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amw1972

12-11-2009 03:36 PM

Native HTC messaging MMS fix (collaboration)

Since I've been seeing a few "clutter" posts that suggests that people aren't exactly sure what this thead is for, let me put it simply...

This thread is a collaboration effort to find the apply a fix to the ability to send and receive MMS thru the HTC messaging client for TF3D2.5 (the version of manila from the Leo aka HD2)

The intent of this thread is NOT to disable HTC messaging...NOR is it to JUST send pics thru other means...

End state will allow TF3D2.5 users to send pictures OR other MMS by tapping on the respective icons on the messaging screen, choose the photo, HTC messaging app resizes and sends as it was intended for the LEO.

So far as I've read thru Verizon, Telus has been made to work. Folks are still racking their brains to get Sprint's working. So if you're helping please stay on topic.

Thanks!!!

mods: please change the title of this thread since I forgot to make it more specific when I opened this thread. I actually don't know how to go and update the title.

KW TP

12-11-2009 04:19 PM

Re: Native HTC messaging MMS fix (collaboration)

I'm glad someone that is talented enough to figure this out is working on it. Thanks!

silentjoker

12-11-2009 04:34 PM

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if u want help from my end im verizon pm me and we can talk

jmorton10

12-11-2009 04:42 PM

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It is very hard for me to believe that someone from here or XDA has not figured this out yet.

Of course the HTC app is so laggy with our current processors maybe it doesn't really matter..........

~John

kidmet

12-11-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by amw1972 (Post 1405669)

So...we have yet to be able to send MMS directly out from the native messaging app out of manila. When I was running R3 and R4 of Juicy's ROM...there were a couple of folks that may have been on the right track...but I'm not sure if it was ever followed up. There is really too many 'geekers here with awesome talent to NOT be able to figure this thing out...so...here is my contribution...and maybe we can lick thing once and for all...

I think a reg entry of interest is the following...

HKLM>>SOFTWARE>>Jataayu>>Messaging>>MMS>>Profile>> CDMA

in that entry...there is a key for IPAddress that is left blank...I have every other value entered much like what we have our Arcsoft is set up for...

gateway: 80
MMSCURL: http://mms.sprint.com/servlets/mms

reason why I think this is THE reg entry that matters is that when I changed the Sendlimit value from 300 to 1024....the send limit in the native HTC messaging app attachement tab changed its limit to 1000. Considering that I've entered the proper port and the url for mms...I think that IPAddress key value may have something to do with HTC messaging app sending out MMS.

Also of note, if you follow the reg entry to:

HKLM>>SOFTWARE>>Jataayu>>Messaging>>Network

there sits a key for MMSPreferredNetwork. The value is set at 1. What that value turns the mms preferred network to...I'm not sure. I'm almost certain if we find that entry is being pointed we'll be that much further to enabling MMS in the native HTC messaging.

This is all trial and error results...so pls bear with me...

Bone stock, my MMS send and receive works perfectly.

Scientific

12-11-2009 08:38 PM

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Good luck with this! :drunken:

chris1683

12-11-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kidmet (Post 1406346)

Bone stock, my MMS send and receive works perfectly.

Are you using the HTC Messaging client for MMS or Arcsoft interface? No matter what I tried as far as registry settings went, I never got the data connection to activate when sending the mms using htc messaging client.

kjhadfield

12-11-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1405812)

Of course the HTC app is so laggy with our current processors maybe it doesn't really matter..........

~John

1)only laggy if you keep save all your messages, but 4 what/why you'd do this...
2)i beg/ sure many others beg to differ... IT MATTERS 2 ME AND I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY 1!

OP... keep up what your doing, share an i'll help/try to confirm... as i'm sure many others would be greatful.

thanks

jmorton10

12-11-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kjhadfield (Post 1406526)

1)only laggy if you keep save all your messages,

That is not true at all.

I never save any messages & I certainly don't restore any after a ROM flash, but all you have to do is get into an extended conversation with one person & it will start to lag to where you want to stop in the middle & empty your inbox.

I found what it to me the perfect solution for now. I disable the HTT app & then use Vito SMS-Chat for texting (fast as hell, no lag etc)

I then use ArcSoft for MMS & i'm good to go (Juicy R3).

~John

psycho_maniac

12-12-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kidmet (Post 1406346)

Bone stock, my MMS send and receive works perfectly.

yeah are you running a rom with htc sense with the weather in the clock? if no then you WONT have this problem.

wanna know how i fix this problem? just get of stupid manila sms program. i hate it its so slow and laggy.

Yay 4 Juggs

12-12-2009 01:11 AM

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ok can you explain to me what the problem is with using sense 2.1?

japper88

12-12-2009 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Yay 4 Juggs (Post 1406988)

ok can you explain to me what the problem is with using sense 2.1?

Because it's not the newest and coolest?
Why does the new manila messaging app work with the HD2 and not the TP2? What got changed?

