you get dirt on the camera, it won't damage it since its still protected

but i don't have to worry about it anymore since i have my Droid Incredible to take photos on the go, and i'm loving its performance and all the apps that are available

jmorton10 05-02-2010 11:12 AM

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but i don't have to worry about it anymore since i have my Droid Incredible to take photos on the go, and i'm loving its performance and all the aPps

I would buy an incredible today except my two favorite apps (sling mobile and Sirius) don't work in it.....

nrfitchett4 05-02-2010 11:43 AM

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had my plastic cover off for a few weeks and it is definitely much better. But I also don't abuse my phone, it stays in a case (never in the pocket), so I don't know if that matters. But I forgot my camera on my daughter's field trip and it took pretty good pics.

PPC6700Hooligan 05-02-2010 04:58 PM

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In reply to the comment about a black battery cover, there are a couple of good youtube videos on dying the cover to anything you like..very easy to do and looks way better in black.

Hover-Shuttle 05-28-2010 01:15 AM

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I took a photo on a rainy day with the cover on & one with it off...

Judge for yourself...

It's not that hard or slow to pull the cover when you want to take a decent pic.

Runin' Energy May 16th Rom... 23569 Cookie.

Wesley762 05-28-2010 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hover-Shuttle (Post 1778522)
I took a photo on a rainy day with the cover on & one with it off...

Judge for yourself...

It's not that hard or slow to pull the cover when you want to take a decent pic.

Runin' Energy May 16th Rom... 23569 Cookie.

It is kinda hard when you have a Snap on case, only thing I have had issues with the camera is low light, attached is one that I took with good light.

Hover-Shuttle 05-28-2010 11:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley762 (Post 1779487)
It is kinda hard when you have a Snap on case, only thing I have had issues with the camera is low light, attached is one that I took with good light.

True, I don't use a snap on case... so I don't even know how they attach. (that must make soft reseting with the stylus harder)


edit: great pic...

Wesley762 05-29-2010 12:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hover-Shuttle (Post 1780227)
True, I don't use a snap on case... so I don't even know how they attach. (that must make soft reseting with the stylus harder)


edit: great pic...

Ya its a pretty big pain in the butt, after about the second time you try taking the snap on cases off its a almost given that one of those little tabs are going to break. the tabs that hold them on are less than a 1/8th of a inch wide and paper thin. I am just about ready to by another Body Glove case and just Mod it so I can use the Reset button without taking the case off.

It was a really nice day out, I got a bunch of great shots of my daughter with my phone, the light was just right.

IronRed 09-16-2010 07:33 PM

Re: Touch Pro 2 - Battery Cover/Camera fix?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NCX Designs (Post 1668194)
sorry, but I'm not stupid, i looked for one of those cling protectors like all phones usually come with, and i removed every one when i got the phone last year.

and fyi, i'm not the only one that has this issue.

Call me stupid, but I didn't realize that there was a blue film on the inside of the battery cover. It really looked like the blue was on the outside of the cover. But now all is good!


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