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WarChild 02-17-2010 02:03 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lazydazed (Post 1571988)
mods delete this thread a.s.a.p.!!!

We don't delete threads here just because you don't like them. You'll have to go somewhere else for the kind of treatment.




CW

djqwikcut 02-17-2010 02:41 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
I have an unlimited plan.. I dont do a lot but I do stream RADIO.. sometimes 3-4 hours at a time.. I have never been charged in years and years..

WarChild 02-17-2010 02:54 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djqwikcut (Post 1572171)
I have an unlimited plan.. I dont do a lot but I do stream RADIO.. sometimes 3-4 hours at a time.. I have never been charged in years and years..

thats been established.



CW

lazydazed 02-17-2010 03:41 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1572081)
We don't delete threads here just because you don't like them. You'll have to go somewhere else for the kind of treatment.

lol.. i was just makin a funny..

w7excursion 02-17-2010 04:01 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1571072)
Not very well because your wrong.
"Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred and to deny, terminate, modify, or suspend service once that 5GB data cap is reached. Going over once in a while is OK. We'll check usage using a rolling, three-month basis. Customers would have to exceed the limit in two out of three consecutive months to face termination." ~Sprint

CW

Its the other way around. Call sprint, chat or whatever. Its unlimited from your phone and modems have the cap.
"Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB." - Sprint's T&C's

lazydazed 02-17-2010 04:08 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w7excursion (Post 1572375)
Its the other way around. Call sprint, chat or whatever. Its unlimited from your phone and modems have the cap.
"Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB." - Sprint's T&C's


nice job...now me and my 9gigs of usage this month can rest easy tonight..whew.

w7excursion 02-17-2010 04:11 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
As long as you dont get caught for phone as a modem. Hard to get caught but I did once a long time ago,years. Didnt disable NAI on my flip phone.

supdawg 02-17-2010 05:05 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
People do some crazy stuff with their connection. I just hope that some idiot trying to run a small country from his smartphone doesn't ruin it for everyone and they place a hard cap on everyone.

lazydazed 02-17-2010 05:50 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
im pretty sure sprint wont give too much of a crap about 3g after 4g starts rolling out this year...and then loooong gone will be our $10/15 unlimited plans.

WarChild 02-17-2010 05:51 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w7excursion (Post 1572375)
Its the other way around. Call sprint, chat or whatever. Its unlimited from your phone and modems have the cap.
"Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB." - Sprint's T&C's

I can post quotes too.
"Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred and to deny, terminate, modify, or suspend service once that 5GB data cap is reached. Going over once in a while is OK. We'll check usage using a rolling, three-month basis. Customers would have to exceed the limit in two out of three consecutive months to face termination." ~Sprint



CW

WarChild 02-17-2010 05:58 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lazydazed (Post 1572678)
im pretty sure sprint wont give too much of a crap about 3g after 4g starts rolling out this year...and then loooong gone will be our $10/15 unlimited plans.

I dont think they care at all. Like I said there isn't a cap


CW

WarChild 02-17-2010 06:18 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
So I owe some of you and apology, aperently there WAS a cap when I signed my aggrement but I just got off the phone with Sprint who said they just needed to remove the wording from my aggrement becouse the is NO MORE CAP. I asked very plainly if I could use 7 terabits of data through my phone a month for the rest of my life and Mike G (Sprint rep.ID for this incident is 137508 ) and he told me YES! If you have an unlimited data cell plan there is no limit to how much data you can use. So again my bad.



CW

jigwashere 02-18-2010 01:49 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
If you're going to post a quote, why not link to it?

The 5GB cap is for Mobile Broadband. There is no cap for data use on the phone. Here's the link:
(Sprint Terms & Conditions)

At least 2 or 3 people have posted in this thread that they have exceeded 5GB usage on their phone with no consequences. I believe them.

I have not seen a single post in this thread by someone who has exceeded 5GB data usage on their phone and gotten a charge.

WarChild 02-18-2010 02:30 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jigwashere (Post 1574635)
If you're going to post a quote, why not link to it?

The 5GB cap is for Mobile Broadband. There is no cap for data use on the phone. Here's the link:
(Sprint Terms & Conditions)

At least 2 or 3 people have posted in this thread that they have exceeded 5GB usage on their phone with no consequences. I believe them.

I have not seen a single post in this thread by someone who has exceeded 5GB data usage on their phone and gotten a charge.

I can quote "Learn how to read" and there is even a link there for ya. And there WAS a cap but you wouldn't know about that because again you don't read. Have a good day.

