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*king* 01-16-2010 06:22 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by z1adonis (Post 1491458)
It is not necessarily the phone itself that makes me dislike it. It is the manufacturer...HTC. In today's day and age, technology is advancing very rapidly. I am going to go back just a little bit...starting with the 6700/Apache I believe. My concern is not primarily what software we have or don't have although that matters also. My concern is that if you notice the boxes the phones have come in have gotten smaller like the amount of actually product we received with our phones. The one thing that does not change much at all is the price.

Now with the 6700, the accessories that we received with our phones were as follows:

charger
desktop charger
mini usb cable
believe it came with a memory card
case
Infrared
I think it came with headphones

Now the Winmo 5 was not the best and that is not my point here. The phone was about $549 outright.

The 6800/Mogul came with everything that 6700 came with except the desktop charger.

The Touch pro came with everything except the desktop charger and they took away the real dpad and the Infrared.

The TP2 came with everything except, the desktop charger, dpad, Infrared, camera flash, headphones and low and behold the case.

Now the software has had improvements and disappointments in each. The on thing that has not changed much at all is the price. The TP2 is $599 outright. Now I could really be mad if I acutally paid for all of these phones. The only phone that I have paid for somewhat was the 6700. Sprint has given me all the others brand new under warranty. No money out of my pocket. I just wanted you guys to notice what I notice each time Sprint has sent me a newer phone in a samller box. HTC is the ultimate problem.
I can agree on some points, a phone this expensive should atleast come with a case....but infrared ? Aside from the 6700, 6800, and 700wx i cant think of any other phones that use infrared.

kabuk1 01-16-2010 07:51 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I'd love an IR port, I miss the remote control app I used to have on my Treo :(

insomniac 01-16-2010 08:15 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by z1adonis (Post 1491458)
It is not necessarily the phone itself that makes me dislike it. It is the manufacturer...HTC. In today's day and age, technology is advancing very rapidly. I am going to go back just a little bit...starting with the 6700/Apache I believe. My concern is not primarily what software we have or don't have although that matters also. My concern is that if you notice the boxes the phones have come in have gotten smaller like the amount of actually product we received with our phones. The one thing that does not change much at all is the price.

Now with the 6700, the accessories that we received with our phones were as follows:

charger
desktop charger
mini usb cable
believe it came with a memory card
case
Infrared
I think it came with headphones

Now the Winmo 5 was not the best and that is not my point here. The phone was about $549 outright.

The 6800/Mogul came with everything that 6700 came with except the desktop charger.

The Touch pro came with everything except the desktop charger and they took away the real dpad and the Infrared.

The TP2 came with everything except, the desktop charger, dpad, Infrared, camera flash, headphones and low and behold the case.

Now the software has had improvements and disappointments in each. The on thing that has not changed much at all is the price. The TP2 is $599 outright. Now I could really be mad if I acutally paid for all of these phones. The only phone that I have paid for somewhat was the 6700. Sprint has given me all the others brand new under warranty. No money out of my pocket. I just wanted you guys to notice what I notice each time Sprint has sent me a newer phone in a samller box. HTC is the ultimate problem.
We probably recieve less because the hardware has upped since those days, processor (though the one in 6600 was faster), ram, sensors, everything which costs more to manufature, plus the way qualomm does itKs fees. But a case and headset in the least and not a crappy one, i put my best friend on my account with another line on a dunbphone that does music and it came with some great sounding headphones.

