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Dragon2 01-13-2010 09:36 PM

does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
i really didnt know where to put this thread so mods move if needed.....

Does a faster Processor in a phone mean a faster browser??? If 2 phones had the same Browser but 1 phone had a 528 mhz annd the other had lets say a snapdragon, Would the snapdragons speeds be better since it has a faster processor???????

QMeli907 01-13-2010 09:40 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Quite simply...yes.

BlackDynamite 01-13-2010 09:43 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1486430)
i really didnt know where to put this thread so mods move if needed.....

Does a faster Processor in a phone mean a faster browser??? If 2 phones had the same Browser but 1 phone had a 528 mhz annd the other had lets say a snapdragon, Would the snapdragons speeds be better since it has a faster processor???????

Yes, it absolutely means you would get faster speeds.

The processor on the phone is a bottleneck right now. That's why you get faster speeds on a data card than on a phone. And even on a phone, you get faster speeds when tethered than you do on the phone itself.

Dragon2 01-13-2010 09:48 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QMeli907 (Post 1486454)
Quite simply...yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg (Post 1486465)
Yes, it absolutely means you would get faster speeds.

The processor on the phone is a bottleneck right now. That's why you get faster speeds on a data card than on a phone. And even on a phone, you get faster speeds when tethered than you do on the phone itself.

Thats what I thought, Ive just recently been told otherwise and couldnt figure out why...... Thanks

p-slim 01-13-2010 09:50 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
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Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1486493)
Thats what I thought, Ive just recently been told otherwise and couldnt figure out why...... Thanks

it will also help with the rendering of the page. For example when the website loads and you flick the screen down, sometimes you get those squared boxes while the rest of the page loads, with a faster processor those loading times are significantly cut.

forcelite 01-13-2010 10:05 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Yes it absolutely will be faster.

Like a previous poster indicated computers speed depends on all the compoennts but almost always one will be the "bottleneck" this could be the ram, processor connection speed, video card for graphic intense programs, etc.

Cell phones have good 3G speed, and with 4G even more so, The hardware including the processor, memory, and chipsetare the most dated. So the new Nexus will have a better browing experience.

Force

imnuts 01-13-2010 10:11 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
For the most part yes, but you also have to look at desktop processors, faster clock speeds don't always equal faster systems. Clock speeds haven't gone up for a while really and actually went down at one point, but the processors themselves were faster because they were more efficient at doing things and could do more per cycle than the old processors. I'm guessing the same applies to mobile processors as well.

Okeif_ObD 01-13-2010 10:35 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
I'm with Imnuts. Just think, soon phones will be caring dual, quad, etc. processors. Then it will become even harder to determine the bottleneck.

But, with the two examples you listed then the snapdragon would make a world of difference--provided the RAM available is the same.

Aleki 01-13-2010 10:47 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Yep! I was one of the lucky ones that was able to overclock my TP to 800mhz for a good while and everything ran pretty damn quick. I barely ran into the checkered background in opera. Unfortunately, the phone was over-roided and crashed two days later from the overheating :D

QMeli907 01-14-2010 01:15 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
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Originally Posted by Aleki (Post 1486687)
Yep! I was one of the lucky ones that was able to overclock my TP to 800mhz for a good while and everything ran pretty damn quick. I barely ran into the checkered background in opera. Unfortunately, the phone was over-roided and crashed two days later from the overheating :D

Just out of curiosity....how was this achieved?

Aleki 01-14-2010 01:17 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
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Originally Posted by QMeli907 (Post 1487089)
Just out of curiosity....how was this achieved?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...ight=overclock

supdawg 01-14-2010 01:48 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
It will render faster, but the download speeds will be limited to your connection.

QMeli907 01-14-2010 02:02 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
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Originally Posted by Aleki (Post 1487095)

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the link :thumbleft:

imtjnotu 01-14-2010 02:08 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QMeli907 (Post 1487089)
Just out of curiosity....how was this achieved?

samething i wanna kno...i was always under the impression the MSM7201A was not able to OC

LGCubana 01-14-2010 08:10 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
The downside to a faster cpu can be a quicker battery drain. i.e. Touch 3rd gen vs. 2nd gen

jmorton10 01-14-2010 08:39 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
I have done A/B comparisons with browsing speeds with my TP2 & my 2nd gen ipod touch. The ipod/iphone have faster processors & it is readily apparent when opening browsers etc.