Yay 4 Juggs

12-12-2009 01:17 AM

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ok here is the skinny with my rom atleast...running sense 2.1 and using the htc messaging layout in texts i am able to reply with mms...once i select mms it launches the arcsoft app and allows me to insert a picture and send without issue. am i missing an htc mms layout somewhere? and...my mms messages are threaded...

japper88

12-12-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Yay 4 Juggs (Post 1407003)

I always thought the mms issue was only with Manila 2.5, since Manila 2.1 works fine, no? I've never had a problem with Manila 2.1 and mms.

Yay 4 Juggs

12-12-2009 01:28 AM

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well then upon collaboration the title of this thread should be more specific to the issue. If it's out there im sure we can fix it. I especially...once i know what the problem is.

not to mention the fact that 2.5 isnt even native for our devices so you have to expect problems regardless of the tweaks and hacks people have applied.

Yay 4 Juggs

12-12-2009 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by amw1972 (Post 1405669)

can you export the entire reg settings for the Jataayu directory and ill take a look at it please.

kjhadfield

12-12-2009 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Yay 4 Juggs (Post 1407037)

can you export the entire reg settings for the Jataayu directory and ill take a look at it please.

glad 2, and thanks even for just taking a look. the lag is, i believe, always gonna be there as 2.5 isnt 4 the tp2 but if we could send mms straight from htc that would be moving forward. give me a sec and ill upload. im gonna hard reset so its fresh.

edit: so rom is juicyR6, juicy did disable htc messaging. i installed a cabbed up htc messaging, but its an older version. i didnt change any settings or the .reg files and i also zipped the cab i used to install in case you want to look inside. thanks 4 looking an the help

IcyStorm

12-12-2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Yay 4 Juggs (Post 1406988)

ok can you explain to me what the problem is with using sense 2.1?

Honestly, I would use Sense 2.1 if the text were smaller. It really, really bothers me, and I love Sense 2.5's font sizes. I don't know if they're fixable by themes or anything though.

I just use SPB Mobile 3.5 now >_>

silentjoker

12-12-2009 12:18 PM

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OK i have gotten some progress myself. I got it to connect to the net when you send. But now i get a PPP error bad password and username. Im still messing with stuff. But at least now it tries to send

update:::

connects to network now but fails after awhile. So we know its connecting to net it must be a server setting now. Either its timing out or wrong settings.

p-slim

12-12-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by japper88 (Post 1406996)

Because it's not the newest and coolest?
Why does the new manila messaging app work with the HD2 and not the TP2? What got changed?

i dont know, but i can think of a couple reasons it works on the hd2 and not the tp2. 1 reason could be processor. i dont know if youve used that app but trust me its not meant to be that slow, a lack of a snapdragon processor could be 1 reason. another could be that specific client is currently made to work on overseas mms networks since it hasnt officially been ported over yet, or the simple and best answer is that we are all working on a program that was created for another phone and network all together and it will work when htc creates and app for us. you guys are all wasting your time, when htc gives us a new messaging client it might work, but with this current one its not going to happen, feel free to do all your time wasting as it will not work and it doesnt affect me but i thought i would at least try and save you some free time.

silentjoker

12-12-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1407652)

well good input but you are wrong. I actually fixed mine today and it works flawlessly with sms and mms now. Verizon! Its not a matter of waiting on another company. Its finding the settings. You were right on one aspect and that is some registry settings were for gsm and needed changed to cdma to work better.

right now im trying to narrow down what exact changes are needed and ill post them. I will reflash and do those changes and make sure they work then you will see.

jmorton10

12-12-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by silentjoker (Post 1408082)

I actually fixed mine today and it works flawlessly with sms and mms now. Verizon! .

Well, post the changes so I can try them myself (I'm on Verizon)

~John

silentjoker

12-12-2009 05:17 PM

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im trying to find out what one did it there was so many i did.

kjhadfield

12-12-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1407652)

looking @ your post count n thanks n sign up date, im sure you have done great things or helped out greatly. w/ saying that, there is no need to be a nay-sayer! im sure you been around long enough to see things done that were "impossible", am i right? so honestly anything can be done w/ the right knowledge and time.

yes i believe the lag will never be fixed as we dont have the 'snapdragon' but as far as the 'send and recieve' of mms, i believe can be fixed w/ time an the right settings

kjhadfield

12-12-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by silentjoker (Post 1408082)

when you say fixed you were able to send n confirm sent threw htc? cause i dont think recieve is that big a problem as in juicy r5 i could recieve and open full pic in htc messsging. all i did 4 that was set my settings in the htc messaging menu to 80, http://mms.sprintpcs.com, 1024kb and wap to none.

kjhadfield

12-12-2009 05:31 PM

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when i would try 2 send threw htc messaging it would act like it was trying to send but i think time out but like the 1st post i think that cause the send settings are using gsm not cdma

p-slim

12-12-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by silentjoker (Post 1408082)

well i hope i'm wrong because htc messaging is a nice add on but honestly i'm pretty sure i'm right. as i was telling the op in another thread i have spent countless hours and sleepless nights trying to figure this out and changing all of the messaging settings. Nothing has worked and i've exhausted all avenues. i'm trying to save you all the headache but i'm almost positive we will have to wait for htc to create this for a cdma product 1st.

brol1k

12-12-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1408224)

Just let thee guys TRY and work it, if they get it working salute if not then ok to bad it sucks...

silentjoker

12-12-2009 06:28 PM

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if u guys can turn you logs on and post what it says might help shed light for you guys also. Turn mms loggin on and clear the logs then try and send and post that log and if u cannot recive clear logs and post the recivece logs.