Oh and by the way look at this part.
Data: Services are not available with all Sprint phones. Usage is calculated on a per kilobyte basis and is rounded up to the next whole kilobyte. Rounding occurs at the end of each session or each clock hour and, at which time we deduct accumulated usage from your plan, or assess overage or casual usage charges. You are responsible for all data activity from and to your device, regardless of who initiates the activity. Estimates of data usage will vary from actual use. Your invoice will not separately identify the number of kilobytes attributable to your use of specific sites, sessions or services used. Premium content (games, ringers, songs, etc.) priced separately. Services are not available for use in connection with server devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitutes for private lines or frame relay connections. Except with Phone-as-Modem plans, you may not use a phone (including a Bluetooth phone) as a modem in connection with a computer, PDA, or similar device. We reserve the right to deny or terminate service without notice for any misuse or any use that adversely affects network performance. Availability of downloadable or streaming content is subject to change, including but not limited to television channels and radio stations. If user is not subscribed to a data included plan or add-on, pay-as-you go charges are incurred when using data applications and services.


And just in case you wanna run it under PAM
Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB.



CW

John1 02-18-2010 03:03 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1574719)
I can quote "Learn how to read" and there is even a link there for ya. And there WAS a cap but you wouldn't know about that because again you don't read. Have a good day.



CW

Now thats funny. I needed that thanks!

jigwashere 02-18-2010 06:13 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1574719)
I can quote "Learn how to read" and there is even a link there for ya. And there WAS a cap but you wouldn't know about that because again you don't read. Have a good day.

Oh and by the way look at this part.
Data: Services are not available with all Sprint phones. Usage is calculated on a per kilobyte basis and is rounded up to the next whole kilobyte. Rounding occurs at the end of each session or each clock hour and, at which time we deduct accumulated usage from your plan, or assess overage or casual usage charges. You are responsible for all data activity from and to your device, regardless of who initiates the activity. Estimates of data usage will vary from actual use. Your invoice will not separately identify the number of kilobytes attributable to your use of specific sites, sessions or services used. Premium content (games, ringers, songs, etc.) priced separately. Services are not available for use in connection with server devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitutes for private lines or frame relay connections. Except with Phone-as-Modem plans, you may not use a phone (including a Bluetooth phone) as a modem in connection with a computer, PDA, or similar device. We reserve the right to deny or terminate service without notice for any misuse or any use that adversely affects network performance. Availability of downloadable or streaming content is subject to change, including but not limited to television channels and radio stations. If user is not subscribed to a data included plan or add-on, pay-as-you go charges are incurred when using data applications and services.


And just in case you wanna run it under PAM
Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB.



CW

Why are you being abusive? What have I done to offend you so deeply? That was my first post in this thread, and I don't see anything in my post that should cause such a reaction.

I read multiple quotes, but people were not providing their source. I was able to find the source for the post above regarding Mobile Broadband, but I can find no source for the statement that data access on my phone is limited to 5GB. I think you need to read more carefully. My statement is that data access on my phone is not capped. I do understand that Sprint has the right to manage their network to prevent the abuses that would impact their customer service level agreements (implied or stated), but Sprint says nothing about capping data access on my phone. The 5GB limit relates to data cards and using your phone as a modem. That does not limit streaming 10GB of video to my phone: it limits streaming 10GB of video to my laptop through my phone.

I have never seen a single post in any online forum, nor have I seen a single news report where someone said they were charged or denied service for using more than 5GB of data on their phone. Can you show me any examples? I don't mean that as a challenge -- I really would like to see explicit examples. So far, all I'm hearing is people freaking out without providing any facts. I have found multiple posts where users say they regularly exceed 5GB. The only examples of extra charges or denials of service relate to exceeding the stated 5GB limit while tethering or using a data card.

jigwashere 02-18-2010 06:24 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1568935)
Every Sprint contract states "Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred and to deny, terminate, modify, or suspend service if usage exceeds 5GB per month in total or 300MB/month while off-network roaming. Check your subscriber agreement rights on Sprint.com."

CW

What is the source of your quote? You have misquoted the terms of service.

WarChild 02-18-2010 07:38 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jigwashere (Post 1575221)
Why are you being abusive? What have I done to offend you so deeply? That was my first post in this thread, and I don't see anything in my post that should cause such a reaction.

I read multiple quotes, but people were not providing their source. I was able to find the source for the post above regarding Mobile Broadband, but I can find no source for the statement that data access on my phone is limited to 5GB. I think you need to read more carefully. My statement is that data access on my phone is not capped. I do understand that Sprint has the right to manage their network to prevent the abuses that would impact their customer service level agreements (implied or stated), but Sprint says nothing about capping data access on my phone. The 5GB limit relates to data cards and using your phone as a modem. That does not limit streaming 10GB of video to my phone: it limits streaming 10GB of video to my laptop through my phone.

