Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1613832)

Now that we've gotten it out of the way that its not stealing, you are wrong technology has changed by Verizon keeping the best network with towers and their going lte, all of this is costing billions and the company needs to make up for it.

Originally Posted by WBFAir (Post 1613835)

As I have said, I have been through all this before and if you think what you think sprintgirl keep in mind that all I have been doing is trying my best to reply to what ever crap I get as I have barely made one single new point on anything for about 5 pages now.

So yeah if all I get is insane crap then how am I supposed make that into anything else.

But as I said I've been through all of this before and no one yet here can dispute the right and the wrong of this, which btw is why this kind of thing always ends up this way with nothing but crap.

But in the end all I have to say is, if you think I am so wrong and you are so right then let’s put that to the test.

Like I have always said, lets make this a choice and see what happens an let the results from that decide as after all if I’m so wrong then no one will dump there data plans and nothing at all will happen.

But you all know that’s not what would happened don’t you and by all of your very own zealousness to fight this you are by your very actions admitting just how much you know that, an how wrong you are, an proving me right every time with every word, as simply put, you all know just as much as the carries know as why else would they make this mandatory and take that choice away, that there would be a enormous amount of people that would dump this data plan in a heart beat an those are all the people that agree with me and know how wrong you an this is and as such then you would end up paying more for your precious data and that is what you are all really afraid off and why all your arguments end up being nothing but crap.

So simply put again, lets test if I’m wrong an you are right is, help get this optional an lets see what happens, but as long as you fight against that all you are doing is proving me right with every word and showing how deep down inside you all know it.

So go on banter an twist this all you want but until anyone of you are ready to prove that with what I am proposing, then none of that means anything.

Originally Posted by WBFAir (Post 1613840)

Wow its really amazing what you classify as making the grade for the grand decision.

Basically its anything that makes you able to steal, huh p

Well read what else I posted and when you are ready to put your money where your mouth is then let me know.

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1613856)

Wow, is this Guy serious right now? You do realize all that is regulated by the government thru businesses like FCC and such? So obviously its not stealing so why would you want to bet me, I'm already right. You make it seem like this is something their in court for or something.

Originally Posted by dtrush (Post 1613855)

And that's why I propose paying for it via a voice/text plan which I derive benefit from. Not by a mandatory data plan because of the model of phone I use which data plan minimally would provide benefit.
If you drove up to the gas station and the attendent forced you to purchase the "premium" gas rather than the regular stuff just because you had a nicer car than the next guy you would look at him in bewilderment because of the rediculous logic. Same here with these debates which are taking place now.

Why does Verizon need to choose what's "best" for me? For years I determined what was best for me and now they insist that a data plan is also "best" for me. Stupid!

I'm glad you admit it is because of their hidden agenda to build up the towers, etc.
If they want to invest in infrastructure they should use their PROFITS to do it, take a little less so that users who want to pay for that portion of their service will do so on the merits that they NEED and will benefit from Verizon's sacrificial investment.

Until then........ Long live Page Plus Cellular=D>

Originally Posted by dtrush (Post 1613897)

Sure, anything is legal.

I think WBFAir was really thinking that Verizon was using extortion to get peoples money.

Main Entry: ex·tor·tion
Pronunciation: \ik-ˈstȯr-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : the act or practice of extorting especially money or other property; especially : the offense committed by an official engaging in such practice
2 : something extorted; especially : a gross overcharge
— ex·tor·tion·er \-sh(ə-)nər\ noun
— ex·tor·tion·ist \-sh(ə-)nist\ noun

But, like I said, Verizon is able to do what ever the hell they want. Until they morph into a monopoly they aren't doing anything illegal. We're free to jump around from carrier to carrier.

Originally Posted by dtrush (Post 1613897)

Sure, anything is legal.

I think WBFAir was really thinking that Verizon was using extortion to get peoples money.

Main Entry: ex·tor·tion
Pronunciation: \ik-ˈstȯr-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : the act or practice of extorting especially money or other property; especially : the offense committed by an official engaging in such practice
2 : something extorted; especially : a gross overcharge
— ex·tor·tion·er \-sh(ə-)nər\ noun
— ex·tor·tion·ist \-sh(ə-)nist\ noun

But, like I said, Verizon is able to do what ever the hell they want. Until they morph into a monopoly they aren't doing anything illegal. We're free to jump around from carrier to carrier.

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1613942)

This is a valid point if view, I'm not arguing this.

Originally Posted by sprintgirl (Post 1613955)

Highly doubt he will understand that definition...cant even spell or read...practically illiterate.

Originally Posted by WBFAir (Post 1613835)

As I have said, I have been through all this before and if you think what you think sprintgirl keep in mind that all I have been doing is trying my best to reply to what ever crap I get as I have barely made one single new point on anything for about 5 pages now.

So yeah if all I get is insane crap then how am I supposed make that into anything else.

But as I said I've been through all of this before and no one yet here can dispute the right and the wrong of this, which btw is why this kind of thing always ends up this way with nothing but crap.

But in the end all I have to say is, if you think I am so wrong and you are so right then let’s put that to the test.

Like I have always said, lets make this a choice and see what happens an let the results from that decide as after all if I’m so wrong then no one will dump there data plans and nothing at all will happen.

But you all know that’s not what would happened don’t you and by all of your very own zealousness to fight this you are by your very actions admitting just how much you know that, an how wrong you are, an proving me right every time with every word, as simply put, you all know just as much as the carriers know as why else would they make this mandatory and take that choice away, that there would be a enormous amount of people that would dump this data plan in a heart beat an those are all the people that agree with me and know how wrong you an this is and as such then you would end up paying more for your precious data and that is what you are all really afraid off and why all your arguments end up being nothing but crap.

So simply put again, lets test if I’m wrong an you are right is, help get this optional an lets see what happens, but as long as you fight against that all you are doing is proving me right with every word and showing how deep down inside you all know it.

So go on banter an twist this all you want but until anyone of you are ready to prove that with what I am proposing, then none of that means anything.