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Alpha_Male06 01-12-2010 04:58 PM

Verizon 6.5 Upgrade Tweaks?
 
I recently upgraded my VZW TP2 to the official WM 6.5. And my phone is running at 72% Program Usage at start up & programs don't end when I 'x-out' of them. Is there a clean up/cab to to solve this problem. I tried using the clean up cab provided by GoodThing2Life when I had WM 6.1 and it worked great. I tried it on my upgraded 6.5 and it doesn't work. Can anybody help?

strra 01-12-2010 05:10 PM

Re: Verizon 6.5 Upgrade Tweaks?
 
try this cab from this thread

drewcam888 01-12-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strra (Post 1482476)

That cab is only for 6.1. Did you even read that he said he tried that cab?
You need the disable push internet cab. Also I suggest you clean up the startup folder under windows.

Alpha_Male06 01-12-2010 05:17 PM

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thanks, but I have that cab & used it. It doesn't work on WM 6.5

Alpha_Male06 01-12-2010 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drewcam888 (Post 1482487)
That cab is only for 6.1. Did you even read that he said he tried that cab?
You need the disable push internet cab. Also I suggest you clean up the startup folder under windows.


Thanks. You know where I can get a no push internet cab?

drewcam888 01-12-2010 05:23 PM

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Search the forum it is in some thread

strra 01-12-2010 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drewcam888 (Post 1482487)
That cab is only for 6.1. Did you even read that he said he tried that cab?
You need the disable push internet cab. Also I suggest you clean up the startup folder under windows.

guess i missed it. *shrug*
anyway, here's the cab:

exmeaguy 01-13-2010 06:36 PM

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There's another CAB that removes something else along with the push internet but I cannot think of it at the moment. Anyone have this "other" removal for Sense 2.1?

mikeszekely 01-13-2010 08:41 PM

Re: Verizon 6.5 Upgrade Tweaks?
 
I'm having the same troubles as the OP. I installed the no push cab and tried the same registry tweaks with 6.1. Now the phone starts with 46% usage, but the number takes off whenever Opera is opened and it doesn't go back down.

SecretAgentMan 01-13-2010 08:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by exmeaguy (Post 1485829)
There's another CAB that removes something else along with the push internet but I cannot think of it at the moment. Anyone have this "other" removal for Sense 2.1?

I think that you're referring to the Dynamic Resource Proxy tweak which changes the ShareMemSize value in the registry to 0. My experience, noted by others as well, is that the default value keeps getting re-set, essentially making this tweak useless, for now. Some have suggested that the CM Guardian service is putting this back, but disabling it apparently doesn't have any effect on the re-setting.

SecretAgentMan 01-13-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeszekely (Post 1486250)
I'm having the same troubles as the OP. I installed the no push cab and tried the same registry tweaks with 6.1. Now the phone starts with 46% usage, but the number takes off whenever Opera is opened and it doesn't go back down.

Try THIS THREAD, which let's Opera show in the task manager, where you can close it.

rpodos 01-13-2010 10:06 PM

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I had been waiting for an official VZW 6.5 before flashing custom... **very unhappy** with it, and will now be going custom.

-Richard

milesnapue 01-13-2010 10:29 PM

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Are you having problems with the phone freezing. With apps not starting up? Or is it you just don't like to see a big number? The proxy puts basic app data into memory to make applications and tasks faster to start up.

If you ARE having memory related issues I would suggest going to www.xda-developers.com and searching their threads for cleanRam version 1.9.

mikeszekely 01-14-2010 02:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan (Post 1486282)
Try THIS THREAD, which let's Opera show in the task manager, where you can close it.

Thanks, but those are the registry tweaks I was talking about that I already did. And like I said, they worked beautifully in 6.1, not so much in 6.5.

Quote:

Originally Posted by milesnapue (Post 1486627)
Are you having problems with the phone freezing. With apps not starting up? Or is it you just don't like to see a big number? The proxy puts basic app data into memory to make applications and tasks faster to start up.

If you ARE having memory related issues I would suggest going to www.xda-developers.com and searching their threads for cleanRam version 1.9.

A little from column A, a little from column B. I'd prefer the number to stay below 60% when I'm not running any apps (as I mentioned, it begins after a soft reset at around 46%). When it hits the mid 70's it starts to get sluggish, and when it goes above 80 then I start to have problems with apps not starting.

Thanks for the tip about cleanRam. I'm downloading it now.

drewcam888 01-14-2010 09:52 AM

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Clean ram can only do so much. We really need to find a permanent way to disable the resproxy.

brent372 01-14-2010 11:04 AM

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Both of these (No Push Internet and Proxy Hack) work fine on my VZW 6.5 TP2.
I run about 50%

mikeszekely 01-14-2010 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drewcam888 (Post 1487522)
Clean ram can only do so much. We really need to find a permanent way to disable the resproxy.

So I'm noticing. I used it on level 2, and I dropped from 66% in use to 60% in use. Since then, all I've done is update the weather, and I just checked it. It's back up to 66%.

SecretAgentMan 01-14-2010 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brent372 (Post 1487637)
Both of these (No Push Internet and Proxy Hack) work fine on my VZW 6.5 TP2.
I run about 50%

Brent, just curious to see if you have gone back and checked the proxy hack value to see if it's still set to zero. A lot of people have found the default value gets re-written. If yours is sticking to "0", did you do anything to get it to stick?