I have never seen a single post in any online forum, nor have I seen a single news report where someone said they were charged or denied service for using more than 5GB of data on their phone. Can you show me any examples? I don't mean that as a challenge -- I really would like to see explicit examples. So far, all I'm hearing is people freaking out without providing any facts. I have found multiple posts where users say they regularly exceed 5GB. The only examples of extra charges or denials of service relate to exceeding the stated 5GB limit while tethering or using a data card.

I apologise if your feelings were hurt. If you would read the whole tread it clearly states that 1)there is no cap 2)every one knows Sprint hasnet ever enforced any "cap" 3) We (Sprint) reserve the right to deny or terminate service without notice for any misuse or any use that adversely affects network performance. that has nothing to do with PAM or modems. So after READING your own post you should understand that Sprint does in fact imply a "cap" of some sort which we all know hasnt been enforced. How many more times do you need to be told?



CW

WarChild 02-18-2010 07:41 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jigwashere (Post 1575248)
What is the source of your quote? You have misquoted the terms of service.

I took them directly from my TOS (hard copy) and also from YOUR post (worded differently) which has recently been changed after consulting Sprint but as of when I read it had not been. You should quit while your ahead.

Further more since you like links former proof it existed is HERE. Word for word i might add.




CW

John1 02-18-2010 07:47 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1575423)
I apologise if your feelings were hurt. If you would read the whole tread it clearly states that 1)there is no cap 2)every one knows Sprint hasnet ever enforced any "cap" 3) We (Sprint) reserve the right to deny or terminate service without notice for any misuse or any use that adversely affects network performance. that has nothing to do with PAM or modems. So after READING your own post you should understand that Sprint does in fact imply a "cap" of some sort which we all know hasnt been enforced. How many more times do you need to be told?



CW

I guess he didnt find it funny...lol you should just give up he isnt going to learn. What is this like the 50th time you have said it.

Jersey 02-18-2010 07:49 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajent (Post 1568254)
I have seen some reports on sprint "capping" the internet after 5G of usage. Does this not apply on a tp2 or any WM phone for that matter, running wm wifi-router?

I'm using it on energyrom and have "6824550KB" of usage so far without any limitations. Downloads still going at 200-300 KBps with flashget.
:headbang:

Does the cap completly stop internet or just drop the speed? A few minutes ago it was stuck at 10-20kpbs.

They do NOT charge you for data unless you are on an older plan that does not include unlimited data.

WarChild 02-18-2010 07:57 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey (Post 1575451)
They do NOT charge you for data unless you are on an older plan that does not include unlimited data.

the debate wasn't necessarily about being charged as much as there being a cap but you are correct as far as I know. I believe tha tif they have a problem with the amout of data you are using the can cancle or suspend your service. Thats what I got from it anyways. So NO they do not charge you.



CW

jigwashere 02-18-2010 08:14 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1575423)
I apologise if your feelings were hurt. If you would read the whole tread it clearly states that 1)there is no cap 2)every one knows Sprint hasnet ever enforced any "cap" 3) We (Sprint) reserve the right to deny or terminate service without notice for any misuse or any use that adversely affects network performance. that has nothing to do with PAM or modems. So after READING your own post you should understand that Sprint does in fact imply a "cap" of some sort which we all know hasnt been enforced. How many more times do you need to be told?



CW

My feelings aren't hurt, I'm just surprised by the tone you've taken with me. My post, #53, doesn't seem to contradict what you just said. What makes you think I don't get this?

Your first post in this thread pointed out that you use a lot of data each month and haven't gotten charged, which gives credibility to the fact that there's no cap. A few others chimed with with similar experiences. The problem I attempted to address was that people were posting about charges and being denied service without any evidence that this exists. I tried to contribute by adding a link to Sprint's terms and conditions. I was simply asking you to help by providing a link to the quote you gave. Did I hurt your feelings?

I've been a Sprint SERO customer for about 2-1/2 years. I'm on the $30/month plan and use Google Voice along with Pick 5. I basically have unlimited voice, text, and data service. I tether my netbook to my TP2 using USB cable, which doesn't require installation of any additional software or tweaking of settings to avoid being caught tethering. My data usage is not very high, so I can't give firsthand experience that there's not cap, but I'm a believer. I can say that I haven't gotten charged for tethering, but remember that I connect via USB cable and not WiFi or BT.