What I hate about it is that it has no flash lens, and tomorrow i reieve the 4th replaement due to way too many stuck pixels and glaring light on th botoom and right side on every model I have had, if the next was ontinues this I will have them trade it for something else, it seems almost as if the the sreen is not completely flush. Plus the c key has to be pressed very hard to work on this last model, it is an HTC thing, they need to step up the manufacturing of harware a bit, the only I model I never took bak was the 6600, that was in year 2003.

buggydude1835 01-16-2010 08:18 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I miss my camera flash.
No FM radio
Missing Dpad

blowy666 01-16-2010 09:35 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
My model has a fm radio ;)

birddseedd 01-16-2010 09:45 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
The battery doesent last very long. having the screen on with gps while playing pandora and making calls will kill the battery.

suposevly the hd2 has a 1ghz proc and 8-12 hrs talk time. thats hard to beileve.

birddseedd 01-16-2010 09:46 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
oh, and its wwwaaayyyyy too laggy. indygrooves rom helps with that though.

blowy666 01-16-2010 09:50 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by z1adonis (Post 1491458)
It is not necessarily the phone itself that makes me dislike it. It is the manufacturer...HTC. In today's day and age, technology is advancing very rapidly. I am going to go back just a little bit...starting with the 6700/Apache I believe. My concern is not primarily what software we have or don't have although that matters also. My concern is that if you notice the boxes the phones have come in have gotten smaller like the amount of actually product we received with our phones. The one thing that does not change much at all is the price.

Now with the 6700, the accessories that we received with our phones were as follows:

charger
desktop charger
mini usb cable
believe it came with a memory card
case
Infrared
I think it came with headphones

Now the Winmo 5 was not the best and that is not my point here. The phone was about $549 outright.

The 6800/Mogul came with everything that 6700 came with except the desktop charger.

The Touch pro came with everything except the desktop charger and they took away the real dpad and the Infrared.

The TP2 came with everything except, the desktop charger, dpad, Infrared, camera flash, headphones and low and behold the case.

Now the software has had improvements and disappointments in each. The on thing that has not changed much at all is the price. The TP2 is $599 outright. Now I could really be mad if I acutally paid for all of these phones. The only phone that I have paid for somewhat was the 6700. Sprint has given me all the others brand new under warranty. No money out of my pocket. I just wanted you guys to notice what I notice each time Sprint has sent me a newer phone in a samller box. HTC is the ultimate problem.

Well, thats really interesting.
I bought my TP2 in Germany, and I got headset and a nice leather case in the package...

rorytmeadows 01-16-2010 04:24 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kabuk1 (Post 1493405)
I'd love an IR port, I miss the remote control app I used to have on my Treo :(
I agree with that! I know IR and the stylus are "old" but I love them both!

rorytmeadows 01-16-2010 04:25 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blowy666 (Post 1493464)
My model has a fm radio ;)
Mine, too! Too bad terrestrial radio blows. Go Sirius!

SDS 01-16-2010 04:57 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I like it pretty well. I miss the D-pad from my Touch though. The biggest annoyance is the web browsing.....the one-column setting on the Touch made web browsing easy. Is there a tweak for this that I haven't found yet?

brownhornet 01-16-2010 05:05 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Let me add the 1x thing too. I was using my phone for GPS and missed two turns because the phone kept going to 1X and wasnt downloading the data fast enough.

dpmeador 01-21-2010 01:51 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brownhornet (Post 1494252)
Let me add the 1x thing too. I was using my phone for GPS and missed two turns because the phone kept going to 1X and wasnt downloading the data fast enough.
Yes! My Treo 800 and Treo Pro never had a problem with slipping out of EVDO, however the TP2 won't stay in EVDO..

Adrianh85 01-21-2010 02:06 AM
Wirelessly posted (AdrianH85(TP2): Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)

no flash, crappy camera, multi touch, hardware kb sqeaks, no american 3g, no control button, no mass on board flash memory!

drew2000 01-21-2010 11:07 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I hate how slow it is to load the internet from a cold start..........seems to take far to long. That is about the only thing I would complain about after modding it.

zimberto 01-22-2010 12:05 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I don't like my TP2 at all. After owning an iPhone for a while and then going to Sprint for the much cheaper service, the TP2 seems like 10 years behind. I wish Sprint would release the Diamond 2 so I could offload some of the weight. That would help.

Atomic2Mod 01-22-2010 01:27 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
the only thing I don't like is that I don't have a "drive to" option anymore in my contacts. Only "map it" and it opens Bing instead of Sprint Navigation.