Thanks!

brent372 01-14-2010 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan (Post 1488722)
Brent, just curious to see if you have gone back and checked the proxy hack value to see if it's still set to zero. A lot of people have found the default value gets re-written. If yours is sticking to "0", did you do anything to get it to stick?

Thanks!

Er... what is the reg path and I will be more than happy to check and report my results.

I have not done anything special. All I know is if I reboot the phone and give it a good 3-4 minutes to make sure the weather is downloading, etc... then check my usage I usually at 53%

I can live with that.. better that 70 or 80 something.

Alpha_Male06 01-14-2010 06:18 PM

Re: Verizon 6.5 Upgrade Tweaks?
 
another issue I'm having is when ever I connect to my computer and sync, the data connection automatically turns on. any solutions?

msh441 01-14-2010 06:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brent372 (Post 1488820)
er... What is the reg path and i will be more than happy to check and report my results.

hklm>software>htc>resproxy

ShareMemSize=????x???? (????)

If the value is 0x20000 (131072) then Dynamic Resourse Proxy didn't really do anything for you. You might as well uninstall it from your programs list.

As for those concerned with memory and what percentage your running at... I wouldn't. If things are running quick and smooth... and if you don't have trouble starting programs or keeping them running, who cares.

I'm using MemMaid to optimize for speed over memory, and I put along all day (normal usage) between about 55-70% with push internet, weather and stocks set to manual update only. E-mail on three accounts recieveing every hour. Not a big deal IMO.

Memory allocation is the one of the first thing I've come to appreciate about 6.5. It seems to do a decent job running heavy load programs that would usually caused issues for me when using 6.1. Need For Speed Ungerground is a good example.

If you really want to know/control what's running (services, programs, whatever), look for FDC Soft's Task Manager.

SecretAgentMan 01-14-2010 08:00 PM

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Edit: Oops, missed MSH's post

Quote:

Originally Posted by brent372 (Post 1488820)
Er... what is the reg path and I will be more than happy to check and report my results.

The proxy hack is
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy\ShareMemSize

The cab set's it to "0", but on mine the OS re-writes it to the default 131072.

I agree with you. With just the No Push Internet Hack, I'm around 55% and happy with that.

ac0x 03-10-2010 01:38 PM

Re: Verizon 6.5 Upgrade Tweaks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan (Post 1486275)
I think that you're referring to the Dynamic Resource Proxy tweak which changes the ShareMemSize value in the registry to 0. My experience, noted by others as well, is that the default value keeps getting re-set, essentially making this tweak useless, for now. Some have suggested that the CM Guardian service is putting this back, but disabling it apparently doesn't have any effect on the re-setting.

I see that too. But I think something else is going on....

First, on my Verizon 6.5 Stock ROM, my memory use seems to be down. Remember, the fix isn't supposed to reduce memory usage imediately on soft reset, but KEEP it down. I've brought up some web pages, brought up Monopoly, and usually at this point my memory free is around 50MB. As of right now it's still above 60. I'll play some more and see what happens.

But I have some other reasons to think something else is going on...

--- 131072 bytes (or even 10x that much) is chicken s&%t as far as memory goes. If thats all this fix saved, it wouldn't be worth it for anyone. I'm suspecting that when ShareMemSize is zeroed it causes something else to NOT start, and the following things I see makes me think that even more...

-- The ShareMemSizeInUse key under the same Registry branch is 0 and seems to stay 0. Previously that did populate with numbers

-- ShareMemSizeFree is at it's initial FFF00000h and isn't changing, and it did for sure before (BTW that number is over 4GB, so I'm suspecting it's set to a number as large as possible to mean "use as much memory as you want")

I'm going to let this run some more and see what happens

Rhodium500 03-10-2010 01:47 PM

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To completely disable resproxy, unzip then copy the following file to windows directory. Do a soft reset and you then can alter all the resproxy registry values and soft reset again.

ac0x 03-10-2010 06:20 PM

Re: Verizon 6.5 Upgrade Tweaks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ac0x (Post 1620315)
I see that too. But I think something else is going on....

First, on my Verizon 6.5 Stock ROM, my memory use seems to be down. Remember, the fix isn't supposed to reduce memory usage imediately on soft reset, but KEEP it down. I've brought up some web pages, brought up Monopoly, and usually at this point my memory free is around 50MB. As of right now it's still above 60. I'll play some more and see what happens.

But I have some other reasons to think something else is going on...

--- 131072 bytes (or even 10x that much) is chicken s&%t as far as memory goes. If thats all this fix saved, it wouldn't be worth it for anyone. I'm suspecting that when ShareMemSize is zeroed it causes something else to NOT start, and the following things I see makes me think that even more...

-- The ShareMemSizeInUse key under the same Registry branch is 0 and seems to stay 0. Previously that did populate with numbers

-- ShareMemSizeFree is at it's initial FFF00000h and isn't changing, and it did for sure before (BTW that number is over 4GB, so I'm suspecting it's set to a number as large as possible to mean "use as much memory as you want")

I'm going to let this run some more and see what happens

Well, looks like this tweak really DOESNT work. After some hours of use I'm below 50MB and there are numbers populated in both ShareMemSizeFree and ShareMemSizeInUse. Oh well

bones20 04-15-2010 12:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhodium500 (Post 1620335)
To completely disable resproxy, unzip then copy the following file to windows directory. Do a soft reset and you then can alter all the resproxy registry values and soft reset again.

How do you replace a dll file? tx.


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