WarChild 02-18-2010 08:23 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
we are in agreement about no charges But Sprint does imply a, lets say, limited unlimited data usage in their TOS. We are also in agreement that no one has ever heard of Sprint enforcing this. I'm an a$$ so your just gonna have to ignore me. (that was an apology) Im on the Unlimited plan and have been with Sprint for over 11 years.


CW

Ikonic 02-18-2010 09:08 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
i used about 1,744,034 last month i only use my phone as internet at my job twice a week but all night. i refrain from downloading files as not to go over just in case. just so if i do its not an every single time scenario just in case but i wouldnt think sprint would care. they're really laid back about stuff like that as long as your paying your bill and not stealing thousands of dollars of revenue from them

duck9191 02-18-2010 10:15 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
phone caps where never really enforced, unless obvious abuse was common as everyone has found out. i wonder when they changed the verbiage in the TOS, all the ones at our store still have the cap listed.

data cards do get charged, i had a customer who was wondering why he had a $600 data overage. he said that he only checked his email and what not with it, but his roommate watched alot of porn, i told him your roommate better find a new hobby lol.

pesok 02-18-2010 10:46 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
very easy - there is a 5gb cap(no matter which "unlimited" plan u use on Sprint-read contract) but Sprint rarely enforces it, looks like the enforcement done by hand and on user to user basis. Enough discussion

gTen 02-19-2010 03:46 AM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1574719)
I can quote "Learn how to read" and there is even a link there for ya. And there WAS a cap but you wouldn't know about that because again you don't read. Have a good day.

Oh and by the way look at this part.
Data: Services are not available with all Sprint phones. Usage is calculated on a per kilobyte basis and is rounded up to the next whole kilobyte. Rounding occurs at the end of each session or each clock hour and, at which time we deduct accumulated usage from your plan, or assess overage or casual usage charges. You are responsible for all data activity from and to your device, regardless of who initiates the activity. Estimates of data usage will vary from actual use. Your invoice will not separately identify the number of kilobytes attributable to your use of specific sites, sessions or services used. Premium content (games, ringers, songs, etc.) priced separately. Services are not available for use in connection with server devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitutes for private lines or frame relay connections. Except with Phone-as-Modem plans, you may not use a phone (including a Bluetooth phone) as a modem in connection with a computer, PDA, or similar device. We reserve the right to deny or terminate service without notice for any misuse or any use that adversely affects network performance. Availability of downloadable or streaming content is subject to change, including but not limited to television channels and radio stations. If user is not subscribed to a data included plan or add-on, pay-as-you go charges are incurred when using data applications and services.


And just in case you wanna run it under PAM
Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB.



CW


I don't think the TOS that you showed is valid for this argument and here is why.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1574719)
We reserve the right to deny or terminate service without notice for any misuse or any use that adversely affects network performance.

Using up over 5gb will not affect the network performance in any way nether does it account for misuse.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandWheeler (Post 1574719)
Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB.

It does not fall under PAM either because PAM means you are using their Phone-As-Modem service which is extra cost.

Quote:

you may not use a phone (including a Bluetooth phone) as a modem in connection with a computer, PDA, or similar device.
This on the other hand means you can't use your phone as a modem all together cap or not.


So from this if you were to download over 5gb on your cellphone directly, you would in no way violate the ToS.

Also to note you may theoretically avoid the "as modem" if you use wifi instead of usb or bluetooth...But then again it kinda contradicts itself saying it cant use a pda or similar device as a modem which would include itself >.> lol

hunterintusttin 03-24-2010 02:27 AM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
I don't know any current or past Sprint customer that has gotten into trouble for using more than 5GB data. Again, I am about 6 days into my new circle and passed 8GB on one line already without tethering. I travel a lot and I hardwired my TP to the car stereo for the audio and my slingbox provides me with the rest. My trips are from San Diego to Las Vegas and back to the OC twice a week and if you know the network gaps you can have a good trip (I loose data only twice during the trip - no bad for a 400 mile trip).

Sprint has a good network but a bad reputation which is about to change as people see that you can save money.

I also own a T-Mobile and AT&T phone and I can tell you that I rather go down to 1x than use Edge. Most of the audio feeds (Pandora or di.fm) need at least 1x.

WarChild 03-24-2010 11:12 AM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Kinda beating a dead horse here arnt we. I thought this issue had already been resolved.



CW

cddmh 03-24-2010 12:57 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Data Cards = 5 Gig cap. Unlimited Service on Phone or PDA = NO CAP. Why we arguing?

WarChild 03-24-2010 01:00 PM

Re: sprint 5g cap on TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cddmh (Post 1656210)
Data Cards = 5 Gig cap. Unlimited Service on Phone or PDA = NO CAP. Why we arguing?

thats a good question.


CW


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