HTC Touch HD Pro leaked!!!!!

[Chef Ben]

This is the most cracked out conspiracy theory I've ever read. Absolutely ridiculous.

1) You honestly think AT&T has ANY pull on HTC? Stop thinking in domestic terms...think in worldwide terms.

2) Good job, G1 is open source. So you honestly think HTC has a strong campaign behind it? Especially since the Diamond and Touch Pro are about to be released carrier-wide in the states...coupled with the Touch HD release worldwide?!?! Honestly.

3) What kind of nonsense is that? You think HTC is just gonna roll over and give in to another product dominating the market? Business 101. They see the iPhone selling like crazy...of course they're are gonna release a competitive product!

Who are "a lot of us" that are willing to hold out for the Touch HD? I challenge you to find 100 people on this forum that are willing to pass up the Diamond in favor of the Touch HD. Now take that number and apply to the real world. No one even knows about the Sprint/Telus Diamond...much less the Touch Pro. Yet you think the Touch HD will kill all those sales.

Don't mean to be offensive or come off as if I'm flaming...I'm just putting it in real world terms as best I can.

[reekolu]

I would have held off buying a Diamond for a Touch HD...the only reason I bought a Diamond was because of post like these suggesting it would'nt be released in the US...that's 1 and counting...

[namyboyz44]

im holding off on the touch pro now as well. waiting for whatever to come next after seeing the touch hd. i still think its a marketing scheme and will be release in the beginning of next year.

[jds580s]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

Here's mine, HD will kill a lot of sales of other phones especially those phones that a carrier like sprint,that spends a lot of money on investment for Diamond and touch pro. Just right now, a lot of us are willing to hold out on buying the diamond or Touch pro for this phone. It will be a huge loss for a carrier. We really don't know at this point. maybe they are just saying that it will not come to the U.S. so nobody will be holding back on buying the diamond and touch pro. It's a business strategy U know
So whatchu think guys?

It's a good thought but my personal guess is that it's not that either. The diamond and pro came out in European and Asian markets first too. If HTC thought such a quick release of the HD would hurt sales they might have chosen to not put it out anywhere. From their twitter posts, they consider it a different class of phone than the diamond and pro. The HD is their media phone, the pro is the business/professional phone, and the diamond is... well I'm not sure how they would classify it. Maybe more of a general mass appeal phone.

Releasing a phone in the US costs HTC a load of money. It's usually a hefty hardware redesign, both internal and external as seen with the sprint/verizon diamond and pro. That cost probablly gets pa ssed onto the carriers and customers eventually though. We know they started working with sprint on the pro as early as April from that leaked document, and likely a good amount of time before it was leaked too.

And from the US carriers perspective some suggested they would hold off on the HD and release it later so they don't compete with other phones. I could understand that if they had an exclusive it, but in the US market it's almost always a race to see who releases first. They rarely hold back phones that will not be exclusively released because the competition may choose not to wait. If Verizon came out with the HD first you can bet that people interested in it would leave sprint to get the device they want. (or vice versa)

I may be wrong, but my guess is that HTC didn't think the US demand for the HD would be worth all the time and money required for a launch in the US. Hopefully the twitter response and blog coverage will sway them to change their minds or fast track another device for our market.

[Torx]

sad news, US. we looked into it- by the time we could bring Touch HD to the states, it would be old news. we do have other cool stuff coming
43 minutes ago from web

im sure another 2.8" VGA screen with no headphone jack, dongle only CRAP phone
were americans!! we consume more than the average human, give us what we want!!

[TreyBeno]

Plain and simple it boils down to the damn diamond. If it were not for the Diamond we would probably see this phone. IF THIS WAS RELEASED THEY WOULD NOT SELL ANOTHER DIAMOND!. Its the same thing with a bigger screen and like all Americans we think bigger is always better so everyone will pick the HD. It would have to have been within 50 bucks of each other so price would not have been the issue. It would be like the carriers having thrown away all development money spent on the Diamond. Plus people like us would demand a keyboard version too!

[Nagrom Nniuq]

Originally Posted by Chef Ben

This is the most cracked out conspiracy theory I've ever read. Absolutely ridiculous.

1) You honestly think AT&T has ANY pull on HTC? Stop thinking in domestic terms...think in worldwide terms.

Ya, that point didn't make any sense.

Originally Posted by Chef Ben

2) Good job, G1 is open source. So you honestly think HTC has a strong campaign behind it? Especially since the Diamond and Touch Pro are about to be released carrier-wide in the states...coupled with the Touch HD release worldwide?!?! Honestly.

This is more because only 1 carrier is having it for now. Android is huge, regardless of whether YOU like it or not. I don't like it at all but a massive amount of people do. Also, the HD is NOT going to be released worldwide. Only in select markets and, at least the Diamond, IS NOT going to be released carrier wide (if by that you mean all carriers).

Originally Posted by Chef Ben

3) What kind of nonsense is that? You think HTC is just gonna roll over and give in to another product dominating the market? Business 101. They see the iPhone selling like crazy...of course they're are gonna release a competitive product!

That is correct.