If I need to do a google search, I can bring up google in the safari browser & complete a search while the TP2 is still struggling to open opera.

~John

JulezCesarFYC 01-14-2010 09:02 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
i agree with the above post

jmorton10 01-14-2010 09:16 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
It really annoyed me over Christmas as my Sisters son was at my house visiting & he has an iphone.

There where a couple times we both reached for our phones to do Google searches at the same time during a conversation. I gave up finally as he was beating me so badly it was embarrassing.......

~John

Dragon2 01-14-2010 10:27 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1487445)
I have done A/B comparisons with browsing speeds with my TP2 & my 2nd gen ipod touch. The ipod/iphone have faster processors & it is readily apparent when opening browsers etc.

If I need to do a google search, I can bring up google in the safari browser & complete a search while the TP2 is still struggling to open opera.

~John

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1487445)
I have done A/B comparisons with browsing speeds with my TP2 & my 2nd gen ipod touch. The ipod/iphone have faster processors & it is readily apparent when opening browsers etc.

If I need to do a google search, I can bring up google in the safari browser & complete a search while the TP2 is still struggling to open opera.

~John

the iphone has a 600 mhz processor i believe right???? or 6 something, and the tp2 has 528... Now if its that much faster with that little diff in processor, how come the 1ghz snapdragon dont blow the doors off the iphones internet speeds and its almost 400 mhz faster????????

The youtube vids show them pretty equal, and the iphone still loads and loads google instantly vs hd2s like 3 sec.......????????????

The more and more research I do the more I find it doesnt do much in browser speeds, nothing really hard evidence but stuff like this...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_p...ownload_speeds

jmorton10 01-14-2010 10:51 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
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Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1487576)
the iphone has a 600 mhz processor i believe right???? or 6 something, and the tp2 has 528...

I'm really not sure how fast the iphone processor is (& maybe that's not what is making the difference anyway) but I know if I have my ipod touch available & I need to do a fast google search that is what I grab, not the TP2.

Maybe the difference is all in the safari browser (which I love) & the super responsive screen helps too but things like a simple google search can be done almost instantly in the ipod & seem rather tedious on the TP2.

There are certainly things I don't like about safari so it's not all good (it doesn't word wrap, doesn't support flash & won't DL anything) but it is definitely the speed king (& I love how the screen zooms).

~John

MikeElGiga23 01-14-2010 11:45 AM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
plus you cant compare two different CPU's just by their clock speed. You are comparing a ARM Cortex A8 with Qualcomm and just because it has similar clock speed, the Cortex A8 can out perform the Qualcomm in every way since its more powerful

Why do you thing that the Nexus One is only "slightly" faster than the Droid while being 400mhz faster? (450mhz if you count the underclock of the Droid) And the HD2 is yet to destroy the iPhone 3GS?

There is more to CPU's than just mhz

clockcycle 01-14-2010 12:03 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
It's why they announced the dual core 1.5 qualcomm cpu, but take in mind faster cpu means more power consumption, less battery life and more heat..

But compare AMD to Intel doesn't mean MHz is always faster... i.e. V8 Mustang vs Boxer 4Turbo Impreza

Aleki 01-14-2010 12:29 PM

Re: does a faster processor mean faster speeds??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clockcycle (Post 1487734)
It's why they announced the dual core 1.5 qualcomm cpu, but take in mind faster cpu means more power consumption, less battery life and more heat..

But compare AMD to Intel doesn't mean MHz is always faster... i.e. V8 Mustang vs Boxer 4Turbo Impreza

Not always. Chip size and voltage have a significant impact on battery life. One case would be comparing a Pentium 4 to one of the new core2quads. You have something that is running four cores, but literally is one half to a third the die size of the P4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1487478)
It really annoyed me over Christmas as my Sisters son was at my house visiting & he has an iphone.

There where a couple times we both reached for our phones to do Google searches at the same time during a conversation. I gave up finally as he was beating me so badly it was embarrassing.......

~John

The one thing I like about the Iphone is how well they integrated the hardware. Games run better, surfing the web is more fun and seems less like a task. This is why I'm looking foward to WM7, where microsoft is actually going to make running standards for their new platform.

That said, where I live, my phone is faster than the Iphones at retrieving content. Although, thats because ATT has shoddy 3G network that bounces people on EDGE

BTW: Was your sister's son cheating, and using a wifi connection? That makes a pretty big difference ;)


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