Is this what you verizon and sprint logs say towards the bottom?

[12/12/2009 17:25:00] CSendRecv::SendMMS: eResponseStatus [4] eResponseStatus [E_RESP_ERR_SENDING_ADDR_UNRESOLVED]

amw1972

12-14-2009 07:38 PM

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will post my logs when I get home...at work and can't post...can however email direct to you

jmorton10

12-14-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by silentjoker (Post 1408100)

im trying to find out what one did it there was so many i did.

There aren't that many things it's even possible to change...

What mods did you make other than alter the ArcSoft server settings??

When I tried 80, 1024 & none mine refused to send an MMS at all, the none had to be reset to 2.0 to get it working again..........

~John

chris1683

12-14-2009 09:31 PM

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I remember someone saying that they had gotten the data arrows to activate like it was attempting to send mms (but then people never received it). Does anyone know what these settings/registry edits were?

OR78	12-14-2009 10:16 PM

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I don't see how any of these reg edits will fix the issues that this messaging app has. I salute everyones efforts but none of these ideas have worked for other people. I hope that this is resolved though because as of right now the HTC SMS service sucks.

silentjoker

12-14-2009 10:20 PM

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NO FLAMERS PLEASE..
The purpose of this is to solve a problem for us atm. If it works and last 1 month at least for that month we could enjoy!

This will help us out.
First you gotta start somewhere. Process of elimination!

1- Disable your data conection!
2- Put your server settings to what you think are your settings. Use the HTC messaging program menus to get to them.
3- Turn loggin on Registry( ....Jataayu/MMS/SP/Loggin 1 )
4- Create a folder called ErrorRep in the root of your device. If it is already there remove all files from it.
5- Send a mms to yourself! Do not cancel if it takes some time to fail.
6- After it fails or completes Recieve a MMS from someone and download it.
7- Check the ErrorRep folder and zip it up and upload it to here. It should contain like 5 files.

This will let us know what the server is telling your phone a error is.

Then let us trouble shoot! Also if you change any server settings clear the logs before you send and recieve and upload a renamed zip.

If your net doesnt try and connect then say that.

OR78	12-14-2009 10:36 PM

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Since I was just implied as a flamer I will add my info. HTC was notified about this issue and they offered anyone that wished to debug their phone, the software needed to log errors. All you have to do is contact them via their website and request these debug apps regaurding the HTC messaging service.

On another note a tech assisted me with my problems on this app and advised me to change the send count from 3 to 5. In doing this it reselved alot of the connection issues. Its a start on their end. JUST MY 2 Cents.

There, does that help?

silentjoker

12-14-2009 11:13 PM

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well actually all you need to do is add the line in registry to load the ActiveProfileCDMA 000 registry in next to the gsm one and it fixes the network connectivity problem.

Thats the actuall fix! Dunno why they didnt tell u that.

Jmz	12-14-2009 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by japper88 (Post 1406996)

Because it's not the newest and coolest?
Why does the new manila messaging app work with the HD2 and not the TP2? What got changed?

That the HD2 is GSM and the TP2 we are working on is CDMA.

Other than that, right now it will not work with sprint until we have the exact IP address needed. Plain and simple. Me, calkulin, indagroove, and quite a few other mainstream cooks worked on this a lot. We got to the point of getting a send confirmation but the recipient never receives the mms. So, I came up with the fix a long time ago to change one reg key and install arcsoft. Which means you can send sms through htc but when you find a picture to send and click mms it goes through arcsoft automatically. HTC messaging client ignores the mms altogether.

Also, we tried pinging the different mms servers for sprint and trying those IP addresses also. Which didn't work.

I am not sure about other carriers but I think calkulin's kitchen has the right settings for verizon.

But completely hats off to you if you get the right IP address for sprint.

DV8	12-14-2009 11:59 PM

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Then can Calkulin possibly give us the verizon ip so that we can try it on other roms??? Please??? and Thank You......lol

ziggy471

12-15-2009 11:17 AM

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The Verizon IP is 62.215.195.152.

For me everything somewhat works, but it's a pain in the you know what.

For Sending, use 'My ISP' and WAP 2.0.

For Receiving, you have to set WAP to none.

Again, this is a pain, because you have to keep changing it back and forth. Most likely there's a reg key somewhere that can set this, or have a different server for send then receive. As for the test messages, I'm using the online sending from MyVZW page. I'll keep playing with it today, since I'm just working on imaging machines, not a lot of interaction required.

EDIT: Almost forgot, I got most of this info from Boushh in his post in the EnergyROM thread:
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showt...=86489&page=97

Z

silentjoker

12-15-2009 11:27 AM

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well i know the reason why you cant ping the mms servers its casue it blocks public access. I know this froma tech from vzw.

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