Originally Posted by Chef Ben

Who are "a lot of us" that are willing to hold out for the Touch HD? I challenge you to find 100 people on this forum that are willing to pass up the Diamond in favor of the Touch HD. Now take that number and apply to the real world. No one even knows about the Sprint/Telus Diamond...much less the Touch Pro. Yet you think the Touch HD will kill all those sales.

I know of at least 100 people across several message boards that claim to be holding off on the Diamond AND the Pro for something better. In fact there was so much negative backlash to HTC not releasing the HD in the US, they released an official statement (not twitter talk) to Endgadget regarding it. WTH do you mean no one even knows about the Sprint/Telus Diamond or Pro?

Originally Posted by Chef Ben

Don't mean to be offensive or come off as if I'm flaming...I'm just putting it in real world terms as best I can.

We understand. Just don't go extreme do do it.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by TreyBeno

Plain and simple it boils down to the damn diamond. If it were not for the Diamond we would probably see this phone. IF THIS WAS RELEASED THEY WOULD NOT SELL ANOTHER DIAMOND!. Its the same thing with a bigger screen and like all Americans we think bigger is always better so everyone will pick the HD. It would have to have been within 50 bucks of each other so price would not have been the issue. It would be like the carriers having thrown away all development money spent on the Diamond. Plus people like us would demand a keyboard version too!

Totally. The only people that will buy the Diamond while waiting for the HD is the people that can get the Diamond for free or almost free. But people with upgrade discount will not use it for the Diamond. They will use that upgrade discount on the HD because i'm sure, it's gonna be pricey.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by Chef Ben

This is the most cracked out conspiracy theory I've ever read. Absolutely ridiculous.

1) You honestly think AT&T has ANY pull on HTC? Stop thinking in domestic terms...think in worldwide terms.

2) Good job, G1 is open source. So you honestly think HTC has a strong campaign behind it? Especially since the Diamond and Touch Pro are about to be released carrier-wide in the states...coupled with the Touch HD release worldwide?!?! Honestly.

3) What kind of nonsense is that? You think HTC is just gonna roll over and give in to another product dominating the market? Business 101. They see the iPhone selling like crazy...of course they're are gonna release a competitive product!

Who are "a lot of us" that are willing to hold out for the Touch HD? I challenge you to find 100 people on this forum that are willing to pass up the Diamond in favor of the Touch HD. Now take that number and apply to the real world. No one even knows about the Sprint/Telus Diamond...much less the Touch Pro. Yet you think the Touch HD will kill all those sales.

Don't mean to be offensive or come off as if I'm flaming...I'm just putting it in real world terms as best I can.

I don't need to find 100 people to prove it. They are already here telling U that they will hold out for the HD if it's coming.
How about I give U a challenge. Find 100 people that will still buy the diamond even if they know that the HD is coming to their carrier.

ur business 101 is absolutely a no no. LMAO. u try that strategy on ur business, U will drop like hot potato. When u have a business, U don't wanna compete. U wanna dominate the game. business hates competition.Only consumer likes competition because prices go lower. To dominate the game, U should think of something that nobody has done before. then U get everybody. if ur entering the market that is been dominated by a certain product, Expect that U will never get a hundred percent. U will only get a part of the whole sales. People that ditch the dominating product, Those are the only people that will buy to U. U will end up like instinct. instinct is already doomed way before it's release. Why? because it's the same time iphone 3g will be released. case and point. build a business selling sports shoe. see how NIKE murder ur business. LOL

[jethro_static]

reading about the whole issue here. I am thinking of a new theory. The 4 juggernaut in the U.S. Sprint,Verizon,T-mo and At&t. Looks like none of them will allow the HD to come in. why?

Sprint- will compromise the sales of some of their phones esp. The Diamond.touch pro will not be affected that much coz of the keyboard that businessmen needs. But will still take an effect on sales.

Verizon- If sprints Diamond will be compromised, their crippled Diamond will be murdered. Plus the fact that they have exclusivity with the BB storm. They cannot gamble with the HD. If U don't know, Verizon made a deal with RIM for Storm's exclusivity. They have to sell at least 6 million handsets. If they don't make that quota, RIM will give it to other carriers too.

T-mo- ohh their pride and joy. G1 sales will be compromised.

At&t- Their beloved Iphone. Not that the sales will go down, Obvioulsy they sold a lot already, The fact that every iphone3g they sold, comes with 2 year contract just last july. So who can buy an HD on a full price without the leverage of 2 year contract.

Come to think of it, U.S. jaggernaut did not show HTC love for the HD that is why there is no plan on coming here. In other words, U.S. carriers did not show interest on the handset.
this is all an speculation guys. Don't need to get nasty here.

The fact that HTC's reason is "by the time we could bring Touch HD to the states, it would be old news". meaning that the time they convert the handset to be operable to the U.S., it will not be advanced anymore. LOL. makes me think 2 things.
1st, if they say that the time they convert it there is already something better. What is that something better? hmmmm. people thought that it will be here by summer 2009 based on how it supposed t be. Q2 09 is tegra's expected release. is that what they mean?

2nd, Why they say by the timeit comes here bla bla bla. it's always been like that. GSM 1st then cdma after few months. That is not new. that reason is really odd.well. whatever the outcome is. we just play the waiting game.