CnDm111 01-22-2010 01:36 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
this thread is pointless. i love my $600 phone. the little things that come with the territory of having such i high end phone are worth it. growing with wm from the 6700 to the tp2 is awesome. quite crying and get over it or get a dif phone.

thatgirllisa 01-22-2010 01:51 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
i hate that I can not find a free download for GPS Navigation and the Camera is horrible. This is a $500+ phone and they say the camera is 3.2 megapixal. My goodness. I miss my blackberry camera with flash.

jeff31021 01-22-2010 02:46 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jalupinja (Post 1439715)
There is no reason this shouldn't work on any WinMo 6.x device. I have not tried it yet...
I have a good reason. The hd2 has a capacitive touch screen, the touch pro 2 is resistive. Multi touch isn't compatible with resistive touch screens.

InvincibleLiving 01-22-2010 03:18 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
After a week now with my tp2 I've got FAR more praise for it than criticism but these things irk me:

I do miss the dpad from the diamond... the zoom bar is useless to me.

auto-complete when using the physical kb seemingly works when it wants to and I can't figure out the 'magic' setup to keep it on AT ALL TIMES

No access to the soft reset button... i want to mod it but not until i know i can get it PERFECT on the first try. I'd only be more pissed if I attempted and messed up the case without the desired end result lol

lack of flash for camera

and that's about it for now... i've adjusted to most other things about it and can still easily say it's the best made device I've ever owned HANDS DOWN and I'm now 4th generation HTC: apache>mogul>diamond>tp2

KaliKilla 01-22-2010 03:56 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I hate my TP2 because of the endless customization possibilities. I continue to tweek on this damn phone as if I were on the most potent CRACK on the market. I recently did the Android download to the SD Card. I need some more CRACK.

CnDm111 01-22-2010 05:04 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KaliKilla (Post 1508461)
I hate my TP2 because of the endless customization possibilities. I continue to tweek on this damn phone as if I were on the most potent CRACK on the market. I recently did the Android download to the SD Card. I need some more CRACK.
haha i agree with this hate

Deimoss 01-22-2010 05:47 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I hate that this thing does not come with a Capacitive touch screen from the get go. Everything else is fine but they should have known that carrying over the resistive technology was a loosing battle.

Finally now they have an official HTC capacitive stylus. Best of both worlds!

dodo2244 01-22-2010 05:57 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
The TP2 is my first WinMo device. I hate that when I'm browsing contacts, I can't just call the current one simply by hitting the dial key. Doing so takes me back to call history :-(( Also not being able to sort my music genres by folder and having a separate playlist for each folder. Otherwise this fon rocks!

Adrianh85 01-22-2010 08:05 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deimoss (Post 1508515)
I hate that this thing does not come with a Capacitive touch screen from the get go. Everything else is fine but they should have known that carrying over the resistive technology was a loosing battle.

Finally now they have an official HTC capacitive stylus. Best of both worlds!
im glad its not capactive!! for one they are bigger battery hogs than what we have, not as accurate, and i use my nail to control my phone!! there is muti touch for our phones but its not stable yet!!

blowy666 01-22-2010 09:16 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodo2244 (Post 1508522)
The TP2 is my first WinMo device. I hate that when I'm browsing contacts, I can't just call the current one simply by hitting the dial key. Doing so takes me back to call history :-(( Also not being able to sort my music genres by folder and having a separate playlist for each folder. Otherwise this fon rocks!

Hey, try out "PocketPlayer"!
It gives you a menu entry that calls "Play folder"...!

robj19 01-22-2010 09:29 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mulhiny (Post 1440242)
The only thing I hate on this phone is the mentioned lack of a soft reset hole.
there is a program in the windows marketplace called reboot. its an app that lets you softreset your phone

here is windows market place if you dont have it.

Attachment 56575

robj19 01-22-2010 09:36 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
i hate how the speakerphone doesnt always activate when the phone is place on its face like its supposed to! One minute its working great the next its not working at all.
Also when you are using the messaging in TF it doesn't sort the conversation correctly. It puts all your responses together and the other persons respondses together. It doesnt sort it like a conversation should be sorted. Oh and the camera thing is aggravating as well.

Deimoss 01-22-2010 06:00 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrianh85 (Post 1508606)
im glad its not capactive!! for one they are bigger battery hogs than what we have, not as accurate, and i use my nail to control my phone!! there is muti touch for our phones but its not stable yet!!
um wrong thread there buddy !! hahah

its the, "What do you Hate about the TP2" thread not the, "Hey what do I like on the TP2 that others might not like in a, "What do you HATE about the TP2??" thread

lol

freeza 01-22-2010 06:05 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I don't "hate" anything about it. However, there could be a bunch of improvements.

lazydazed 01-22-2010 06:30 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
after reading this thread BEFORE i got the tp2 everybodys complaints seemed so minor..coming from a touch pro where the d-pad was worthless anyway. and a capacitive screen on a phone this big? i'd need to put it on a desk anytime i wanted to use it.
and ive always used psShutXP or cleanRAM and theres the soft reset function.

im glad so many people have contributed to this thread because now i know that this is the perfect 1 handed phone with the benefit of having a slide out keyboard(sadly w/o a tab button, my only complaint).

jer07734 01-22-2010 07:46 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
not a hate, but i do miss the flash and the dpad of the mogul - not the original tp. also, wish it came with the htc headset like the original tp. also, just a personal pref - but wish it had the headphone jack on the top of the phone and not the bottom.

tr0s 01-22-2010 08:02 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
i hate the fact that it doesn't have:
-a 1ghz snapdragon
-no projector to watch movies
-that my screen is a wee bit bigger than the iphone
-that it's not an amoled display
-that i can't run a rom longer than 12 hours before i just "have" to try so and so's latest release
-it always burns my popcorn
-the jealous stares i get when i flip out the screen and tilt it
-if the vibrate function were just a little bit stronger it could completely replace my girlfriend
-it only takes a 32gb sdhc (c'mon htc... i'm thinking terabytes here!)

that's about it... if i think of any others i'll be sure to post. honestly though this is by far the best ppc i've ever owned (6800, 6900, 6850)

Technoob 01-22-2010 08:32 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
i hate Wm not tp2!
plzz let WM die!

tr0s 01-22-2010 09:00 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drrohit81 (Post 1510033)
i hate Wm not tp2!
plzz let WM die!
so why did you get the tp2 again? i'm sure you could get someone to trade you for a moment or hero if you want android.

hc3cuz 01-22-2010 09:39 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tr0s (Post 1509972)

-it always burns my popcorn
-the jealous stares i get when i flip out the screen and tilt it
-if the vibrate function were just a little bit stronger it could completely replace my girlfriend
:sign5:

OR78 01-22-2010 09:45 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
It just spilled my beer.....:drunken:

CnDm111 01-22-2010 11:44 PM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by robj19 (Post 1508670)
i hate how the speakerphone doesnt always activate when the phone is place on its face like its supposed to! One minute its working great the next its not working at all.
Also when you are using the messaging in TF it doesn't sort the conversation correctly. It puts all your responses together and the other persons respondses together. It doesnt sort it like a conversation should be sorted. Oh and the camera thing is aggravating as well.
thats because you didnt install the patch released by htc to fix the network issue

spcrxracer 01-23-2010 02:36 AM
Re: What do you HATE about the TP2??
 
I seriously think the only REAL thing wrong with this phone is the lack of a faster processor. I think it would perform beautifully with a faster processor... A camera flash wouldn't hurt, either.

The other details people have described seem minor design flaws... or personal problems.

My only other gripe is the "proximity sensor" that automatically turns the screen off when the phone is placed up to your face, and then turns the screen back on when the phone is taken away.

I'd like an option to turn this off because sometimes it fails me and I end up launching a bunch of programs on my phone with my face. Let the registry search begin!


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